The Second Civil War
March 3, 2004 8:42 AM   Subscribe

Vermont Town votes to join New Hampshire. [link via pissresort]
posted by Stynxno (18 comments total)
 
Awesome. I hope it happens--it would set a nice precedent so that all towns that didn't like how their states were running things could rebel. PUT POWER IN THE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS! NOT THE STATE AND FEDS!! YEAAAAAAARG!!
posted by psychotic_venom at 9:08 AM on March 3, 2004


Good luck. The love affair would end just as soon as Vermont's new but geographically separated town needed services from the state. What, you need the snow removed from the interstate? We'll get right on that, honest!
posted by substrate at 9:16 AM on March 3, 2004


Looks like it would be a paperwork nightmare too.
posted by thomcatspike at 9:44 AM on March 3, 2004


They don't want the money they are sending away for their own schools; they just don't want it sent away to support the larger state community. Greed, pure and simple. If they were still willing to pay the bill and have it used locally, that'd show that they at least cared about education funding in the abstract ...
posted by luriete at 9:50 AM on March 3, 2004


Killington's been trying to secede for years -- I'd be very surprised if it ever actually happened. It would be odd, though -- a wee little bit of New Hampshire stuck in the middle of Vermont!
posted by sarcasticah at 9:51 AM on March 3, 2004


[NPR-filter]
Heard this on the radio yesterday morning. Apparently New Hampshire would need to vote them in, as well - which is considered pretty unlikely.

Why not try for some other less interesting states? Like Ohio or Arkansas? I'm sure they'd be delighted to have a little piece of ol' New England.
posted by Peter H at 10:15 AM on March 3, 2004


(insert Dean scream here)

Good luck to them I say. Way to shake up state government. Imagine if it caught on in other places. It would make the news entertaining.
Maybe neighboring states could actively start to entice border communities too. I think Brain is behind this in some way. (as in Pinky and the...)
posted by a3matrix at 10:28 AM on March 3, 2004


(insert dean scream here)

Good luck to them I say. Way to shake up state government. Imagine if it caught on in other places. It would make the news entertaining.
Maybe neighboring states could actively start to entice border communities too. I think Brain is behind this in some way. (as in Pinky and the...)
posted by a3matrix at 10:28 AM on March 3, 2004


Sorry for the DP. Thought I stopped it in time.
posted by a3matrix at 10:29 AM on March 3, 2004


"Good luck to them I say."

Why?

This is a bunch of rich people who don't want to pay their fair share. They live in an exclusive community so they think they should get special treatment. Tough cookies. They're rich, and they'll have to pay the same amount as all the other rich people in Vermont. Why are people rooting for these greedy assholes?
posted by y6y6y6 at 11:34 AM on March 3, 2004


What, you need the snow removed from the interstate? We'll get right on that, honest!

Actually, there is no interstate that goes through Killington. I drive through Killington on my way to and from work every day over Route 4. They have the best-funded public library in the entire state, at $127 per capita [our library which is one of the better libraries is only funded at $28 per capita]. I understand the issue -- taxes suck in poor communities and no matter what you do, someone is not going to be happy paying for services they don't receive -- but it's just not going to happen. Maybe the people in Killington could just move to New Hampshire, though things aren't looking that great there lately either.
posted by jessamyn at 11:36 AM on March 3, 2004


"Maybe the people in Killington could just move to New Hampshire"

Or better yet they could move to crappy neighborhoods in Vermont. Then they'd be on the receiving end of all that inequity. I'm sure that would make them much happier.
posted by y6y6y6 at 11:49 AM on March 3, 2004


As an amusing sidenote, the upper left picture on this page is the one they chose to illustrate the Killington town meeting. It's an interesting gesture + shirt color juxtaposition, hopefully accidental.
posted by jessamyn at 12:03 PM on March 3, 2004


ha, jessamyn - you also left out its caption, adding to the juxtaposition: "Charles Wise makes a point during the Killington Town Meeting"
posted by Peter H at 12:38 PM on March 3, 2004


This reminds me of the larger "giver/taker" argument made about Congressional spending. Basically, the majority of Democratic-leaning states provide more revenue to the government in taxes then they recieve in funding, wheras Republican-leaning states provide less federal taxes than they recieve in federal benefits.

It's not any sign of greed or stuff like that, merely a bit of irony in how the "tax-and-spend liberals" going away would screw over Red States more than where liberals actually live.

The biggest problem with this country is the disparity in wealth; the idea that the personal aspect of wealth should be applied to a district level would be catastrophic. If each state could/would only recieve in expenditures what it provided in revenue, you'd either be paying a cubic assload for produce or Midwestern states wouldn't have a highway system.

I'm not trying to be partisan, just using it as a bigger point: Killington is a case of the priviledged complaining about a "lack of fairness." In other words, they're only bitching because they're the givers instead of the takers. Put simply, this is how a regulated beauracracy works. Put even more simply, tough shit, Bitchy McSkisalot.
posted by XQUZYPHYR at 1:17 PM on March 3, 2004


Mike Barnicle (for what he's worth these days): Vermont vs. New Hampshire
posted by kurumi at 1:44 PM on March 3, 2004


Thank you for that link, kurumi. I used to live in Vermont. I cut across New Hampshire to get to Maine every summer, and I was always astonished by how unattractive New Hampshire was in comparison to either of its neighbors.

Vermont itself also has town meeting talks every few years about seceding from the US. It was a fun place to live, minus the mud season.
posted by swerve at 1:54 PM on March 3, 2004


They're going to New Hampshire! And they're going to Delaware! And they're going to Michigan, and Ohio, and Texas and California! Then they're going to Washington, D.C, to annex the White House! YEEEAAAAAARGH!
posted by arto at 10:33 PM on March 3, 2004


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