Comments on: Tastes good with chocolate syrup

Tastes good with chocolate syrup

Space Coyote — Thu, 25 Mar 2004 19:34:31 -0800

By: Pink Fuzzy Bunny

Pink Fuzzy Bunny — Thu, 25 Mar 2004 19:39:38 -0800

That is just wrong on so many levels, but hey, at least it was pumped out.

By: mr_crash_davis

mr_crash_davis — Thu, 25 Mar 2004 19:39:58 -0800

It only counts if you drink it directly from the source. WHAT?

By: dg

dg — Thu, 25 Mar 2004 19:40:17 -0800

His description of the taste (pre adding chocolate) is sport-on, by the way,

By: yhbc

yhbc — Thu, 25 Mar 2004 19:40:31 -0800

-3 points for thinking of the idea in the first place, but +several infinity for thinking of adding chocolate. Great read!

By: quarantine

quarantine — Thu, 25 Mar 2004 19:41:05 -0800

Bizarre that this makes my stomach turn. My wife and I have a six-month-old, and an acquaintance asked the other day if I had tasted the milk. "Egads, no!" I thought. I didn't actually say "Egads", as that would also have been bizarre.

By: dg

dg — Thu, 25 Mar 2004 19:41:42 -0800

Um, I mean spot-on, of course

By: mr_crash_davis

mr_crash_davis — Thu, 25 Mar 2004 19:44:26 -0800

*cue beth with her story about trying to make pudding*

By: shepd

shepd — Thu, 25 Mar 2004 19:45:14 -0800

I'd go for a pair of 1 gallon canteens myself! HOO YEA!

By: abcde

abcde — Thu, 25 Mar 2004 19:50:56 -0800

So breast milk... with chocolate syrup... tastes like Yoo-Hoo. Yet another innovation in science.

By: dejah420

dejah420 — Thu, 25 Mar 2004 19:57:29 -0800

My god that's funny. I had no idea guys had hang ups about breast milk. Fear me and my awesome lactating power!

By: psmealey

psmealey — Thu, 25 Mar 2004 20:00:11 -0800

Yeah, I don't get why people are squeamish about breast milk either. Don't get me wrong, I'm pretty grossed out by it too, I just don't understand why.

By: dwivian

dwivian — Thu, 25 Mar 2004 20:04:06 -0800

I have no fear of lactating women, as I have three children, and a wife that overproduced. It was kinda weird watching her pump using the machine, or just go stand in the shower and relieve the pressure, though. Not something to inspire fear. Well, not until I moo'd at her. No sharp objects nearby, or I'd not be here now....

By: horsewithnoname

horsewithnoname — Thu, 25 Mar 2004 20:06:47 -0800

pshaw. Wait til you've tried placenta. Now that's an experience I'll never forget.

By: orange swan

orange swan — Thu, 25 Mar 2004 20:08:34 -0800

Perhaps because it seems like "body fluid", most varieties of which one would not normally drink? Funny - this made me think of the closing paragraphs of the Grapes of Wrath, which when I read them at the age of sixteen first shocked and then moved me inexpressibly.

By: 4easypayments

4easypayments — Thu, 25 Mar 2004 20:10:25 -0800

Bodily excretions combined with a slight whiff of cannibalism. What's not to like?

By: amberglow

amberglow — Thu, 25 Mar 2004 20:12:03 -0800

let's Ask the Experts. (every new father i've ever known has tasted it--most people are curious about it, i think.)

By: wendell

wendell — Thu, 25 Mar 2004 20:12:20 -0800

What's bad about breast milk? It's warm, it's not pasteurized and if it comes from someone you've had sex with, there are mental connections that are just illogical enough to creep out the average male.

By: abcde

abcde — Thu, 25 Mar 2004 20:18:25 -0800

I, as a male, am not averse to the idea of drinking breast milk. I wouldn't seek it out, but it's not an offensive idea. Well, actually, a shot glass of it would be, but smaller doses, nah :P

By: Nelson

Nelson — Thu, 25 Mar 2004 20:23:09 -0800

It tastes like chicken.

