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	<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2004 16:32:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Home of the Underdogs</title>
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		<description>&quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.the-underdogs.org/index.php&quot;&gt;Home of the Underdogs&lt;/a&gt; is a non-profit site dedicated to the preservation and promotion of underrated PC games (and a few non-PC games) of all ages: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.the-underdogs.org/featured.php&quot;&gt;good games&lt;/a&gt;  that deserve a second chance after dismal sales or critical reviews that we feel are unwarranted.&quot;</description>
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		<dc:creator>Hildago</dc:creator>		<category>freeware</category>		<category>shareware</category>		<category>obsolescence</category>		<category>archive</category>		<category>game</category>		<category>games</category>		<category>secondchance</category>		<category>preservation</category>		<category>non-profit</category>
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		<title>By: Hildago</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32219/Home-of-the-Underdogs#649096</link>	
		<description>A great site that has been mentioned in threads before, but, like its subject matter, has not to my knowledge been given the front page attention it deserves.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2004 16:32:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mayor Curley</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32219/Home-of-the-Underdogs#649098</link>	
		<description>I want to play any game that involves &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.the-underdogs.org/games/a/amfv/amfv-c.jpg &quot;&gt;the bloody, disembodied head of Michael Landon&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2004 16:41:51 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mayor Curley</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: reklaw</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32219/Home-of-the-Underdogs#649099</link>	
		<description>Weird... I just downloaded the amusing (to me, anyway) &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?gameid=4320&quot;&gt;Gorilla 2&lt;/a&gt; from there yesterday. The best game on the site, in my opinion, is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?id=2484&quot;&gt;The Neverhood&lt;/a&gt;, which I downloaded ages ago and played for hours and hours.

Bandwidth does tend to be a bit of a problem at Underdogs, though...</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2004 16:50:33 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dorian</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32219/Home-of-the-Underdogs#649100</link>	
		<description>ah, hotu. possibly the best &quot;game&quot; ever: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?id=1906&quot; title=&quot;kwaidan-riffic!&quot;&gt;cosmology of kyoto&lt;/a&gt; and also a damned good vampire rpg: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?id=1850&quot; title=&quot;vae victus!&quot;&gt;legacy of kain&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2004 17:00:51 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Hildago</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32219/Home-of-the-Underdogs#649112</link>	
		<description>I got to it in a roundabout way, via following up information on  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.harveycartel.org/metanet/downloads.html&quot;&gt;this game&lt;/a&gt;, N, which I&apos;ve been playing all day.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2004 17:45:17 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Hildago</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: milovoo</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32219/Home-of-the-Underdogs#649132</link>	
		<description>Whee!  They&apos;ve got &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?id=2435&quot;&gt;Trust and Betrayal&lt;/a&gt;!</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2004 18:33:48 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Scoo</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32219/Home-of-the-Underdogs#649134</link>	
		<description>They also have a &lt;a href=&quot;http://mac.the-underdogs.org/&quot;&gt;Mac abandonware site&lt;/a&gt;, God bless &apos;em!</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2004 18:40:00 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: andreaazure</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32219/Home-of-the-Underdogs#649144</link>	
		<description>*ahem* Blatant plug time! *ahem*

There was a game released in 1997 called &quot;Chron X.&quot; It was an online strategy trading card game released in 1997. It rocked; I was a beta tester. I liked the game so much that when the company had a job opening, I took it. I designed their third through fifth sets before the company closed in January 2003.

I purchased the game from its parent company in March 2003. We have released two more expansion sets in the past year and the game is alive, well and kicking!

The site is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.chronx.com/&quot;&gt;www.chronx.com&lt;/a&gt;. It needs a bit of updating. If you buy our game and email me as a MeFi member, I&apos;ll give you a bunch of cards or something.

OK, cheap plug complete. I feel dirty. I hope this doesn&apos;t lower my standing as a newbie member...? (&lt;i&gt;Can&lt;/i&gt; you be lower than newbie?)</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2004 19:20:03 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Eldritch</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32219/Home-of-the-Underdogs#649145</link>	
		<description>What a fantastic site. Hours of nostalgic fun. Using &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.scummvm.org/&quot;&gt;ScummVM&lt;/a&gt;, I was able to play &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.the-underdogs.org/company.php?id=250&quot;&gt;some of the great LucasArts adventure games&lt;/a&gt;. Likewise, with a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.logicalshift.demon.co.uk/mac/zoom.html&quot;&gt;Z-Code&lt;/a&gt; interpreter, I was able to play &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?id=2134&quot;&gt;the best Infocom text adventure ever&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2004 19:34:15 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: effugas</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32219/Home-of-the-Underdogs#649162</link>	
		<description>I still need to find a rip of Sam &apos;n Max w/ the actual sound.  The game is so empty without that great voice acting...</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2004 21:11:33 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jmd82</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32219/Home-of-the-Underdogs#649167</link>	
		<description>Wow...this has never been a FPP post before!?  This is defintely one of my favorite websites of all time.  The classics friggin ROCK!</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2004 21:31:07 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: vacapinta</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32219/Home-of-the-Underdogs#649169</link>	
		<description>I have to agree that this is one of the best sites on the entire Internet.

