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	<title>Comments on: Vitamins</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2004 11:10:24 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Vitamins</title>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Vitamin dosage &lt;/strong&gt;is a much debated issue.  Is there any real difference between the minimal and the optimal?  There are the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fda.gov/fdac/special/foodlabel/dvs.html&quot;&gt;public &lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.crnusa.org/about_recs3.html&quot;&gt;standards&lt;/a&gt;, and then there are &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/2004/03/02/are_rda_nutrient_levels_safe.htm&quot;&gt;other perspectives&lt;/a&gt;.  Given the potential impact on public health as new RDIs are adopted, what do you think we should take?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2004 10:52:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: callmejay</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32405/Vitamins#653439</link>	
		<description>I don&apos;t know from minimal vs. optimal but please be aware that for certain vitamins which aren&apos;t water-soluble, for example Vitamins A and B6, too much can cause serious health problems.  It&apos;s also important to note that many of the foods we eat already have vitamins artificially added or naturally occurring.</description>
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		<title>By: stbalbach</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32405/Vitamins#653450</link>	
		<description>I&apos;ve been taking Cod Liver Oil which is high in A and D (fat soluble) at doses 3 to 4 times the RDA. Never had a problem. Native cultures such as Eskimos who maintain native diets eat 10 to 15 times the RDA of A and D and they don&apos;t have most of the chronic health problems we have. Indeed &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.westonaprice.org/nutrition_guidelines/nutrition_vitaminD.html&quot;&gt;Dr Weston Price&lt;/a&gt; found that all native cultures of the world that have robust health shared one common trait and that is a diet very high in Vitamin A and D. 

Also note that Vitamin A from carrots and other vegetables is not the same as Vitamin A in animal products. The FDA calls it the same thing but they are different chemicals.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2004 11:32:18 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: aramaic</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32405/Vitamins#653481</link>	
		<description>I forget who said it, but someone once characterized the Western world this way: &quot;they&apos;ve got the most expensive urine in the world&quot;

...much of the vitamins ingested in single megadoses will simply pass straight through the body. Dosage over time is usually the important factor, not mere dosage.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2004 12:21:57 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: badstone</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32405/Vitamins#653483</link>	
		<description>the truth is starting to out about the dangers of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99994853&quot;&gt;supplements&lt;/a&gt;, though...</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2004 12:25:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kablam</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32405/Vitamins#653608</link>	
		<description>Eventually, there is going to have to be a gigantic database of medical treatments and effects.  Everything, the whole nine yards:  nutrition, pharmacopeia, exercise, body type, age/sex/race-genetic factors; along with alternative medical treatments; toxic agents and risk factors, etc., almost without end.

And then, a person will have to plug in their own database of a complete medical history, plus current blood, urine, stool, DNA, and scans (x-ray/CAT/MRI) *into* the main database, AND THEN we will start really learning what&apos;s going on.

With an embryonic version of such a system in place, using just Doctors and Nurses, in huge studies, the AMA has discovered incredible things.

And every time something totally &lt;a href=&quot;http://tinyurl.com/33euv&quot;&gt;unexpected&lt;/a&gt; comes along...</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2004 16:19:54 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: biffa</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32405/Vitamins#653659</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Native cultures such as Eskimos who maintain native diets eat 10 to 15 times the RDA of A and D and they don&apos;t have most of the chronic health problems we have. &lt;/em&gt;

That doesn&apos;t really suggest causality does it, it could simply mean that they&apos;re not stuffing themselves with lard, sugar and shite every day of the year.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2004 17:34:46 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: stavrosthewonderchicken</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32405/Vitamins#653889</link>	
		<description>I have nothing like a rational answer to this, but I genuinely feel better when I take large doses of C and B complex. This may be a placebo effect, but that&apos;s fine with me.

This is because to a degree I subscribe to the idea that one&apos;s state of mind has a strong effect (in the absence of serious malady, perhaps) on one&apos;s physical wellbeing (or lack thereof). If I feel well, even through a placebo effect, I think I will actually be more well, again, in the absence of illness.

This is very close to airy-fairy handwaving, I am aware. But it works for me.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2004 23:40:22 -0800</pubDate>
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