By: i_am_joe's_spleen

i_am_joe's_spleen — Thu, 25 Mar 2004 20:28:37 -0800

It is with some sadness that I must tell you that some people (particularly in the north of England) think that Scotch and milk is an acceptable drink for adults. However, such is the case, and so I was once told a mildly amusing story by a friend involving his breastfeeding wife, a jug in the fridge, and the drunken poker buddies pouring it in their whisky by mistake. And yeah, what dg and amberglow said.

By: stavrosthewonderchicken

stavrosthewonderchicken — Thu, 25 Mar 2004 20:55:54 -0800

Fear me and my awesome lactating power! *whimpers* I'd never really thought about it before, but now that I have, I think I'd be fine trying a sip from a cup or something, but directly from the source would make me feela little squirmy. Not sure why. I'd still give it a go, though. Interesting to probe your own boundaries and try to find the point at which one starts to go 'yuck'. The problem might be when some people discover that they just don't have any, though.

By: ashbury

ashbury — Thu, 25 Mar 2004 21:16:40 -0800

I think I'd be fine trying a sip from a cup or something, but directly from the source would make me feela little squirmy. Maybe the fear of coming across as being a baby might make you (or me) a little squirmy. Nobody needs their significant other to take up a mothering role in such a, well...mothering manner, do they? Do they? Now, on the other hand, turning it all into sexual fun is a different story, unless the idea suddenly turns into some sort of Oedipal morality play and psychological mumbo jumbo becomes the order of the day and you start questioning your sanity and what was mother really doing that time in her walk in closet and why were you wearing her bra and nothing else and yeah, it wouldn't be so bad if it only happened once but it actually happened a lot more than once and you enjoyed it but you really didn't but actually, you did, you sick little pervert. Um, yeah, anyway, breast milk from the source could possibly make a person squeamish.

By: Steve_at_Linnwood

Steve_at_Linnwood — Thu, 25 Mar 2004 21:37:37 -0800

Nippletini Genius!

By: anastasiav

anastasiav — Thu, 25 Mar 2004 22:41:30 -0800

?? Why is this a big deal ?? I'd bet (or at least hope) that a significant number of you have already drunk deeply of human milk at some (much earlier) point in your life.... Or, put another way, why are so many people getting gicked out at a food they would, in fact, prefer to serve to their newborn child?

By: anastasiav

anastasiav — Thu, 25 Mar 2004 22:44:45 -0800

Wait til you've tried placenta. Now that's an experience I'll never forget. Placenta Recipes

By: arse_hat

arse_hat — Thu, 25 Mar 2004 22:48:29 -0800

Don’t really see the big deal but I have only had it direct from the source. Does seem a bit odd to drink it from a glass though.

By: greasepig

greasepig — Thu, 25 Mar 2004 23:06:52 -0800

anastasiav, that's one of the most disturbing things I've ever seen.

By: dg

dg — Thu, 25 Mar 2004 23:12:45 -0800

why are so many people getting gicked out at a food they would, in fact, prefer to serve to their newborn child? I suspect that it is not so much the food itself, but a fear of connecting one of the most beautiful things nature has created (breast-feeding) with one of the other beautiful things nature has created (breasts as an object of sexual desire and drool). Either one of these is fine in isolation, but men like to keep the two functions separate in their minds and any suggestion of combining the two makes this difficult.

By: spazzm

spazzm — Thu, 25 Mar 2004 23:25:20 -0800

Here's a thought: Adult male aversion to breast milk has evolved to ensure that breast milk reaches their intended consumer, i.e. infants.

By: wigu

wigu — Thu, 25 Mar 2004 23:27:28 -0800

Adult male aversion to breast milk has evolved to ensure that breast milk reaches their intended consumer, i.e. infants. Nuh-uh, it doesn't say that in the Bible.

