The Second Civil War
March 3, 2004 8:42 AM Subscribe
Good luck. The love affair would end just as soon as Vermont's new but geographically separated town needed services from the state. What, you need the snow removed from the interstate? We'll get right on that, honest!
posted by substrate at 9:16 AM on March 3, 2004
posted by substrate at 9:16 AM on March 3, 2004
Looks like it would be a paperwork nightmare too.
posted by thomcatspike at 9:44 AM on March 3, 2004
posted by thomcatspike at 9:44 AM on March 3, 2004
Killington's been trying to secede for years -- I'd be very surprised if it ever actually happened. It would be odd, though -- a wee little bit of New Hampshire stuck in the middle of Vermont!
posted by sarcasticah at 9:51 AM on March 3, 2004
posted by sarcasticah at 9:51 AM on March 3, 2004
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Heard this on the radio yesterday morning. Apparently New Hampshire would need to vote them in, as well - which is considered pretty unlikely.
Why not try for some other less interesting states? Like Ohio or Arkansas? I'm sure they'd be delighted to have a little piece of ol' New England.
posted by Peter H at 10:15 AM on March 3, 2004
Heard this on the radio yesterday morning. Apparently New Hampshire would need to vote them in, as well - which is considered pretty unlikely.
Why not try for some other less interesting states? Like Ohio or Arkansas? I'm sure they'd be delighted to have a little piece of ol' New England.
posted by Peter H at 10:15 AM on March 3, 2004
(insert Dean scream here)
Good luck to them I say. Way to shake up state government. Imagine if it caught on in other places. It would make the news entertaining.
Maybe neighboring states could actively start to entice border communities too. I think Brain is behind this in some way. (as in Pinky and the...)
posted by a3matrix at 10:28 AM on March 3, 2004
Good luck to them I say. Way to shake up state government. Imagine if it caught on in other places. It would make the news entertaining.
Maybe neighboring states could actively start to entice border communities too. I think Brain is behind this in some way. (as in Pinky and the...)
posted by a3matrix at 10:28 AM on March 3, 2004
(insert dean scream here)
Good luck to them I say. Way to shake up state government. Imagine if it caught on in other places. It would make the news entertaining.
Maybe neighboring states could actively start to entice border communities too. I think Brain is behind this in some way. (as in Pinky and the...)
posted by a3matrix at 10:28 AM on March 3, 2004
Good luck to them I say. Way to shake up state government. Imagine if it caught on in other places. It would make the news entertaining.
Maybe neighboring states could actively start to entice border communities too. I think Brain is behind this in some way. (as in Pinky and the...)
posted by a3matrix at 10:28 AM on March 3, 2004
"Good luck to them I say."
Why?
This is a bunch of rich people who don't want to pay their fair share. They live in an exclusive community so they think they should get special treatment. Tough cookies. They're rich, and they'll have to pay the same amount as all the other rich people in Vermont. Why are people rooting for these greedy assholes?
posted by y6y6y6 at 11:34 AM on March 3, 2004
Why?
This is a bunch of rich people who don't want to pay their fair share. They live in an exclusive community so they think they should get special treatment. Tough cookies. They're rich, and they'll have to pay the same amount as all the other rich people in Vermont. Why are people rooting for these greedy assholes?
posted by y6y6y6 at 11:34 AM on March 3, 2004
What, you need the snow removed from the interstate? We'll get right on that, honest!
Actually, there is no interstate that goes through Killington. I drive through Killington on my way to and from work every day over Route 4. They have the best-funded public library in the entire state, at $127 per capita [our library which is one of the better libraries is only funded at $28 per capita]. I understand the issue -- taxes suck in poor communities and no matter what you do, someone is not going to be happy paying for services they don't receive -- but it's just not going to happen. Maybe the people in Killington could just move to New Hampshire, though things aren't looking that great there lately either.
posted by jessamyn at 11:36 AM on March 3, 2004
Actually, there is no interstate that goes through Killington. I drive through Killington on my way to and from work every day over Route 4. They have the best-funded public library in the entire state, at $127 per capita [our library which is one of the better libraries is only funded at $28 per capita]. I understand the issue -- taxes suck in poor communities and no matter what you do, someone is not going to be happy paying for services they don't receive -- but it's just not going to happen. Maybe the people in Killington could just move to New Hampshire, though things aren't looking that great there lately either.
posted by jessamyn at 11:36 AM on March 3, 2004
"Maybe the people in Killington could just move to New Hampshire"
Or better yet they could move to crappy neighborhoods in Vermont. Then they'd be on the receiving end of all that inequity. I'm sure that would make them much happier.
posted by y6y6y6 at 11:49 AM on March 3, 2004
Or better yet they could move to crappy neighborhoods in Vermont. Then they'd be on the receiving end of all that inequity. I'm sure that would make them much happier.
posted by y6y6y6 at 11:49 AM on March 3, 2004
As an amusing sidenote, the upper left picture on this page is the one they chose to illustrate the Killington town meeting. It's an interesting gesture + shirt color juxtaposition, hopefully accidental.
posted by jessamyn at 12:03 PM on March 3, 2004
posted by jessamyn at 12:03 PM on March 3, 2004
ha, jessamyn - you also left out its caption, adding to the juxtaposition: "Charles Wise makes a point during the Killington Town Meeting"
posted by Peter H at 12:38 PM on March 3, 2004
posted by Peter H at 12:38 PM on March 3, 2004
Mike Barnicle (for what he's worth these days): Vermont vs. New Hampshire
posted by kurumi at 1:44 PM on March 3, 2004
posted by kurumi at 1:44 PM on March 3, 2004
Thank you for that link, kurumi. I used to live in Vermont. I cut across New Hampshire to get to Maine every summer, and I was always astonished by how unattractive New Hampshire was in comparison to either of its neighbors.
Vermont itself also has town meeting talks every few years about seceding from the US. It was a fun place to live, minus the mud season.
posted by swerve at 1:54 PM on March 3, 2004
Vermont itself also has town meeting talks every few years about seceding from the US. It was a fun place to live, minus the mud season.
posted by swerve at 1:54 PM on March 3, 2004
They're going to New Hampshire! And they're going to Delaware! And they're going to Michigan, and Ohio, and Texas and California! Then they're going to Washington, D.C, to annex the White House! YEEEAAAAAARGH!
posted by arto at 10:33 PM on March 3, 2004
posted by arto at 10:33 PM on March 3, 2004
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