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	<title>Comments on: Glass in the Roman World</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2004 07:10:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Glass in the Roman World</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://brunelleschi.imss.fi.it/vitrum/"&gt;Vitrum: Glass Between Art and Science in the Roman World&lt;/a&gt; , an exhibition hosted by the Institute and Museum of the History of Science in Florence, describes the use of glass in different areas of Roman life: &lt;a href=&quot;http://brunelleschi.imss.fi.it/vitrum/esez1.html&quot;&gt;technology&lt;/a&gt;,&lt;a href=&quot;http://brunelleschi.imss.fi.it/vitrum/esez2.html&quot;&gt; daily life&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://brunelleschi.imss.fi.it/vitrum/esez3.html&quot;&gt;architecture&lt;/a&gt;, and &lt;a href=&quot;http://brunelleschi.imss.fi.it/vitrum/esez4.html&quot;&gt;science&lt;/a&gt;. Each of the items in the themed galleries is linked to a large, high-resolution image; some beautiful examples of 2000-year-old glass include:

a &lt;a href=&quot;http://brunelleschi.imss.fi.it/vitrum/isez3_19z.html&quot;&gt;decorative glass hexagon&lt;/a&gt;,  

a &lt;a href=&quot;http://brunelleschi.imss.fi.it/vitrum/isez1_27z.html&quot;&gt;blue glass cup from pompeii&lt;/a&gt;, and

a &lt;a href=&quot;http://brunelleschi.imss.fi.it/vitrum/isez1_44z.html&quot;&gt;striped mosaic glass cup&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2004 07:00:54 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>carter</dc:creator>		<category>glass</category>		<category>artglass</category>		<category>ancientrome</category>		<category>roman</category>		<category>antiquities</category>		<category>archaeology</category>
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		<title>By: Ethereal Bligh</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32559/Glass-in-the-Roman-World#656881</link>	
		<description>Incidentally, these ancient artifacts disprove the folk wisdom that glows &quot;flows&quot; or &quot;sags&quot; in old windows.  If glass could visibly sag in a mere 150 years; then how could these 2000 year old specimens be anything other than puddles?  The bottom line: glass does not &quot;flow&quot; in human timescales.  As to whether or not glass could be properly called a &quot;liquid&quot;, that is a question of nomenclature and various disciplines disagree on it.  Materials Scientists, however, do &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; consider glass a &quot;liquid&quot;.

These are wonderful, wonderful links and I beg forgiveness if in any way this comment derails the thread.  Something about the post, though, made me think someone, somehow, somewhere, would comment on glass being a &quot;liquid&quot; and I thought I&apos;d stop that nonsense in its tracks.  If someone wants to argue about it, please just email me or something.</description>
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		<title>By: dorian</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32559/Glass-in-the-Roman-World#656892</link>	
		<description>those are some amazing pieces, and the hi-res links are even more spectacular. funny how we get most of this stuff as the result of cities being destroyed yet preserved -- I think pompeii is one of the most interesting places on earth (but herculaneum I found very boring for some reason...)

(nb: sorta-self-linkage)
&lt;a href=&quot;http://metmuseum.org/toah/hd/rgls/hd_rgls.htm&quot; title=&quot;roman glass&quot;&gt;glass&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://metmuseum.org/toah/hd/rcam/hd_rcam.htm&quot; title=&quot;cameo glass&quot;&gt;glass&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://metmuseum.org/toah/hd/rgld/hd_rgld.htm&quot; title=&quot;gold band glass&quot;&gt;glass&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://metmuseum.org/toah/hd/rlux/hd_rlux.htm&quot; title=&quot;luxury glass&quot;&gt;glass&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://metmuseum.org/toah/hd/rmold/hd_rmold.htm&quot; title=&quot;mold blown glass&quot;&gt;glass&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://metmuseum.org/toah/hd/rmos/hd_rmos.htm&quot; title=&quot;mosaic glass&quot;&gt;glass&lt;/a&gt;, and lastly, &lt;a href=&quot;http://metmuseum.org/toah/hi/hi_glas.htm&quot; title=&quot;lots of glass&quot;&gt;glass&lt;/a&gt;!

no argument against the state of glass here (bottom of pane thicker == result of early mfgr technique); but the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.physics.uq.edu.au/pitchdrop/pitchdrop.shtml&quot; title=&quot;mmm, sticky&quot;&gt;pitch-drop&lt;/a&gt; experiment is pretty neat.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2004 07:55:05 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bingo</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32559/Glass-in-the-Roman-World#656893</link>	
		<description>I love &lt;a href=&quot;http://brunelleschi.imss.fi.it/vitrum/esez4_21.html&quot;&gt;this one&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;Roman glassware provides some of the best available &lt;a href=&quot;http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/General/Glass/glass.html&quot;&gt;evidence &lt;/a&gt;that types of soda-lime glass are not fluid, even after nearly 2000 years.&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2004 07:58:18 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: 12345</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32559/Glass-in-the-Roman-World#657113</link>	
		<description>Carter: A pint of bitter 
Carter: in a thin glass!

great links!

i would agree that most windows that are thick on the bottom are thick because of manufacturing, but ancient glassware has done little to the flowing glass argument.  A thin heavily leaded glass pane on it&apos;s edge in the sun is what is rumored to flow visibly within 150 years.

bingo: that one is amazing, what do you think his expression is of?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2004 00:06:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ethereal Bligh</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32559/Glass-in-the-Roman-World#657132</link>	
		<description>Yeah, except it doesn&apos;t happen.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2004 03:24:56 -0800</pubDate>
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