By: precocious

precocious — Fri, 26 Mar 2004 00:16:12 -0800

Speaking as a woman who lactated, breast milk freaked -me- out. Imagine, living all of your life with perfectly leakless breasts, and then one day, they sprout fountains of milk. Breast pads, accidents that left my shirts and the bed soaking wet, it was not a pleasant experience. Despite the contingent of people yammering about how, if I truly loved my child, I'd breast feed her, I switched to formula. I think the guilt of statements like that from family, friends, and hospital staff are designed to get a female over and past the sheer freakiness of sprouting never ending fountains of milk from her chest. In the realm of ejaculations and where to eject them from, men really got the better end of the bargain. uhm so yeah, I myself have tasted it and was repulsed. I suppose the main difference is that I was *raised* on milk from cow teats, under the near-daily assumption that it's where the milk is supposed to come from. Only during the occasional sex-ed class did they point out it'd be possibly coming from mine one day. They really should prepare us better. ...Also, weird sweet taste to it. Chocolate. Urgh, god.

By: spazzm

spazzm — Fri, 26 Mar 2004 00:57:52 -0800

That's pretty funy, precocious.

By: scarabic

scarabic — Fri, 26 Mar 2004 01:50:40 -0800

What gets me is the fact that mother's milk grosses us out, but cow's milk, now that's yummy stuff. Living with my vegan gf for a year and a half has begun to undo some of my long-settled comfort in chowing down on animal parts and fluids. It's all a matter of not thinking about it, and it's pretty ingrained, from an early age. We all enjoy a little cream in the coffee and think nothing of it, but anyone here who actually gets down on their knees and takes it out of a cow's udder gets a six pack on me. Whew. oh, and please provide pictures, and be sure to wear only pink sequined tighty-whiteys, cowboy boots, and a ten-gallon hat.

By: biffa

biffa — Fri, 26 Mar 2004 02:44:09 -0800

This reminds me of the best problem page letter I ever saw. A mother wrote in to say that her 7-year old son was off to cub scout camp for a week but that she was unsure what to do to feed him as he was still being breastfed.

By: dabitch

dabitch — Fri, 26 Mar 2004 03:03:29 -0800

spazzms theory sounds very plausable. dwivian you nutter! you moo'd at her? heh!

By: asok

asok — Fri, 26 Mar 2004 03:48:21 -0800

Human breast milk is obviously a very healthy alternative to cows milk. It is also an 'allowed' food for vegans if it is produced with the mother's consent. Some women produce more milk than one child can consume at times, this leaves the option of using the excess milk of throwing it away. Wet nurse anyone? The process of extracting and consuming cows milk parasitically is far more disturbing, unless one is enured to it via the accepted societal norms of our *somewhat perverse* society. Of course the cows also gain something from the symbiotic relationship, being one of the few species whose numbers are increasing rather than decreasing.

By: yoga

yoga — Fri, 26 Mar 2004 04:09:54 -0800

Applying the logic of consumption of bodily fluids to the spit vs swallow scenario, they both *totally* gross me out. As for human breast milk, never tried it, but it would seem a matter of psychology more than anything else. Like adding bugs to your diet.

By: soundofsuburbia

soundofsuburbia — Fri, 26 Mar 2004 04:14:13 -0800

Breast feeding is not just for women anymore, though...

By: tommasz

tommasz — Fri, 26 Mar 2004 05:04:12 -0800

Let me tell you, it makes lousy coffee creamer.

By: SpaceCadet

SpaceCadet — Fri, 26 Mar 2004 05:30:59 -0800

Won't somebody think of the children! Get to the back of the queue, adults.

By: amberglow

amberglow — Fri, 26 Mar 2004 05:46:06 -0800

Despite the contingent of people yammering about how, if I truly loved my child, I'd breast feed her, I switched to formula. They say that it's only the colostrum that's really most important to the newborn anyway. (biased link there, but i think the facts are true.) It's so funny how public opinion has swung over toward breastfeeding--most of us weren't even breastfed ourselves as infants. And so many women have to go back to work way before they've finished breastfeeding, given how short maternity leaves are.