Even if you are not into games, how about this &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?id=3435&quot;&gt;hyper-audio-text rendition of Shakespeare&apos;s Macbeth&lt;/a&gt;?

good good stuff.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2004 21:41:57 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ashbury</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32219/Home-of-the-Underdogs#649193</link>	
		<description>This site knocks my socks off!  Thanks for the link - I can&apos;t believe this hasn&apos;t hit the front page.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2004 22:41:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: interrobang</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32219/Home-of-the-Underdogs#649197</link>	
		<description>I have an iBook, and I can&apos;t get anything to work off the macintosh part of the site pointed out by Scoo.  I&apos;ve been wanting to play &quot;King&apos;s Quest&quot; and all the &quot;Space Quest&quot; games for ages, but they just don&apos;t work on my computer.  Any advice?  I have tons of memory; I don&apos;t get why this isn&apos;t working.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2004 22:55:03 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: interrobang</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32219/Home-of-the-Underdogs#649201</link>	
		<description>I should add that &quot;Space Quest 2&quot; &lt;i&gt;kind of&lt;/i&gt; works: I get the text, but not the visuals.  The other &quot;Space Quest&quot; games - and &quot;King&apos;s Quest&quot; don&apos;t open at all.  They seem to launch, but then nothing happens.

I&apos;ve tried adjusting the colors on my computer - I&apos;m running Jaguar, so I also run OS9 - but that doesn&apos;t seem to do anything.  I thought I might have to switch to 16 colors, but the lowest I seem to be allowed is 256.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2004 23:05:18 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: vacapinta</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32219/Home-of-the-Underdogs#649207</link>	
		<description>I dont know if your answer is there but the site does have &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.the-underdogs.org/forum/&quot;&gt;forums &lt;/a&gt;including one for technical help</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2004 23:30:19 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Bdave</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32219/Home-of-the-Underdogs#649208</link>	
		<description>Oh wow.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?id=2159&quot;&gt;Shufflepuck Cafe&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?id=422&quot;&gt;The Fool&apos;s Errand&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?id=2278&quot;&gt;Apache Strike&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;All games I used to play on an ancient Macintosh. I don&apos;t know what&apos;s cooler, having the nostalgia rush or actually being able to comment about it here.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This is surreal. (I&apos;m New)</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2004 23:30:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Grod</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32219/Home-of-the-Underdogs#649220</link>	
		<description>Underdogs.org have been around for a while.  A truly great resource.  I need to disagree with Eldritch, however.  The greatest Infocom game(s) were:
&lt;ol&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Leather Goddess of Phobos&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;HHGTTG&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Zork&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;bureaucracy&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ol&gt;
That is all.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Apr 2004 00:41:36 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: BitterOldPunk</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32219/Home-of-the-Underdogs#649221</link>	
		<description>I checked the site out using my standard criteria: do they like &quot;Out Of This World&quot; and &quot;Planescape: Torment&quot;.

They do.

I must trust these folks.

One of the few MeFi FPPs I immediately bookmarked.

Thanks for the link!</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Apr 2004 00:55:03 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tcp</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32219/Home-of-the-Underdogs#649224</link>	
		<description>The site is great. You can also look at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pinggames.com/index.php&quot;&gt;ping! games&lt;/a&gt; (formerly classic-trash.com) if you don&apos;t find your favorite. 

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?gameid=114&quot;&gt;Beneath a Steel Sky&lt;/a&gt; is a an atmospheric adventure with a great intro, if i remember correctly it also runs under ScummVM.

