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Only in America! Only on Pay-per-View!

Mick — Fri, 09 Apr 2004 09:36:41 -0800

Guru Vs. Blogger, Friday is Fight Night! A titanic battle of undefined criteria between high-paid (and over-hyped?) gurus and lowly bloggers. Who will win?

By: elpapacito

elpapacito — Fri, 09 Apr 2004 10:47:02 -0800

I think it's a battle between Gurus about Gurus and Gurus about Blogging. Basically an orgy of gurus, without the fun of the orgy.

By: mathowie

mathowie — Fri, 09 Apr 2004 10:49:49 -0800

Is the obvious comment that design gurus are too busy with work and speaking and uh, being gurus to design their personal website? But a better comment would be that I don't consider Wurman, Norman, Nielsen, Merholz, Tog, Tufte, or McGovern visual designers. They work under the giant umbrella of "design" but that doesn't mean they make things pretty on the surface, they're designers in the classic sense: they're problem solvers. It's easy to confuse the art of visual design with all things design-related, but it's a really broad term that people misuse all the time.

By: th3ph17

th3ph17 — Fri, 09 Apr 2004 10:53:35 -0800

errrr...Zeldman isn't on the Guru team? on preview, It's easy to confuse the art of visual design with all things design-related, but it's a really broad term that people misuse all the time. exactly. is this a battle between Designs or their blogs?

By: chunking express

chunking express — Fri, 09 Apr 2004 10:59:19 -0800

The nitty gritty of web layout isn't the most intuitive thing in the world. Knowing what a nice layout is, and knowing how to put a nice layout on the the web, are two different things.

By: chicobangs

chicobangs — Fri, 09 Apr 2004 11:49:55 -0800

How thin, exactly, is the line between designers who blog and bloggers who design?

By: tsarfan

tsarfan — Fri, 09 Apr 2004 12:01:38 -0800

no winners in this sort of deal just losers

By: fenriq

fenriq — Fri, 09 Apr 2004 12:24:19 -0800

I'm not sure I see a point to this. Isn't this just a little word wanking?

By: wigu

wigu — Fri, 09 Apr 2004 12:30:18 -0800

I think "guru" and "blog" are my two least favorite words in the entire Ebonics language.

By: elpapacito

elpapacito — Fri, 09 Apr 2004 13:27:21 -0800

wigu , maybe because guru blog and wigu have 4 letters and you're jealous :) ?

By: Ryvar

Ryvar — Fri, 09 Apr 2004 14:07:10 -0800

blog: just another four-letter word.

By: blasdelf

blasdelf — Fri, 09 Apr 2004 14:08:34 -0800

This seems like a rather biased, ego-stroking, circle-jerk to me...

By: wigu

wigu — Fri, 09 Apr 2004 15:03:11 -0800

But guys this is really important to the people who are involved

By: chicobangs

chicobangs — Fri, 09 Apr 2004 15:23:38 -0800

Oh, no it's not. They all have readerships and constituencies large enough that this is merely a fun exercise, and maybe a tweak of a hint that maybe they could present a slightly improved design face to the world. As much as they may be flattered and/or shamed at being called out, I doubt any of them are losing sleep over it, one way or another. What I see here is professional (or semi-pro, or whatever) geeks messing around, and it looks like they're having fun. Good on them. I wouldn't mind playing someday too, but I'm no guru, not even on the side.

By: dagnyscott

dagnyscott — Mon, 12 Apr 2004 07:05:44 -0800

I agree that Zeldman should be on the guru side, his legendary status far eclipses anything on the front page of his website... but doing so would ruin the preconceived outcome, so it can't be. And criticizing Jakob Nielsen's style is just so old, and pointless since he's pointed out (repeatedly) that he's not a designer.