Comments on: The games people play

The games people play

letourneau — Wed, 18 Feb 2004 05:41:05 -0800

Perhaps it says something about the intellectual sophistication of ancient cultures that some of the most entertaining games in existence are thousands of years old: backgammon, Go, mancala... The now-ubiquitous chess is a relative newcomer, dating back merely 1400 years. One wonders whether Boggle or Monopoly will withstand the test of time so well.

By: juicyraoul

juicyraoul — Wed, 18 Feb 2004 05:45:42 -0800

I figure in 1400 years they will still be coming out with versions of Mario Kart.

By: kenaman

kenaman — Wed, 18 Feb 2004 05:53:51 -0800

Perhaps it says something about the intellectual sophistication of ancient cultures that some of the most entertaining games in existence are thousands of years old: Factor in all the ancient games that must have existed and are not still played and the average is probably no better than today, 'cept that some of the best ideas have been used.

By: LoopSouth

LoopSouth — Wed, 18 Feb 2004 05:57:13 -0800

I figure it has something to do with the game's simplicity. Mancala and ect are incredibly simple to setup and begin playing. They trancend languages. Something like modern games like monopoly or... mousetrap or whatever aren't.

By: maggie

maggie — Wed, 18 Feb 2004 06:03:03 -0800

Tetris will probably outlast cockroaches.

By: taumeson

taumeson — Wed, 18 Feb 2004 06:03:58 -0800

eh, i still think boggle with continue forever. its rules are simple, and it's not only for capitalist pigs.

By: RylandDotNet

RylandDotNet — Wed, 18 Feb 2004 06:25:46 -0800

Future historians will stand in awe of the longevity of Hungry Hungry Hippos.

By: Slagman

Slagman — Wed, 18 Feb 2004 07:09:50 -0800

Of course, we don't know which crappy games of the ancient failed to survive. For all we know, Parchesi and Yahtzee have been invented and lost many many times.

By: anastasiav

anastasiav — Wed, 18 Feb 2004 07:34:28 -0800

we don't know which crappy games of the ancient failed to survive. I think you'd be surprised: Really Old Games Roman Board Games The International Society for Board Game Studies Games of the Viking and Anglo-saxon age Elliott Avedon Museum & Archive of Games

By: imh

imh — Wed, 18 Feb 2004 07:48:03 -0800

For a modern classic check out The Settlers of Catan.

By: Eamon

Eamon — Wed, 18 Feb 2004 07:58:38 -0800

Even Pachisi has a history that goes back at least several centuries, Slagman. I always believed that one reason these "ancient" games are so great is because the rules have gone through centuries of refinement, and are now almost perfectly balanced. Go may be really old, for instance, but some of the scoring rules used today were developed in Japan relatively recently to make things more even.

By: freebird

freebird — Wed, 18 Feb 2004 08:39:13 -0800

all the ancient games that must have existed and are not still played Yes, this is related to the 'wanna-be actors/esses who held on to their dreams and never made it out of the food service industry' sample bias phenomenon. On the other hand, Go remains the most deeply interesting and rewarding game I have ever played. Or rather, never have time to play. Great links Anastasiav.

By: vacapinta

vacapinta — Wed, 18 Feb 2004 08:54:36 -0800

the game Hex might be a lasting candidate, invented in 1942 by John Nash and Piet Hein.

By: jearbear

jearbear — Wed, 18 Feb 2004 09:09:56 -0800

I think the key to many of these - go especially - is the simplicity. Hell, the board and pieces of go alone can be used for a plethora of other games ( gomoku being one of my favorites, as it can be played on just graph paper as 5x-5o, much like tic-tac-to). I'd also like to recommend to those who are interested in some on line turn-based go to check out dragonserver - it keeps me from bein' bored at work!

By: notsnot

notsnot — Wed, 18 Feb 2004 10:26:17 -0800

From vacapinta's link, akron looks really hard. Now I'm gonna have to dig up my Martin Gardner puzzle books that include Hex strategies...

By: evinrude

evinrude — Wed, 18 Feb 2004 12:34:01 -0800

The problem with Hex is that it has been mathematically proven that the first player can always win (i.e., there is a strategy they can follow such that no matter what the second player does, the first player will still emerge victorious.) Happily, for most size boards that strategy isn't actually known.

By: me3dia

me3dia — Wed, 18 Feb 2004 12:53:04 -0800

Yeah, my money's on Tetris. However, I'm guessing there's one game not mentioned that is the oldest of all (although probably under a different name): Charades.

By: ROU_Xenophobe

ROU_Xenophobe — Wed, 18 Feb 2004 16:10:37 -0800

The problem with Hex is that it has been mathematically proven that the first player can always win Chess is solvable by backwards induction too, and either black or white can play a strategy that always wins. But AFAIK nobody has actually run it out.