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	<title>Comments on: Loftcube</title>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2004 17:42:52 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Loftcube</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32378/Loftcube</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.loftcube.net/"&gt;Loftcube.&lt;/a&gt; I saw this in Playboy and had to look it up.  [Flash and music].</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2004 17:39:01 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>oflinkey</dc:creator>		<category>architecture</category>		<category>urbanplanning</category>		<category>housing</category>		<category>rooftop</category>		<category>flash</category>		<category>modular</category>		<category>home</category>
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		<title>By: oflinkey</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32378/Loftcube#652827</link>	
		<description>I am reminded of an article I read some years back in the New York Times magazine.  An author- I have forgotten his name- had  a small workspace built in his backyard.  I can&apos;t find that article, bit I am intrigued by the idea of what Playboy essentially promoted as a treehouse where girls  definitely &lt;em&gt;are&lt;/em&gt; allowed, and what to me looks like a high-end trailer without wheels.</description>
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		<title>By: graventy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32378/Loftcube#652831</link>	
		<description>So, it&apos;s like a post-modern trailer park on top of a building?  Neat idea though, I&apos;d love to have had one while I was in college.  Get a full view of the campus, party, sit in the rooftop swimming pool thing.  Pretty sweet.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2004 17:54:37 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: amberglow</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32378/Loftcube#652837</link>	
		<description>sleek! I&apos;d love to have one of those on my roof. On a related, yet much rougher note, people have been making houses out of &lt;a href=&quot;http://interverse.com/ubb/Forum12/HTML/000040.html&quot;&gt;shipping containers.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2004 18:03:30 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mo Nickels</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32378/Loftcube#652840</link>	
		<description>Looks cool, but I have unanswered questions:

1. Heating and cooling. Where are they? All those windows mean lots of heat in the summer time. The reflective surface of many roofs means lots of heat in the summer time. The space underneath the cube means another surface from which heat will escape in the winter. So temperature control is more important than it might be. 

2. How do you clean those white stones in the shower? Do you just get replacements every month or so, like cat litter?

3. Can they be made to interlock like Legos?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2004 18:09:08 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mr_crash_davis</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32378/Loftcube#652841</link>	
		<description>I don&apos;t think that people who pay top dollar for the penthouse suite are going to much appreciate someone dropping one of these on their roofs.

I mean, if you can plop your little cube on top of the most expensive apartment in the city, someone else is going to put his cube on top of your cube, &lt;i&gt;ad infinitum&lt;/i&gt;.

Right?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2004 18:09:49 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: wendell</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32378/Loftcube#652843</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;someone else is going to put his cube on top of your cube, ad infinitum.&lt;/i&gt;
Then they need to put a warning label on the side of each cube saying &quot;Do not stack more than X high.&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2004 18:17:25 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: thebabelfish</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32378/Loftcube#652844</link>	
		<description>&lt;b&gt;amberglow&lt;/b&gt;, that shipping container link reminded me of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2003/4/3/19455/41933&quot;&gt;this story&lt;/a&gt; on Kuro5hin.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2004 18:17:54 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: MonkeyMeat</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32378/Loftcube#652845</link>	
		<description>Found it in Playboy, eh? &quot;I read it for the hyperlinks!&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2004 18:20:35 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: quam</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32378/Loftcube#652854</link>	
		<description>Where is the toilet?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2004 18:44:39 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: uncanny hengeman</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32378/Loftcube#652856</link>	
		<description>oflinkey, graventy,

that&apos;s the very first thing I thought of, too. Just a really cleverly marketed trailer (we call &apos;em caravans in Oz!).

A few years ago in Australia, it was suggested that prisoners be housed in refurbished shipping containers to alleviate overcrowded prisons in some areas.

An &quot;uproar&quot; ensued. Prisoner rights groups and various lobbyists were against it. But funnily enough (as far as I can tell) there wasn&apos;t much substance to their arguments. I mean, they were gonna put windows and air conditioning in the bloody things.

Their pathetic arguments were kinda like &quot;you can&apos;t house prisoners in shipping containers coz it&apos;s... erm... just gross! You just can&apos;t, OK!!&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2004 18:47:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rafter</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32378/Loftcube#652858</link>	
		<description>Wait. So did I miss the toilet?

