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mathowie — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 17:41:28 -0800

Gmail: Google's newest service. They're claiming 1Gb of free email, killer spam filters, and a great new webmail interface. They'll likely have Google ads attached to your messages, but I can't wait to see it tomorrow (hopefully it's not just an April Fools prank).

By: i_am_joe's_spleen

i_am_joe's_spleen — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 17:50:14 -0800

There's a page at gmail.google.com. It's not funny enough for a real joke, so my money is on it being real. Sucks to Yahoo and Hotmail, eh?

By: i_am_joe's_spleen

i_am_joe's_spleen — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 17:51:14 -0800

Actual Google release here.

By: crunchburger

crunchburger — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 17:52:52 -0800

Surely no one would play tricks with a web site that thousands of people visit daily, simply for an April Fool's joke - that's crazy talk :)

By: Jimbob

Jimbob — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 17:59:32 -0800

so my money is on it being real. If it is real, one might ask why on earth a company would choose to announce something like this on April 1st, of all days. Seems counter-productive. But I guess, on the other hand, it does get people talking. If Google's got all that storage space, why not start offering GoogleGroups archives of alt.binaries.*? Jimbob rubs hands in glee.

By: stbalbach

stbalbach — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 18:00:00 -0800

Wow running a web mail service is just about as big and costly as running a search service. Good luck to them.

By: jacobsee

jacobsee — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 18:02:58 -0800

sounds awesome...how do we sign up?

By: thebabelfish

thebabelfish — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 18:09:14 -0800

I'm suspicious of the font of the Gmail logo though; why is it flat and not the same style as all the other Google logos?

By: punishinglemur

punishinglemur — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 18:10:18 -0800

Since when do non-joke press releases from major companies contain a quote like "Heck, Yeah" from the company's founders? I'm not so sure this is serious.

By: soundofsuburbia

soundofsuburbia — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 18:11:53 -0800

I'm so going to refresh gmail.google.com until sign ups are allowed... Must snag a cool address before it's too late! (And if this is an April's Fools, then Google owns me a new F5 key!)

By: i_am_joe's_spleen

i_am_joe's_spleen — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 18:14:00 -0800

The date on the release is March 31. "Heck , yeah" is entirely in keeping with their branding. If you are right, I promise to donate all the money I have staked on this to charity ;-)

By: tapeguy

tapeguy — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 18:15:09 -0800

"Search is Number Two Online Activity – Email is Number One; "Heck, Yeah," Say Google Founders" This has to be a joke. Why else launch it on 1st April and not earlier this week when they did the re-jigger of the google front page? But - call me crazy - maybe not... Then again, it would be bad luck to put up an April Fool's gag before midnight. And they do seem to be putting forward a whole bunch of ideas and improvements at the moment ahead of that whole 'IPO' thing. And I'm sure that the small print will give them the right to have their search system scan through your incoming mails so they can tell what popular new links are emerging so they can use that to enhance PageRank and search results. Sort of like a blogdex-but-for-email kinda thing. So if it is true, bye bye Hotmail.

By: punishinglemur

punishinglemur — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 18:18:47 -0800

Isn't the time listed in linked press release just about 0:00 GMT? As in the start of April 1?

By: birdherder

birdherder — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 18:19:17 -0800

Here's an NYT article about gmail. I need a new email account like a hole in my head but will probably give it a try.

By: pedantic

pedantic — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 18:19:20 -0800

The date on the release is March 31. And yet the release on their site says April 1. Curious.

By: Zurishaddai

Zurishaddai — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 18:22:53 -0800

And I'm sure that the small print will give them the right to have their search system scan through your incoming mails so they can tell what popular new links are emerging so they can use that to enhance PageRank and search results. But the NYT article says, "Many people inside the company are worried that users might fear that the content of their e-mail messages could be used to tailor individual advertising messages, much as ad messages are now placed on pages tied to specific responses to search inquiries. Google hopes to quell any such concerns by assuring users that the content of their messages will remain private."

By: GirlFriday

GirlFriday — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 18:23:57 -0800

Apparently Evan's been using it for awhile. Even if it is an April Fools joke, it's a great idea for Google to add — plus, without it even opening to the public, they're getting great hype on it already.