By: LowDog

LowDog — Fri, 26 Mar 2004 06:03:47 -0800

I was *raised* on milk from cow teats Chilled, lactated liquid, from fur-bearing, hoofed mammals - yum yum!

By: Danf

Danf — Fri, 26 Mar 2004 06:45:19 -0800

I am amazed she was able to pump so MUCH. . . I have tried it from 3 different women. . .one of them the mother of my child. . .but only in small amounts. I wonder how well it would foam. . . that would truly be the new frontier with this. . .a breast milk latte. . .

By: Secret Life of Gravy

Secret Life of Gravy — Fri, 26 Mar 2004 06:58:05 -0800

What disturbed me the most about the original post was the fact the guy was drinking expressed milk. Milk that his wife pumped out for his son's future consumption. Now, I don't know about his wife, but pumping was a long, agonizing process for me (cheap pump) and if some adult had come along and casually sipped it as an experiment I would have gone ballistic. Drink all the on-tap stuff you want, but leave the bottled stuff alone!

By: precocious

precocious — Fri, 26 Mar 2004 07:01:34 -0800

LowDog>> I especially love a glass of it in the morning, with my processed pig flesh and unfertilized chicken embryos. Mm mm m. amber>> while I was recuperating from three days of an agonizing "induced labor," these women came around and all but bullied me into breast feeding. They were, to put it kindly, the PETA-meets-NRA of breastfeeding. I believe they were representatives of that group there. That said, they didn't point out that the first few days, maybe weeks, are perhaps the best. Even so, I managed to stick it out for close to a month before the constant pain and discomfort (and lingering freaked-out-ness) saw me switch over. scarabic>> point being that many of us weren't breast-fed, many of us weren't constantly around someone who breast-fed, and many of us will never have milk-filled tits. It's being touted as natural (thus, we shouldn't be disturbed by it), but surely by any statistics, cows are getting milked more than mothers. To be honest, I'd rather have a parasitic relationship with a cow than another lactating human being. If, for some inexplicable reason, our sole source of milk suddenly became other women, I'd go soy and never turn back. Danf>> Hate to say it son, but you unnerve me.

By: Tenuki

Tenuki — Fri, 26 Mar 2004 07:05:58 -0800

Now someone just needs to make some cheese.

By: LowDog

LowDog — Fri, 26 Mar 2004 07:21:31 -0800

I wonder how well it would foam. . . that would truly be the new frontier with this. . .a breast milk latte. . . I can't believe it's not... Cool Whip!

By: kgasmart

kgasmart — Fri, 26 Mar 2004 07:33:48 -0800

My brother, ah, accidentally tasted breast milk from the woman he was dating, who happened to have a one-year-old. He now calls her the Milkmaid.

By: whatnot

whatnot — Fri, 26 Mar 2004 07:43:03 -0800

... pumping was a long, agonizing process for me (cheap pump) and if some adult had come along and casually sipped it as an experiment I would have gone ballistic. The new double-pumps are awesome and easy. Just hook everything up, turn it on, and read for a few minutes or something. One of my girlfriends had half of her freezer devoted to little storage bags of expressed milk. I know her hubby had some--she probably did have enough on hand to make cheese! ... these women came around and all but bullied me into breast feeding I am sorry that you had such a bad experience. I think people get militant because of the things some of the formula companies do to push their product (you probably received a free diaper bag or something full of formula samples during your stay in the hospital, right? I find that type of marketing even more offensive than the militant breastfeeding advocates.) Dooce had an entry about breastfeeding and the boobification of one's life just a few days ago.

By: Cyrano

Cyrano — Fri, 26 Mar 2004 09:21:49 -0800

When I worked as a bartender one of the lady bartenders was lactating and kept bags of her milk in the fridge. It was all I could do not to start making "special" white Russians.

By: five fresh fish

five fresh fish — Fri, 26 Mar 2004 09:54:23 -0800

Every study on breast-feeding has, I believe, shown that breast-fed children are healthier, develop quicker, and perform better than formula-fed children. I do not believe there are any reputable studies that show otherwise. As an adult, I find milk -- human or cow -- is disgusting at the best of times.