And no privacy is offered to guests, right? You just gotta buck up and shower out in the open (and let&apos;s hope your roof access is restricted and that yours is the highest roof on the block!)

Also, no storage space to speak of.

Cool as hell though. Definitely.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2004 18:51:03 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: amberglow</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32378/Loftcube#652860</link>	
		<description>interesting story, thebabelfish--but i&apos;d live in a few, cantilevered and stationary, with windows punched out.  : &amp;gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2004 18:54:42 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Witty</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32378/Loftcube#652879</link>	
		<description>I would expect that the roof in question would need to be ABLE to accept the new weight something this would obviously bring.  The website presents these things as though every rooftop in a given city is available.  I just don&apos;t think that&apos;s at all the case.

I think the designer&apos;s have their spirits headed in the right direction.  But I can&apos;t see this idea really taking off.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2004 19:47:02 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: erisfree</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32378/Loftcube#652907</link>	
		<description>batteries and port-a-toilet sold separately?  (meh, i&apos;d still want one)</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2004 20:39:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mwhybark</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32378/Loftcube#652923</link>	
		<description>allow me to be the first to scream in horror and dismay.

AAAAHHHHGGHHH

OK, consider this: cheaply manufactured + rooftop pool = disaster in the works, for starters.

If pod homes are your jones, wotabout &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.escapeartist.com/efam17/Nomadic_Housing.html&quot;&gt;container condos&lt;/a&gt;? I think there was a different yet similar link &lt;i&gt;right around here&lt;/i&gt; somewhere, but I&apos;ve misplaced it amid the detritus of 75 years of misguided millenarian podvisions of the architectural future. My bad.

Maybe I&apos;m too married to the dumpster, or something. Good link, tho&apos;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2004 21:24:37 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mwhybark</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32378/Loftcube#652924</link>	
		<description>D&apos;oh. Missed amberglow&apos;s similar link. Add it to my tab, barkeep.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2004 21:26:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: benstewart</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32378/Loftcube#652934</link>	
		<description>I, for one, wouldn&apos;t mind (temporarily) living in one of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.archmedia.com.au/aa/aaissue.php?issueid=200109&amp;article=11&amp;typeon=2&quot;&gt;these&lt;/a&gt; refurbished shipping containers. :)</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2004 21:39:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: majcher</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32378/Loftcube#652946</link>	
		<description>This has been floating around the usual channels for a while, but I recently saw it again in ReadyMade, or Dwell, or one of those hipster living magazines.  Anyway, what caught my eye this time was not the overpriced designer roof-trailer, but the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.majcher.com/img/loftcube-dancers.jpg&quot;&gt;giant dancing people&lt;/a&gt; on the other side of the river in the background.  (You can juuuust barely see them on the loftcube site.)

After a fair amount of searching, my lady friend finally tracked it down - it&apos;s a sculpture called &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.borofsky.com/public/moleculeman%5Bgermany%5D/index.html&quot;&gt;Molecule Man&lt;/a&gt;, by Jonathan Borofsky.  He has quite the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.borofsky.com/public.htm&quot;&gt;portfolio&lt;/a&gt; of amazing work like this one.  Anyway, just thought I&apos;d share.

&lt;small&gt;/me throws away a perfectly good front page post...&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2004 22:16:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: triv</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32378/Loftcube#652998</link>	
		<description>i&apos;m deeply shocked by this link.

i mean, does anyone still &lt;i&gt;read&lt;/i&gt; playboy?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2004 02:28:22 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: cmacleod</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32378/Loftcube#653000</link>	
		<description>Look in any community in Taiwan,  maybe other Chinese communities outside Singapore as well, and you will see the same thing. Albeit without all the design. I see tin shacks on many many roof tops around here.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2004 02:45:45 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: SpaceCadet</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32378/Loftcube#653001</link>	
		<description>Wouldn&apos;t this encourage wacko city snipers? How many crosshairs pointed at the lit-up condo on the roof?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2004 03:11:05 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: quasistoic</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32378/Loftcube#653008</link>	
		<description>I&apos;d like to see it withstand ONE hurricane season in Florida.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2004 04:55:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Civil_Disobedient</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32378/Loftcube#653043</link>	
		<description>I didn&apos;t see the electrical or water hook-ups, either.  But as for privacy concerns, I think you need to remember two things: first, you can always install curtains or blinds.  Second, this is targetted at &quot;passionate individuals.&quot;  If you&apos;re not passionate enough to handle exposing yourself to the world from 45 floors up, maybe you shouldn&apos;t be living in a loftcube.