By: punishinglemur

punishinglemur — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 18:26:10 -0800

The inspiriation for this service "kvetched" about other webmail providers? She has to "delete email like crazy"? Since when do quotes like that from company officials find their way into an announcement of a major product launch? Has the NYT, AP, Reuters, Slashdot, Metafilter, etc. all been Punk'd? Or am I just overanalyzing this press release? In the event that it is real, this post and all of mine preceding it in this discussion were april fools jokes.

By: i_am_joe's_spleen

i_am_joe's_spleen — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 18:26:33 -0800

I will swear blind that the page on their site was dated March 31 when I read it. I notice the dateline on the Times article is March 31 too. Damnit, maybe you're right.

By: Jimbob

Jimbob — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 18:28:31 -0800

Evan does work for Google, GirlFriday (as some bloke in #mefi just informed me). Maybe he's in on the joke?

By: oog

oog — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 18:30:47 -0800

well, i'm going to make myself vulnerable to falling for the "joke," if that's even true, by hoping against hope that it's going to happen. i want a fucking great @google address. that'd be pretty cool.

By: adampsyche

adampsyche — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 18:34:22 -0800

Gmail.google.com is not responding.

By: punishinglemur

punishinglemur — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 18:38:58 -0800

If you're having trouble accessing the GMail page, try this. That's a link to the IP for gmail.google.com, works for me when the domain doesn't.

By: punishinglemur

punishinglemur — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 18:43:56 -0800

If Evan works for Google, maybe he has been using this for a while. Maybe it's some sort of upgrade for Google employees.

By: fresh-n-minty

fresh-n-minty — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 18:47:01 -0800

I did a quick whois lookup and Google does own the gmail.com domain name. I still think it may be an April Fools gag but don't you think the New York Times would do some fact checking before putting it on their front (web) page?

By: punishinglemur

punishinglemur — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 18:50:39 -0800

Maybe they did some fact-checking and Google lied to them. Interesting. The more I try to justify my claim that it's a joke, the more ridiculous that claim seems. But when I look at the evidence that it's real, it just seems ridiculous. The universe is collapsing, folks.

By: gleuschk

gleuschk — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 18:53:44 -0800

gmail.com works fine, and just has the "coming soon" teaser. Why would this be a joke? "Ho ho! We gotcha! Made ya think we were going to have a great product! But we don't! Joke's on you!"

By: zpousman

zpousman — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 18:54:31 -0800

[on preview: fresh-n-minty beat me!] % > whois gmail.com Registrant: Google Inc. (DOM-425410) 2400 E. Bayshore Pkwy Mountain View CA 94043 US Domain Name: gmail.com Registrar Name: Alldomains.com Registrar Whois: whois.alldomains.com Registrar Homepage: http://www.alldomains.com ... Created on..............: 1995-Aug-13. Expires on..............: 2006-Aug-12. Record last updated on..: 2004-Mar-31 16:50:22. Domain servers in listed order: NS1.GOOGLE.COM 216.239.32.10 NS2.GOOGLE.COM 216.239.34.10 </snip> I'm still not convinced. Somebody had the gmail domain since 1995, but certainly not google. My bet is that they bought the domain just for this prank, on somebody's 20% time. 20% of a bunch of smart geek's time would make for a killer April Fool's prank -- write the press releases. check. make up an ugly logo. check. buy a dormant url. check.

By: mathowie

mathowie — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 18:56:03 -0800

Oh dang, Google has a patent on serving ads up with email.

By: mathowie

mathowie — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 18:56:52 -0800

I don't think it's a prank at this point. Sorry I mentioned it in the original post as a throwaway line.

By: davidmsc

davidmsc — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 18:57:17 -0800

Others are reporting it, too. I think it's legit.

By: substrate

substrate — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 19:03:23 -0800

The could do the Bastard Operator From Hell approach to 1 gigabyte of email storage and spam filtering perfection. seventhcircle# ls -l /var/spool/mail/ma/matthowie lrwxr-x--- 1 matthowie mail 9 31 Mar 20:51 /data/mail1/ma/matthowie -> /dev/null "No Mr. Haughey, your account seems fine. I don't know why you wouldn't be receiving any email. I'd be willing to double your quota for a Metafilter account though."

By: Space Coyote

Space Coyote — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 19:06:53 -0800

I should sign up for like hundreds of address with cool short names and hold them. Then sell them on ebay when google clobbers hotmail into the ground. Though some ass who knows how to script http requests is probably way ahead of me on this one..

