Comments on: One more voice of reason

One more voice of reason

tomcosgrave — Fri, 20 Feb 2004 09:27:56 -0800

King of Cambodia supports gay marriage, says that transvestites should be accepted by society
And here I was thinking that old patriarchs were conservative. Cambodia apparently is quite conservative when it comes to GLBT issues, but I wonder if this will change, especially as the king is well loved?

By: answergrape

answergrape — Fri, 20 Feb 2004 09:34:01 -0800

Sandoval County in New Mexico (Bernalillo) is issuing same-sex marriage licenses. The County Clerk has said they'll continue until barred by the court. Watching the San Franciscans get hitched made me want to cry, especially the older couples who'd been together for decades. I hope lots of folks take advantage of it here.

By: tcaleb

tcaleb — Fri, 20 Feb 2004 09:50:53 -0800

Chicago's mayor has also seen the light. It is about time.

By: orange swan

orange swan — Fri, 20 Feb 2004 10:01:02 -0800

No wonder he's well-loved.

By: tcaleb

tcaleb — Fri, 20 Feb 2004 10:07:43 -0800

reading older threads I see that asparagirl already mentioned the chicago news. sorry.

By: whatnot

whatnot — Fri, 20 Feb 2004 10:09:23 -0800

I remember when it was such a big deal to have a same-sex kiss on a TV show--was Roseanne the first? Now you can turn on the news and see a montage of them every half-hour or so on CNN. Every day for the past week I have come to work and checked out the photos of the happy couples. I get teary every time! What saddens me is to see the folks who are still being turned away in other parts of the country.

By: clavdivs

clavdivs — Fri, 20 Feb 2004 10:13:58 -0800

mornin Tom. And here I was thinking that old patriarchs were conservative. Cambodian patriarchs or patriarchs in general because we may need to have a new look at some the french kings... this does not surprise me and is welcomed. Remember, HM is not all that conservative hence his book 'My war with the C.I.A.' The people do love him but his sons have stirred the pot in recent and even current times. Not to say the current leader of cambodia...though, not a bad job for a KR defector.

By: jonmc

jonmc — Fri, 20 Feb 2004 10:16:08 -0800

[inevitable] Perhaps the king is a queen. [/inevitable]

By: clavdivs

clavdivs — Fri, 20 Feb 2004 10:16:50 -0800

meant to edit comment but the site keeps going off-line for a minute or three.

By: clavdivs

clavdivs — Fri, 20 Feb 2004 10:22:43 -0800

jon, you must see this movie perhaps he is a queen?, get some knowledge, then some humor, then comment.

By: orange swan

orange swan — Fri, 20 Feb 2004 10:24:39 -0800

Perhaps he's the king of queens.

By: Asparagirl

Asparagirl — Fri, 20 Feb 2004 10:39:12 -0800

Don't be sorry, tcaleb, you're just spreading the good news! And Cambodian society, like a lot of SouthEast Asian societies, has long recognized the "third" sex, a term usually applied to gay transsexual men, though sometimes women too. They're called "Katooeys" in Thailand, I think.

By: lupus_yonderboy

lupus_yonderboy — Fri, 20 Feb 2004 10:42:14 -0800

Asparagirl: Thanks for posting that; I got halfway through a longwinded post on my time in Lao and the general acceptance of Katooeys... Anyway, I second that opinion.

By: clavdivs

clavdivs — Fri, 20 Feb 2004 11:03:30 -0800

Some good stuff from the ILGA concerning Cambodia. Same-sex relationships between women and between men are legal. There are no laws or court decisions that prohibit them. There is no difference between laws governing homo- and hetero- sexual prostitution. (Juan Pablo Ordonez - May 1996) also There is not such a thing as partnership registration for anybody. Marriage registration is available for everybody. However there is only one known case of homosexual marriage, between two women, last year. "Khav Sokha and Pum Eth were married on March 12 1995, in the village of Kro Bao Ach Kok, in Kandal Province, where they are from. Sokha said in an interview to the Phnom Phen Post "The authorities thought it was strange, but they agreed to tolerate it because I have three children already (from her previous marriage). They said that if we were both single (and childless), we would not be allowed to get married because we could not produce children". So yes, it is a fully acknowledged marriage, with official approval, and there was not really any reaction to it. It was a curious event which everyone wanted to be part of, to the point that about 250 people went to the ceremony (by Bhuddist monks) and party, including high officials from the Province." (Juan Pablo Ordonez - May 1996) {from same site} though they spelled Khmer-'Khamer'

By: PigAlien

PigAlien — Fri, 20 Feb 2004 11:30:37 -0800

This is awesome! C'mon America! Let's see some more civil disobedience!

By: WolfDaddy

WolfDaddy — Fri, 20 Feb 2004 12:07:55 -0800

Are gays gonna be to the 00's (the naughties??) as hippies were to the 60's?? I've made my own views on gay marriage clear in other places, but I am all for civil disobedience ... it's better than apathy any ol' day. [...sends more flowers...]

By: fold_and_mutilate

fold_and_mutilate — Fri, 20 Feb 2004 17:03:08 -0800

Is there any particular reason that almost every fucking country on earth is becoming morally and ethically superior to the United States?