By: beth

beth — Fri, 26 Mar 2004 10:11:34 -0800

The reason why some people are "militant" about breastfeeding is that, well, to sum it up bluntly, formula-fed children are sick more, and die more. This is more pronounced in the third world, but even here in America this is true. (Oh yeah, they also have lower IQs, if you care about such things) Breastmilk is amazingly evolved to meet a baby's needs, and processed cow's milk (or soy "milk") + additives in a powder just doesn't really compare. I mean, it's better than letting the kid starve, but that's about it. I honestly cannot comprehend how a mother who knows that breastfeeding is the best thing possible for her baby can decide to feed something nowhere near as good. I guess they rationalize it somehow, and many paint breastfeeding supporters as "bullies" to bolster their position. Often, sadly, people give up breastfeeding because of difficulties that could have been resolved with a good lactation consultant or help from La Leche League. Lactating was one of the most enjoyable experiences of my life (even though I had to work through some serious difficulties and pain at first). Nothing can beat the closeness and contentment, and for a lazy person like me, being able to roll over in the middle of the night and feed my baby without hardly having to move was great. I pumped for a full year, and nursed my daughter til she was almost two. Let me tell you, mighty boobie can calm a crying toddler better than anything else. And when they're old enough to be running around bonking into things, it typically takes just a few seconds of nursing to make them right as rain. I haven't officially lactated for three years, but I can still produce a few drops of milk. I hope when I have grandchildren that I will be able to nurse them. I am a person who probably would be dead if she hadn't been breastfed, btw. I had viral pneumonia as a baby, and I am sure the antibodies and other immune system boosters my mother gave me helped me fight it. I feel sad for all the kids who aren't breastfed. They are not given a chance to live up to their full potential, usually for reasons that could be fixed. As crash mentioned, I tried to make pudding from some of my breastmilk, but it wouldn't coagulate or whatever. Next time I get a chance, I'll try fresher milk, and I'll also test out the cheese thing.

By: croutonsupafreak

croutonsupafreak — Fri, 26 Mar 2004 10:24:43 -0800

Yay Beth! I'm the daughter of a lactation consultant and La Leche League Leader. This may have contributed to my desire to never have children, but if I ever do I'd definitely breast feed. Here's another nursing tidbit: When babies feed at their mother's breasts, some of the child's saliva is absorbed by the woman. On some probably not-yet-explained by science level the mother's body interprets information for the baby's saliva and adapts to the child's needs, providing more or less fat and different nutrients in the milk. Newborns generally need more fat, for example. As healthy babies develop, their mothers produce less fatty breastmilk. But sickly older babies will continue to get fatty breast milk if it's what they need.

By: bluishorange

bluishorange — Fri, 26 Mar 2004 10:38:21 -0800

i saw some breast-milk cheese at the museum of modern art (in its temporary queens location) in 2002. my google search for "museum of modern art 'breast milk' cheese" turned up a self-link, but i didn't find much else. it's a shame i didn't take a photo of the cheese itself, which was inside a little glass-fronted refrigerator. if i remember correctly, it looked like brie. anil was with me, and he knew one of the women who was listed as a milk donor. he called her up and said, "hey, i saw your breast-milk cheese at the museum!"

By: orange swan

orange swan — Fri, 26 Mar 2004 10:50:53 -0800

On some probably not-yet-explained by science level the mother's body interprets information for the baby's saliva and adapts to the child's needs, providing more or less fat and different nutrients in the milk. Whoa! I can't get past the sophistication of that little biological trick.

By: jonmc

jonmc — Fri, 26 Mar 2004 12:34:48 -0800

Whenever I hear "La Leche League," I keep getting this image of those male midgets in the Wizard Of Oz singing their song, then ripping open their shirts to reveal boobs. I need to lie down.

