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	<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2004 16:09:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>The Passion of the Painters</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.uni-leipzig.de/ru/bilder/passion1/index.htm"&gt;Thema: Passion&lt;/a&gt; Very good German site with depictions of the Passion of the Christ in the history of the art, from &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.uni-leipzig.de/ru/bilder/passion1/greco03.jpg&quot;&gt;El Greco 
&lt;/a&gt; to  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.uni-leipzig.de/ru/bilder/passion3/messin01.jpg&quot;&gt;Antonello da Messina&lt;/a&gt;, from &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.uni-leipzig.de/ru/bilder/passion2/guerci02.jpg&quot;&gt;Il Guercino
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to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.uni-leipzig.de/ru/bilder/passion1/bottic01.jpg&quot;&gt;Botticelli&lt;/a&gt;. And there also, among many others, 
 &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.uni-leipzig.de/ru/bilder/passion1/b3-15.jpg&quot;&gt;Rembrandt&lt;/a&gt;
and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.uni-leipzig.de/ru/bilder/passion3/schiel01.jpg&quot;&gt;Schiele&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.uni-leipzig.de/ru/bilder/passion3/rubens01.jpg&quot;&gt;Rubens&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.uni-leipzig.de/ru/bilder/passion4/carava01.jpg&quot;&gt;Caravaggio&lt;/a&gt;
Plenty of other good links &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.uni-leipzig.de/ru/themen.htm&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. As &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hup.harvard.edu/itatti/villa_berenson.html&quot;&gt;Bernard Berenson&lt;/a&gt; wrote, &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ljhammond.com/phlit/2002-07b.htm#3&quot;&gt;A painter&apos;s first business is to rouse the tactile sense&lt;/a&gt;, for I must have the illusion... &lt;small&gt; (more inside)&lt;small&gt;&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2004 15:55:24 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>matteo</dc:creator>		<category>art</category>		<category>artists</category>		<category>passionofthechrist</category>		<category>passion</category>		<category>religiousart</category>		<category>elgreco</category>		<category>damessina</category>		<category>ilguercino</category>		<category>botticelli</category>		<category>rembrandt</category>		<category>schiele</category>		<category>rubens</category>		<category>caravaggio</category>		<category>bernardberenson</category>
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		<title>By: matteo</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32445/The-Passion-of-the-Painters#654356</link>	
		<description>... of being able to touch a figure, I must have the illusion of varying muscular sensations inside my palm and fingers corresponding to the various projections of this figure, before I shall take it for granted as real, and let it affect me lastingly&quot;. I mean, it&apos;s hard not to be affected &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.philamuseum.org/collections/newacq-remb.shtml&quot;&gt;by this kind of art&lt;/a&gt;, isn&apos;t it?
As &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newyorker.com/critics/art/?031110craw_artworld&quot;&gt;Peter Schjeldal wrote in the New Yorker&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;em&gt;What interests Rembrandt in works about Jesus is how other people react to the god-man. The apocalyptic drypoint &quot;Christ Crucified Between Two Thieves&quot; (1653), seen in three versions in the show, conveys Rembrandt&apos;s wondering sense of Christianity: the sacrifice of Jesus dropped like a bomb into history, blowing everything askew. In several pictures, he envisions Jesus dead&#8212;for example, the limp, heavy body being lowered, with difficulty, from the Cross. Corpses are inconvenient objects. The sight of this one tests belief. Did Rembrandt believe? I think so, but it seems to be the enigma&#8212;the fantastic, sheer improbability&#8212;of Christ that excited him.&lt;/em&gt;
My personal favorite? &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ibiblio.org/wm/paint/auth/mantegna/&quot;&gt;Mantegna&lt;/a&gt;&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://digilander.libero.it/veneziacinquecento/immagini/archivio/mantegna001.jpg&quot;&gt;Cristo Morto&lt;/a&gt;
More links on same topic &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.catholic-forum.com/saints/gallery12.htm&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: matteo</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32445/The-Passion-of-the-Painters#654357</link>	
		<description>&lt;small&gt; of course I planned to post this on Good Friday, but life is strange, something happened and I couldn&apos;t make it -- wanna make God laugh, tell Her your plans, right?
&lt;small&gt;&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2004 16:10:32 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: matteo</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32445/The-Passion-of-the-Painters#654386</link>	
		<description>other pages (&lt;em&gt;mit&lt;/em&gt; thumbnails) from the main German site are &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.uni-leipzig.de/ru/bilder/passion2/index.htm&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.uni-leipzig.de/ru/bilder/passion3/index.htm&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.uni-leipzig.de/ru/bilder/passion4/index.htm&quot;&gt;here &lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2004 16:35:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: matteo</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32445/The-Passion-of-the-Painters#654409</link>	
		<description>if you look at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.uni-leipzig.de/ru/bilder/passion3/rubens01.jpg&quot;&gt;Rubens&apos; Jesus&lt;/a&gt;, you see exactly &lt;a href=&quot;http://books.guardian.co.uk/review/story/0,12084,1183497,00.html&quot;&gt;Jonathan Jones&apos; point&lt;/a&gt; when he writes that 
&lt;em&gt;there is something gooey, organic, membraneous to Rubens. He is stereotyped as the painter of rolling flesh, and so he is. But it is what Rubens does to flesh, the agonies and torments and delights to which he subjects naked men and women, that sends you out of Lille&apos;s Palais des Beaux-Arts with a touch of the vapours.
Most of all it is the colour he finds in flesh that sticks in the brain. Grey, blue, green, yellow - Rubens sees European skin in just about every colour except pink. If people are white, they are white like a star. Sometimes they are golden. More often they are particoloured ruddy tapestries. And quite a lot of the time, they are an unhealthy olive.
Rubens, this genius of living flesh, is simultaneously - and necessarily, in order to describe what life is - preoccupied by the appearance of death in the body. Death is one of his great subjects. &lt;/em&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2004 17:14:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nomis</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32445/The-Passion-of-the-Painters#654410</link>	
		<description>This is great stuff matteo - thanks!</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2004 17:14:39 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: poopy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32445/The-Passion-of-the-Painters#654422</link>	
		<description>thanks! rubens is one of my favorites and i couldn&apos;t agree more with jones&apos; interpretation of color. god, what vivid paintings!

your post reminded me of bernini&apos;s famous &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.boglewood.com/cornaro/xteresa.html&quot;&gt;The Ecstasy of S. Teresa di Avila&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2004 17:31:30 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ColdChef</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32445/The-Passion-of-the-Painters#654566</link>	
		<description>Very nice. Thank you.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2004 20:55:39 -0800</pubDate>
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