By: mathowie

mathowie — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 19:07:09 -0800

The more I read about the possibilities of this, the more I want to give it a try. Imagine Google-quality search of your own email. Imagine unlimited storage and secure access via IMAP (hey, I can dream, can't I?). Imagine the best spam filters ever, and Google's gigantor team of lawyers going after anyone that spams their email accounts. Heck, if this is half as good as I think it could be, I'll likely get rid of my whitelisting service I currently use to eliminate spam.

By: quam

quam — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 19:24:30 -0800

So, how does google profit from such a service? The display of textual ads based on keywords of an email the user is currently reading? That could be interesting considering the unique nature of email content vs. search phrases.

By: substrate

substrate — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 19:28:52 -0800

I just hope that if it's true google isn't spreading itself too thin. A gigabyte of storage per user seems like a lot even though I realize that they're going to be playing the "most people don't really use the service" game. The thing with email is that even if you don't make use of it over time it's still possible for you to accumulate a gigabyte unless the spam filters are absolutely perfect. It's not like a shared hosting account where if you have an index page that says "Under Construction" eventually people will get the idea that it's not going anywhere. The numbers are pretty staggering and the more popular it gets the more money it costs. Blowing hotmail out of the water isn't necessarily a useful thing for google (or even really possible - Microsoft has around 50 billion in cash to crush google with if they felt it would be beneficial). I hope it's real but only if it doesn't undermine google. A good search engine is more important to me than a free email account.

By: zpousman

zpousman — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 19:33:04 -0800

[on preview: bugger, now substrate beats me to the punch. But I have links.] Keep on dreamin' Matt! Imagine if Gmail signed up 30,000 users tomorrow (no sweat, right?). Lets say that these people jump at the opportunity and move all of their mail there, to get the benefits of searching, and media linking, etc. My mailstore is about 250 MB, and it's only 3 years old. If those 30,000 users (a drop in the bucket) used a large portion of their mail allocation, it would make the mailstore one of the biggest databases in existence. Heck, the Internet Archive is only 100 TB. There's no way that any company could profitably offer 1 GB to all comers. You just couldn't buy that much storage, at almost any cost.

By: quarantine

quarantine — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 19:33:27 -0800

[0012] Thus, it would be useful to allow advertisers to put targeted ads on, or to serve ads in association with, any content perceived by people. Well, that's a nice hint at Google's long-term strategy.

By: mrplab

mrplab — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 19:40:16 -0800

sounds innovative and risky. sounds google.

By: stavrosthewonderchicken

stavrosthewonderchicken — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 19:41:05 -0800

that's a nice hint at Google's long-term strategy. If so, they've got a cockeyed understanding of the word 'evil'.

By: konolia

konolia — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 19:43:06 -0800

Well. as of a little while ago Drudge Report is calling it an April Fool's joke. And there isn't even a hint of any of this on Google proper. I vote joke.

By: punishinglemur

punishinglemur — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 19:48:44 -0800

No hint other than this press release.

By: glenwood

glenwood — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 19:51:08 -0800

does google's apparent loss of focus make anyone else nervous? i'm all about innovation and actually find all (well, most) of their nifty little spin off projects intriguing, but at the end of the day what we want is a fast, unbelievably relevant search engine - anything else just seems like a distraction from this goal. (of course when this all comes out as a april fools joke tomorrow i'll look like a goofus.)

By: amberglow

amberglow — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 20:13:14 -0800

I still think it's a joke for April Fools. Are people really clamoring for another email address anyway?

By: carter

carter — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 20:17:50 -0800

Loss of focus? I dunno, if it's real, and people use it, and store tera/peta bytes of stuff there, that would be one cool pile of data for Google to work on to try and figure out what people really really do with e-mail - and then build services for it. I don't think the cost/amount of storage is a problem; I have half a terabyte in external storage (250 GB + 250 GB) on my desk at the moment, and I could add more for about $1/GB.

By: taumeson

taumeson — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 20:37:57 -0800

totally a joke. press release says april first, slashdot story says april first, etc. good job, ./ and google. i want to see how far this one goes.

By: GirlFriday

GirlFriday — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 20:40:55 -0800

I'm starting to lean more and more towards the idea of it being an April Fools joke. zpousman has a great point — there just isn't enough space on the Internet to hold it all.

