On preview: The first step is admitting you have a problem.
From a MeFite who has gone longer wihtout admitting a mistake than Dubya... :)
Then again, I have no idea why I find mr_crash_davis amusing... but I do! posted by wendell at 5:00 PM on April 18, 2004
That was great. As a classic Shatnerophile Trekkie, I declare that this has now displaced YTMND as best website ever. posted by brownpau at 5:02 PM on April 18, 2004
Why does Kirk shout at Khan? I mean, Khan has just tell him he'll bury him alive in the center of a dead planet. But Kirk knows that the Enterprise is secretly in good shape, and will be able to beam him up in a few minutes. Is he just upset that all those scientists were vaporized?
I thought this was a good time to address these questions. posted by inksyndicate at 10:43 PM on April 18, 2004
I think I would have to rewatch the immediately proceeding scenes to really come to an answer, but I don't remember it seeming out of place in the movie. Any more than any melodramatic scream would be, that is. Perhaps it is sheer anger, and frustration at not being able to reach him, at having just lost the powerful Genesis device - and perhaps Kirk isn't so sure about the ship. Though he knows the repairs will only take hours, Khan's ship is still in better condition. posted by jb at 11:59 PM on April 18, 2004
Khan is Kirk's nemesis (in the Aristotelian sense): he is the anti-Kirk. That's why he shouts, and that's why we remember it. Whatever the events might be, they don't matter that much; whatever Kahn does will bring Kirk to the anvil.
Knowing this, though, doesn't guarantee a successful play, or even a successful Star Trek flick.
jb -- that's true, he has just lost the Genesis device, as well as seeing his man Chekov tortured by the Ceti Eel, and respected Starfleet Captain Terrell turned into atoms. As far as he knows, the Russian will never get his sanity back.
It really is the best movie ever filmed. posted by inksyndicate at 1:34 AM on April 19, 2004
I just want to state for the record that this thread is frying Google's brains. I'm pretty sure it'll show up as the first link on every single Google search from now on. posted by tippiedog at 9:03 AM on April 19, 2004
Get that capital q outta there right quick, wendell, afore the sherff comes by an' catches you with it... posted by languagehat at 12:32 PM on April 19, 2004
For the record, that was an artistic judgement on my part, to remanl consistant with the capitalization of the rest of the thread, and I stand by it. Go ahead. Call me out to MetaTalk. I dare you.
and the Commish scores a rare triple-pun, with internal cross-references to boot! I'm telling you Ted, this kid has not lost a single step! posted by yhbc at 6:28 PM on April 19, 2004
awww commish, thanks for caring. *sniff* posted by t r a c y at 7:42 PM on April 19, 2004
This was worse than that "pike" thread. posted by interrobang at 11:07 PM on April 19, 2004
This thread was far more entertaining than the original link. posted by jaden at 11:43 PM on April 19, 2004
Now, see, if this were real life and not the Internet, I'd be cracking you all up with my knock-'em-dead impression of Ricardo Montalban taking over the "United Starship Plymouth Reliant--with seats of finest Corinthian leather." But since it's a. the Internet and b. not all that funny, I got nothin'.
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