By: precocious

precocious — Fri, 26 Mar 2004 14:12:07 -0800

many paint breastfeeding supporters as "bullies" to bolster their position. No, actually, they were just bullies. There would have been a difference between women who sat down and, in an intellectual manner, described to me the benefits of breast feeding versus formula feeding. They did not ask to enter my room, they knocked and then walked in. They did not leave a number or address to a support group, in fact, they did not leave until I'd whipped out a tit and popped it into my daughter's mouth. I'm sure they would've, but marked discomfort, unease and illness (I'd developed some sort of infection and was on a drip that gave me 'flu like symptoms') on my behalf sure didn't make them go; maybe I should've picked up something heavy and thrown it at them. To take it a step further, they informed her father to make sure I kept doing it, as it was in his daughter's best interests. And then? They took the free carry bag of formula (which also had a bulb syringe, rattle, ointment, samples and coupons) that the hospital gave me with them. Not only did they bully me, but they stole my stuff. I honestly cannot comprehend how an organization can foster a mother's worst fears while telling them in no uncertain terms, "If you do not breast feed your child, you do not love them." I guess they rationalize those tactics somehow, and many paint women who hate the process (or fail experience any warm, important, self-justifying "mother earth" sensations) as selfish, unloving, and unconcerned.

By: biffa

biffa — Fri, 26 Mar 2004 15:30:17 -0800

I was initially breastfed but by the time I was 6 months old I stopped being able to keep it down. Yay cow's milk.

By: amberglow

amberglow — Fri, 26 Mar 2004 16:00:05 -0800

Don't let anyone make you feel bad about it, precocious (and no one should be scaring a new mother anyway--isn't it scary enough?) And unless you fed it a broken-glass, battery-acid, and hillbilly heroin cocktail, I'm sure your kid got the nutrients it needed. : >

By: whatnot

whatnot — Fri, 26 Mar 2004 17:39:20 -0800

They took the free carry bag of formula (which also had a bulb syringe, rattle, ointment, samples and coupons) that the hospital gave me with them Just to be clear, that was a gift from the formula company, not the hospital. The other stuff is useful, sure, but the intent on the part of the formula company is to simultaneously undermine the breastfeeding relationship and gain your trust, so you will spend the next year or so buying their product(s). I don't approve of the tactics of those who took your bag away--I agree that they are bullies--but at least they are telling the truth.

By: NortonDC

NortonDC — Fri, 26 Mar 2004 17:58:05 -0800

*punches Nelson in the arm*

By: dejah420

dejah420 — Fri, 26 Mar 2004 21:09:55 -0800

precocious, you're not alone...I too ran into what my husband and I nicknamed the "Nipple Nazi's". And I planned on breastfeeding, as soon as I didn't have morphine coursing through my bloodstream. I had the ones who "visited" me severely chastised and they were forced to return all the diaper bags they'd confiscated from all the mothers.

By: agregoli

agregoli — Tue, 30 Mar 2004 10:05:44 -0800

I am sickened to hear this. Women who don't breastfeed are not monsters or women who don't love their kids. It doesn't make much difference one way or the other, in a developed country. Get a grip.

By: five fresh fish

five fresh fish — Tue, 30 Mar 2004 12:00:15 -0800

It does make a difference. Read the studies.

By: Dreama

Dreama — Tue, 30 Mar 2004 13:29:26 -0800

FFF is right, the choice of breast over bottle absolutely makes a difference, an important one, regardless of where in the world you live. But the actions of these supposed pro-lactation types that precocious and dejah encountered were absolutely wrong. Breastfeeding should be an act of love and nurturing, and they were turning into an act of fear and obligation. It's a wholly backwards approach to take if their goal is to support those who have chosen to nurse, encourage those who are on the fence and attempt to persuade those who are leaning toward artificial baby milk. To take their tack via unrequested "consultations" with women who have just endured a hospital birth, who are exhausted, in pain and suffused with a flood of new and unfamiliar hormones is simply sadistic. It's one thing to joke about being a member of the Militant Breastfeeding Cult (something which has a specific definition, btw) but it's another thing altogether to be, well, a nipple nazi. The latter set back the kind, professional and supportive work of La Leche and board certified lactation consultants in dreadful, destructive ways.