By: anathema

anathema — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 20:43:09 -0800

Search+Orkut+Gmail=One Mother Of A Database Let's just hope that an IPO doesn't kill the company. I can't help but think that all the new "features" are just for IPO purposes. My question is, when all these pieces are finally integrated are we looking at a killer-app-to-end-all-killer-apps for both consumers and businesses? Sure is fun to watch.

By: Zurishaddai

Zurishaddai — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 20:43:16 -0800

To me, the fact that googling gmail yields nothing is odd.

By: anathema

anathema — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 20:45:52 -0800

Well, even if it's a joke it still is a compelling idea. Even without an email service the potential for the tools already in place is somewhat staggering.

By: mecran01

mecran01 — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 20:48:25 -0800

It would be too cool. Can someone recommend an affordable IMAP host that plays well with OS X? I've finally given up on our school's flakey email system after losing mail twice in one semester.

By: PrinceValium

PrinceValium — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 20:50:11 -0800

I'd be very concerned about content-specific ads for email. Data mining of private communication is ethically questionable.

By: quarantine

quarantine — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 20:57:32 -0800

I'd be very concerned about content-specific ads for email. Data mining of private communication is ethically questionable. I'd say that's an understatement. It undercuts most everything good about the internet.

By: carter

carter — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 20:59:27 -0800

there just isn't enough space on the Internet to hold it all. Well, assuming that everyone who has e-mail is also connected to the Internet, if only temporarily at times, in some ways it *is* already being held on the Internet, just on millions of small personal terminals. What Google want to do is keep it all in one place and move it from client to server. Also, not every one is going to use up 1GB. Individual attachments will be limited to 10MB and it would take some serious usage to push up to 1GB. Also, the size of accounts will follow an inverse power law distribution, so the average size of account will be a lot less than 1GB, and the median will be even less; eventually they're looking at lots of accounts less than 200MB, probably, and just a few (in % terms) in the 500MB+ range. At the start of the service, accounts will probably be even smaller, although they will grow in size as the service spreads and people get used to mailing each other MBs at a time.

By: quarantine

quarantine — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 21:02:35 -0800

And by the way, I can't be the only one who would use 1 GB of free space to email myself large backups (it's trivial to write a Linux script to chop a file into 10 MB portions and email them en masse.) I think that counting on under-utilization of the service would be a dramatic error. Of course, this is all moot of it's a hoax. PigeonRank was clever. MentalPlex was somewhat clever. A hoax about free email services seems like, at best, testing the waters for a potential product launch.

By: anathema

anathema — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 21:05:34 -0800

Data mining of private communication is ethically questionable. And if you agree to it?

By: carter

carter — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 21:13:47 -0800

quarantine, I'm not saying that it will be under-utilised; but rather than when it is being *fully* utilised (don't know how you would tell, but maybe say when it's the size of Yahoo or Hotmail), if you then took the size of everyones' accounts and plotted it, it would follow an inverse power distribution, with there being a relatively few accounts maxed out (such as yours), more smaller accounts, and a huge number of very small/defunct accounts (mine, probably). At some point the median *would* start to creep up, but by then the cost of storage would almost certainly have fallen too.

By: strangeleftydoublethink

strangeleftydoublethink — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 21:16:17 -0800

I say it's an April Fools joke. But, if six months from now, Google is offering a free email service, I will offer an apology in whatever forum you prefer (or something like that).

By: adam

adam — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 21:21:27 -0800

I think it's safe to assume it's an April Fools "joke." It's just not funny.

By: nasim

nasim — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 21:22:41 -0800

How about them also counting on the continuous exponentially improvements in storage capacity? If they are able to survive the first year of operation they can double their storage capacity for 1/2 the price they paid to set it up and and so on...they just need to stay ahead of the growth curve of the service and it may take most people time to switch over from hotmail, yahoo et al. Provided they are able to discriminate against users who are doing anything other than opening a new account and using it to start sending text messages then they should be able to do this...

By: fvw

fvw — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 21:36:57 -0800

Strangeleftydoublethink: Ok, best start saving up for the airline ticket just in case.

By: mawlymawnster

mawlymawnster — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 21:47:16 -0800

actually, the internet archive is way bigger than that, zpousman. that article was written 2 years ago and now it's up around 400TB, (though it's hard to tell with file compression).