As for the &quot;social&quot; aspects of the loftcube that were suggested on their website, I must give a hefty scoff.  First of all, you don&apos;t want to be playing volleyball, or any -ball activity on the top of a roof.  Some asshat spikes the ball and suddenly you&apos;ve got to replace the guy&apos;s windshield who made the mistake of parking in front of the building.

Second, and perhaps more important, mixing alcohol and high, exposed places is a recipe for disaster.  I&apos;m sure your  &quot;passionate&quot; friends won&apos;t scrape off the pavement after taking a spill over the edge any easier than us more skeptical folk.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2004 07:22:14 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kliuless</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32378/Loftcube#653078</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;targetted at &quot;passionate individuals&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

definately a &quot;shag pad&quot; :D what&apos;s neat i think is they&apos;d complement very well &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ajc.com/news/content/business/horizon/0404/05roof.html&quot;&gt;roof gardens&lt;/a&gt;! [more &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.greenroofs.com/newslinks.htm&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; :]

also, btw, the loftcube reminded me of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bbcamerica.com/genre/home_living/homefront_in_the_garden/hfseries5/homefront_garden_s5_episode06.jsp&quot;&gt;this episode&lt;/a&gt; of diarmuid gavin&apos;s homefront in the garden!</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2004 09:03:13 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: crunchland</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32378/Loftcube#653089</link>	
		<description>Diarmuid Gavin is a genius.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2004 09:55:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mrbula</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32378/Loftcube#653091</link>	
		<description>Kind of reminded me of this: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.startribune.com/stories/418/4060416.html&quot;&gt;Little cube on the prairie&lt;/a&gt;.  (There&apos;s a photo halfway down on the right.)</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2004 10:03:48 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Blue Stone</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32378/Loftcube#653105</link>	
		<description>&amp;gt; Wait. So did I miss the toilet?

Dual-use plant pot?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2004 11:00:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Geo</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32378/Loftcube#653111</link>	
		<description>There&apos;s a whole community of people living in shipping containers in Aki Kaurism&#228;ki&apos;s memorable film, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/search?q=Man+Without+Past+Shipping&quot;&gt;The Man Without a Past&lt;/a&gt; (Mies vailla menneisyytt&#228;). I&apos;d pay extra for the one with the sea view.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2004 11:19:36 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: leotrotsky</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32378/Loftcube#653114</link>	
		<description>saw this in &lt;a href=&quot;www.dwellmag.com &quot;&gt;dwell&lt;/a&gt; a couple of issues ago. Very nifty concept: I&apos;d much rather a little place with a great view and open air than any of the other city alternatives. But how do you even go about renting roofspace? Anybody?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2004 11:50:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: leotrotsky</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32378/Loftcube#653115</link>	
		<description>uh, that&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dwellmag.com&quot;&gt;dwell&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2004 11:52:19 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: leotrotsky</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32378/Loftcube#653121</link>	
		<description>also, I&apos;ve got a question on this over at &lt;a href=&quot;http://ask.metafilter.com/mefi/6456&quot;&gt;AskMe&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2004 12:04:33 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nix</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32378/Loftcube#653138</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fabprefab.com/&quot;&gt;fabprefab&lt;/a&gt;: great site and newsletter that keeps up on all this kind of stuff</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2004 13:44:42 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: furiousthought</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32378/Loftcube#653286</link>	
		<description>Cool, now I can be yuppie &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0165798/&quot; title=&quot;This is one of those films that is overlooked, interesting, and really flawed.&quot;&gt;Ghost Dog&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2004 23:03:14 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>furiousthought</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: mecran01</title>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt; I am reminded of an article I read some years back in the New York Times magazine. An author- I have forgotten his name.&lt;/i&gt;

Stewart Brand, author of &lt;i&gt;How Buildings Learn.&lt;/i&gt;

Great little-known book.  My copy is missing.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2004 10:30:39 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>mecran01</dc:creator>
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