But my all-time-favorite is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.atari.st/view.php?id=1699&quot;&gt;Supercars 2&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Apr 2004 01:02:15 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: eddydamascene</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32219/Home-of-the-Underdogs#649227</link>	
		<description>Best game titles EVAR:

&lt;a href=&apos;http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?id=2971&apos;&gt;2005: A Game of Macroeconomics&lt;/a&gt;
&quot;an excellent free game that achieves what many expensive releases have tried and failed: teach basic concepts of macroeconomics&quot;

&lt;a href=&apos;http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?id=3560&apos;&gt;Catch The Sperm 2&lt;/a&gt;
&quot;Released as part of the &apos;Stop Aids&apos; campaign of Switzerland&apos;s Federal Ministry of Health and Swiss Aids federation, Catch the Sperm 2 naturally carries a positive message: unprotected sex is risky.&quot;

&lt;a href=&apos;http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?id=4304&apos;&gt;Girlfriend Construction Set&lt;/a&gt;
&quot;You start the game with 50 status points, which you can spend on the ten attributes of the girlfriend you are creating.&quot;

&lt;a href=&apos;http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?id=457&apos;&gt;The Global Dilemma: Guns or Butter&lt;/a&gt;
&quot;your task is to manage... the conflicting needs of the military and industry... by allocating the production of various commodities...&quot;

&lt;a href=&apos;http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?id=3765&apos;&gt;International Bridge Contractors&lt;/a&gt;
&quot;IBC is a lot of fun if you like business simulations -- especially one that depicts a services industry that not many other games focus on.&quot;

&lt;a href=&apos;http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?id=4771&apos;&gt;Liberal Crime Squad&lt;/a&gt;
&quot;The Conservatives have taken the Executive, Legislative, and Judicial branches of government. Over time, the Liberal laws of this nation will erode... To prevent this from happening, the Liberal Crime Squad was established.&quot;

&lt;a href=&apos;http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?id=3197&apos;&gt;Periodic Table of The Elements&lt;/a&gt;
&quot;In addition to presenting all the key information about each element in an easy-to-understand format, the program also... allows you to quickly calculate the mole of mass compounds.&quot;

&lt;a href=&apos;http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?id=4286&apos;&gt;Stocks &amp;amp; Shares&lt;/a&gt;
&quot;Success hinges on careful reading of the daily news and correct prediction of their impact on stock prices.&quot;

&lt;a href=&apos;http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?id=2766&apos;&gt;Softporn Adventure&lt;/a&gt;
&quot;the game suffers from a very limiting VERB-NOUN parser that doesn&apos;t understand many obvious synonyms.&quot;

&lt;a href=&apos;http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?id=2939&apos;&gt;Pick Up the Phone Booth and Die&lt;/a&gt;
&quot;The premise is simple: there is a phone booth in front of you. If you pick it up, you will die. What should you do?&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Apr 2004 01:50:02 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: arha</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32219/Home-of-the-Underdogs#649240</link>	
		<description>Interrobang, you can download a replicated version of the original space quest &lt;a href=&quot;http://wiw.org/~jess/replicated.html&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; if you are interested.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Apr 2004 04:33:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: salmacis</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32219/Home-of-the-Underdogs#649315</link>	
		<description>Never thought of mentioning the Underdogs site here. I have 1830 and Advanced Civilization from there. A board game of 1830 takes about 5 hours. I can play it in less than an hour on the PC.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Apr 2004 08:36:42 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: advil</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32219/Home-of-the-Underdogs#649507</link>	
		<description>interrobang: I&apos;ve been having good luck with using &lt;a href=&quot;http://dosbox.sourceforge.net/&quot;&gt;dosbox&lt;/a&gt; to run old dos games on my iBook.  It is an x86 emulator with dos builtin, and runs at about the speed of a 386 on my 700mhz iBook.  You need osx, and dosbox takes a bit of work to install (you need sdl, can get it from fink), but once installed it works fairly well.

With that, all you need is to find a place to get pc versions of the old sierra games.  Such sites do exist (underdogs doesn&apos;t have them though).  Try doing a google search for &quot;sierra classics&quot;.

I&apos;ve had much better luck running really old games using dosbox than either running them in classic mode or on my windows PC.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Apr 2004 12:45:50 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Triplanetary</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32219/Home-of-the-Underdogs#649516</link>	
		<description>This is truly a great site! I found it a few years ago when searching for the excellent game &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?id=506&quot;&gt;Hidden Agenda&lt;/a&gt;. Keep in mind that even if the site has a lot of ads, they don&apos;t pay for the enormous bandwidth it consumes. If you download games from there, please help Sarinee keep the site alive by donating a few bucks through Paypal.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Apr 2004 13:04:15 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: inpHilltr8r</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32219/Home-of-the-Underdogs#649607</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?id=3539&quot;&gt;My first game!&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Apr 2004 15:51:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: linux</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32219/Home-of-the-Underdogs#650177</link>	
		<description>Been visiting that site for years myself.  Actually, I was just there a month ago to snag a copy of 4DPRINCE, as I had just completed Prince of Persia, The Sands of Time, and felt I needed a hit of the original engine.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2004 15:03:30 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>linux</dc:creator>
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