By: sixdifferentways

sixdifferentways — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 22:01:49 -0800

a free search-based webmail service with a storage capacity of up to eight billion bits of information, the equivalent of 500,000 pages of email. Per user. You mean some of you think this is *not* an April Fool's joke?

By: Civil_Disobedient

Civil_Disobedient — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 22:05:04 -0800

Individual attachments will be limited to 10MB and it would take some serious usage to push up to 1GB As quarantine mentioned, this would be so ripe for abuse it's not even funny. Think about it like this: There are a number of groups that trade in warez/movies over the internet. The major method of transport (not counting between members of a group who are no doubt using FTP accounts on OC-3's) is IRC, Usenet, FastTrack (and other p2p) and more recently Bittorrent. But just Usenet generates gigs and gigs of traffic. What Google would effectively allow people to do is open an email account, then share (most) movies or applications (or entire CD rips... you get the idea) just by splitting them up (which is already done for Usenet posts) and clicking "SEND". You can fit almost two CD's in a mailbox. Or one high-quality DivX movie. Or Microsoft Office and Windows 2003. It would not take long to fill. The inter-email bandwidth for people sending "gmail-to-gmail" email to each other could swamp their connections, to think nothing of the problem in storing that much information. The guys at Google are saavy and no doubt aware of this. Either they've got more computers and bandwidth than God, or a really sick sense of humor. The problem is, both aren't *too* unreasonable given the mad geniuses behind the company's doors. Still, my vote is for hoax.

By: quin

quin — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 22:13:34 -0800

i don't know, the page just went live. Nothing particularly funny about it. i get errors when trying to submit an email address but YMMV. if it's a joke, it's not a very good one.

By: shoepal

shoepal — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 22:15:08 -0800

hmm... (I got errors too, quin)

By: fvw

fvw — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 22:18:55 -0800

I'm going to stick my neck out here and say it's not a joke. The people behind google have a far too well developed sense of humour to try doing this as a joke, unless they have a spectacular stage two of the joke planned.

By: anastasiav

anastasiav — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 22:19:37 -0800

error here as well.... ... Drat. I stayed up late for this??

By: one.louder.ash!

one.louder.ash! — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 22:37:41 -0800

something tells me that this is Google's April Fool's joke.

By: answergrape

answergrape — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 22:41:36 -0800

one.louder.ash! may be right, but this gave me pause: During this testing period, the Gmail interface is only available in English. However, we're committed to making Gmail available to as many people in as many languages as possible. And Gmail accounts can already be used to read and send email in most languages (even Klingon).

By: shoepal

shoepal — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 22:42:37 -0800

msnbc, notes the suspicious date for announcing such a venture... "Google spokesman David Krane, reached Wednesday night, admitted that the "color and personality" of the press release -- which is dated "April 1 UTC" and includes phrases such as "millions of M&Ms later, Gmail was born" -- "was indeed in the spirit of April 1" but said that Gmail was a serious product." Though, it seems like it will be okutted for the first few weeks, "For now, Google is only opening up the service to invited users but expects to make it accessible to everyone within a few weeks, Google co-founder Larry Page told The Associated Press."

By: shoepal

shoepal — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 22:44:36 -0800

doh! That was supposed to be "orkutted," not okutted. sigh.

By: pmurray63

pmurray63 — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 22:47:30 -0800

The press releasea page is suspiciously specific as to the timing of this particular release (emphasis added): April 1, 2004 UTC Google Gets the Message, Launches Gmail March 29, 2004 Google Introduces Personalized Search Services; Site Enhancements Emphasize Efficiency March 17, 2004 Google Connects Searchers With Local Information Maybe as in, "even if it's not April Fool's Day where you are," nudge nudge wink wink? I vote hoax. Brilliant in that it's got us talking... but some people are gonna be pissed.

By: dglynn

dglynn — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 22:48:42 -0800

Sometimes you need a truck-load of bandwidth. You have to cover yourself for peak demand, for the service you provide. But you still might not be using all your bandwidth. Think Nextel, where changing the expectation of latency leaves you with a new service to sell at a premium. It's not hard to fill your pipes at peak, but it is hard to fill all your pipes all the time. If they can give away another service within the parameters of their existing bandwidth and provide good service, then they would be fools not to. It takes a lot to fill the pipes efficiently, and if you have capacity than use it. This is really basic network theory with a business model over-layed on top of it. Actually, it's typical Google business strategy.

By: quin

quin — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 22:57:48 -0800

Well, it took my address. i guess now we wait and see.

By: elpapacito

elpapacito — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 23:00:34 -0800

April 1, 2004: female users rejoice as Google launches free Gspot service

By: shepd

shepd — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 23:04:39 -0800

Civil Disobedient, that was my very first thought... Open Anonymous Proxy... Check Gmail Account... Check Too much time on my hands... Check Balls to do the work... Hmmm...

By: stavrosthewonderchicken

stavrosthewonderchicken — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 23:32:57 -0800

Damn, I was hoping for an actual signup page, not a 'send me info later'. Ah well.

By: justgary

justgary — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 23:44:00 -0800

Damn, I was hoping for an actual signup page, not a 'send me info later'. Don't sweat it too much. I'm thinking your getting stavrosthewonderchicken@google.com is a pretty save bet. ;)

By: justgary

justgary — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 23:49:24 -0800

SaFe bet even.

By: Samizdata

Samizdata — Thu, 01 Apr 2004 00:00:58 -0800

Took mine, too, BTW.

By: precipice

precipice — Thu, 01 Apr 2004 00:15:29 -0800

I think it would be great if Gmail and Orkut joined forces so that I would only receive gmail from my orkut network -- in other words, use orkut to help me filter out spam. Then orkut would have, like, a purpose.

By: stbalbach

stbalbach — Thu, 01 Apr 2004 00:19:14 -0800

The joke is on Microsoft (who runs Hotmail the biggest free email service), who is trying to out-compete Google at its own game (new MS search service).

By: mosch

mosch — Thu, 01 Apr 2004 00:22:12 -0800

I'm going to go on record here as saying 'i think this is real, and it is cool'. Anybody who thinks that it will be common for people to have 250MB mailstores is a bit off. The entire hosting industry is built on overselling capacity, and this would be no different. Storage is cheap, and google is already expert at running huge systems with cheap hardware.

By: The God Complex

The God Complex — Thu, 01 Apr 2004 00:24:19 -0800

Don't sweat it too much. I'm thinking your getting stavrosthewonderchicken@google.com is a pretty save bet. You might think so, but I'm camping on that and every variation of it right now, including stav69@google.com.

By: asd

asd — Thu, 01 Apr 2004 00:24:56 -0800

How to apply for a job at Google 2007 Just write an Email to yourself stating: I want to work for google. We will then contact you. Don't send any application or resumee. We know everything about you.

By: abcde

abcde — Thu, 01 Apr 2004 00:41:33 -0800

I'm pretty sure it's real. In corporate drone style, Google has one unbelievable April Fool's prank every year. The announcement of Gmail on April 1 is either a coincidence or wonderfully clever marketing (1GB is so much, people dismissed it as a prank).

By: Lafe

Lafe — Thu, 01 Apr 2004 11:20:15 -0800

For those thinking of ways to abuse GMail (if it turns out to be real), it looks like Google has already thought of that.

By: chicobangs

chicobangs — Thu, 01 Apr 2004 11:20:27 -0800

I believe it. After all, you can search in whatever language you're most comfortable in. I, for one, welcome our... something something something.

By: alms

alms — Thu, 01 Apr 2004 11:26:38 -0800

On the issue of their being able to afford it, the NYTimes article mentions a cost to Google of $2 to provide a gig of storage for a user. I also think (and hope) this is real. Which brings us to the obvious question: who is going to be the first person to write a utility that will automatically move the entire contents (e-mail, folders, and address book) of a Yahoo or Hotmail account into a gmail account? My wife is paying $$ for a Yahoo account that is perpetually 98% full with stuff that she hasn't read in years but doesn't want to let go of and doesn't have time to manually archive.

By: bonaldi

bonaldi — Thu, 01 Apr 2004 11:33:07 -0800

I am so bummed about this. I'm right in the middle of constructing my own search-your-life e-mail system. Pants, pants, pants. Oh, and yesterday I discovered that my great idea for GPS person location using mobile phones has been implemented by Siemens. Pants, pants, pants. I need to get me a US patent lawyer, yo.

By: goethean

goethean — Thu, 01 Apr 2004 11:33:08 -0800

Well. as of a little while ago Drudge Report is calling it an April Fool's joke. That clinches it--it's for real.

By: adamrice

adamrice — Thu, 01 Apr 2004 11:36:03 -0800

I wonder if it's a trial balloon. If the net reaction is positive, they can say "Ha! double-fake. We were serious" and then run with it. If it's negative, they can say "Hey, just fooling, guys. It was an April 1 release, after all. That would be smart.

By: unreason

unreason — Thu, 01 Apr 2004 12:04:00 -0800

According to Forbes, google has announced that Gmail is not a hoax: Google's free e-mail service called Gmail, which will offer significantly more storage than Yahoo or MSN, "is not a hoax," said Jonathan Rosenberg, Google's vice president of products. ... "It is April Fool's Day. We were having fun with this announcement. We are very serious about Gmail," Rosenberg said in an interview.

By: sudama

sudama — Thu, 01 Apr 2004 13:16:38 -0800

Jimbob rubs hands in glee. Um, you're doing it wrong.

By: chicobangs

chicobangs — Thu, 01 Apr 2004 13:51:09 -0800

Aw, sudama, let the man have his fun. That binaries thing might be a while. With all the multiple versions of Pam & Tommy movies or whatever and audition tapes of nekkid starlets and donkey games, that kind of library'd make the Internet Archive look like a 5.25" floppy. So until they work all that out, at least Jimbob (among others, uh, he said) at least has his hands.

By: ParisParamus

ParisParamus — Thu, 01 Apr 2004 14:23:11 -0800

Does anyone have anything bad to say about Google? I don't, but I find it odd that no one seems to. I'd love to work for them.

By: valerie

valerie — Thu, 01 Apr 2004 14:45:11 -0800

Does anyone have anything bad to say about Google? I don't, but I find it odd that no one seems to. You must not talk to many people ;) There are plenty of people concerned with the way Google deals with privacy, the quality of their searches, and so on. More info here: http://www.google-watch.org/

By: mkhall

mkhall — Thu, 01 Apr 2004 14:52:51 -0800

I can't shake the feeling that I read something about this months ago, something indicating that Google had bought the domain and registered the patent. At the time I thought it sounded interesting, but now I can't find any reference to that earlier article. Well, I can't find it by searching Google, anyway. [shivering at the image of happy, smiling Google enforcers eradicating all trace of the author's existence]

By: ph00dz

ph00dz — Thu, 01 Apr 2004 17:41:16 -0800

Google, I know you're reading this. You should give me an email account.

By: massless

massless — Thu, 01 Apr 2004 21:04:40 -0800

We are reading this, actually. And asd...we saw that your phone fell out of its charger. We replaced it, hope you don't mind.

By: stavrosthewonderchicken

stavrosthewonderchicken — Thu, 01 Apr 2004 22:36:21 -0800

Stop it, you're freaking me out.

By: Zurishaddai

Zurishaddai — Fri, 02 Apr 2004 09:36:38 -0800

Update: There's a public login screen, which means that (provided the error message saying no one has that email address is accurate) you can see if anyone has already squatted on your desired gmail address.

By: gradfinder

gradfinder — Sat, 03 Apr 2004 00:02:24 -0800

I think you need to login as name@google.com though. Too bad jason@google.com is already taken :(

By: gradfinder

gradfinder — Sat, 03 Apr 2004 00:11:57 -0800

They are going to make boatloads of cash selling text ads inside of emails. The ads will quickly pay for the $1/Gb storage cost (which is falling fast). Google is getting a bit too large (creepy) though. Their IPO may turn them into a company like micro$oft.

By: ajpresto

ajpresto — Sat, 03 Apr 2004 06:13:05 -0800

Update (although kinda lame): There's a link at the bottom of gmail.google.com for somebody's girlfriend. It's kinda . (The girl, and the thoughtfulness behind the link). Plus also, this link thing won't work right in preview. Sorry if it's ugly.

By: ajpresto

ajpresto — Sat, 03 Apr 2004 06:13:31 -0800

(I knew it)

By: ParisParamus

ParisParamus — Sat, 03 Apr 2004 11:23:49 -0800

What's the deal with the browser requirements? Seems like my 0S9.2 Mac is cut out????

By: piskycritter

piskycritter — Wed, 07 Apr 2004 11:50:19 -0800

Does anyone have anything bad to say about Google?

Note that if you delete an email, Google may mark it so that it is invisible to you, but might not really delete it. And if you terminate your account, Google does not guarantee that they will erase your emails. Google decides what to delete and when, not you. It's none of your business.

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