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	<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2004 11:27:41 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>minutiae from an at-home dad in manhattan</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://citypop.blogspot.com"&gt;Citypop&apos;s&lt;/a&gt; a stay-at-home dad in New York City. While his medical resident wife grinds out &lt;a href=&quot;http://citypop.blogspot.com/archives/2003_06_29_citypop_archive.html#105733147400612575&quot;&gt;80 hour weeks&lt;/a&gt;, he narrates the hurdles (&lt;a href=&quot;http://citypop.blogspot.com/archives/2003_06_08_citypop_archive.html#105534412236593056&quot;&gt;botched circumcision&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://citypop.blogspot.com/archives/2003_07_27_citypop_archive.html#105942058334787509&quot;&gt;apartment fire&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://citypop.blogspot.com/archives/2003_06_01_citypop_archive.html#95285525&quot;&gt;roach invasions&lt;/a&gt;) of raising a boy in the strange universe of Manhattan&apos;s Upper East Side.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2004 11:16:29 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mayor Curley</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32613/minutiae-from-an-athome-dad-in-manhattan#658288</link>	
		<description>My life is not terribly interesting. But it&apos;s not so uninteresting that I want to read about the mundanities of some other person&apos;s life.

He thinks that his kid and his parenting experiences are so remarkable that we want to read about them. Must be a Baby Boomer to be that self-absorbed.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2004 11:27:41 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: chicobangs</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32613/minutiae-from-an-athome-dad-in-manhattan#658296</link>	
		<description>Sometimes another boring life is more interesting than yours, even if only because it&apos;s not yours.

What&apos;s the line? It won&apos;t be better but I&apos;d settle for different.

Them&apos;s blogs for you. (I probably won&apos;t visit him regularly, but I&apos;d understand people who might.)</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2004 11:35:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: konolia</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32613/minutiae-from-an-athome-dad-in-manhattan#658300</link>	
		<description>It&apos;s always cool to pop into someone else&apos;s life for a bit.

It isn&apos;t like he is charging  you for it, after all.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2004 11:39:24 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: the fire you left me</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32613/minutiae-from-an-athome-dad-in-manhattan#658313</link>	
		<description>Stay-at-home Dad. . .tsk.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2004 11:51:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: geoff.</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32613/minutiae-from-an-athome-dad-in-manhattan#658321</link>	
		<description>This is an interestin social commentary on the feminization of the male. Or something. Not that it&apos;s a bad thing but this guy seems like a fruit. And I say that in the nicest way possible:

&lt;i&gt;He had been half asleep, when a four-inch water bug crawled up the wall of his room. Eew, eew, EEW!&lt;/i&gt;

Hist constant obsessing of his son is cute, but really, really motherly:

&lt;i&gt;File one more entry in the Almost Killed Him folder. &lt;/i&gt;

It&apos;s interesting as probably most dad&apos;s either internalize such things are just are too John Wayne to care. I don&apos;t really know what to say or what judgement to pass, as I haven&apos;t gone through but a few entries yet. But to anyone else does this seem as &quot;off&quot; behavior?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2004 12:07:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: crunchburger</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32613/minutiae-from-an-athome-dad-in-manhattan#658330</link>	
		<description>Invasion of the baby blogs...this is the future of weblogging. They&apos;ve already got defective yeti....</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2004 12:19:19 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dejah420</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32613/minutiae-from-an-athome-dad-in-manhattan#658350</link>	
		<description>I think it&apos;s great that he&apos;s good with being a stay at home dad.  My husband and I decided that one of us would stay home with our son until he was old enough to start school.  We&apos;d both been laid off while I was pregnant, and after he was born, my husband got the highest paying offer, so off to work he went.  I&apos;m sure he&apos;d rather stay home...and to be honest, after a year and a half, I&apos;m ready to get back to the salt mines...so I&apos;m in quest of a job that pays equal or more to his salary, and we&apos;ll switch.  

As to babyblogs, every parent I know who has a blog posts stuff about their kids.  It&apos;s a huge part of our lives, and most of the time, the blogs aren&apos;t written for anonymous viewers...they&apos;re written as though they were baby books, and they&apos;re written for friends and family who happen to think that hip, cool, naked, white, ray charles baby, is funny.  (You probably had to be there...)

My point is, it&apos;s easy to be condescending when you still party all night and sleep till noon...but for those of us on the 5 am teething train, sometimes getting it out in a journal, even one that happens to be accessible to the world, is what keeps us sane.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2004 12:52:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: headspace</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32613/minutiae-from-an-athome-dad-in-manhattan#658365</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;This is an interestin social commentary on the feminization of the male. Or something. Not that it&apos;s a bad thing but this guy seems like a fruit.&lt;/i&gt;

Trust me, when there&apos;s a nasty-ass bug crawling near your baby, every primal revulsion node in your brain goes off at once. I&apos;m not a &quot;girly&quot; girl (I kept tarantulas as a teenager,) but the day I saw an ant crawling on my newborn&apos;s face turned me into a shrieking freak until I got it off and slaughtered it for daring to invade my baby&apos;s space.  

Rationally? It&apos;s just an ant. They&apos;re not even particularly dirty, this was a suburb-variety, non-biting ant (the kind that I let her play with in the yard, now that she&apos;s a toddler,) but the response is an irrational need to protect the baby, not a rational evaluation of the situation.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2004 13:28:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mayor Curley</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32613/minutiae-from-an-athome-dad-in-manhattan#658376</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;My point is, it&apos;s easy to be condescending when you still party all night and sleep till noon.&lt;/i&gt;

Or even if you go to sleep after the ballgame and get up at 6 AM to go to work.

Everyone seems to disagree with me and insist that reading about someone else&apos;s parenting is worthwhile. I guess I just won&apos;t understand until I become a parent and then become convinced that I&apos;m a cross between God, Superman and Michelangelo for having functioning testes.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2004 13:48:55 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dejah420</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32613/minutiae-from-an-athome-dad-in-manhattan#658393</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Everyone seems to disagree with me and insist that reading about someone else&apos;s parenting is worthwhile.&lt;/em&gt;

Na, I&apos;m not disagreeing with you.  I can&apos;t imagine why anyone who doesn&apos;t actually know the boy would want to read about his exploits.  But when I write stuff about the boy, I&apos;m not doing it for anyone but me...if nobody reads it, I don&apos;t care.  

That&apos;s my point, is that most babyblogs aren&apos;t written to entertain...they&apos;re written as journals to track progress, just like the baby books your mom had.  (Trust me, your mom has one...all moms have them...it&apos;s weird.)  

The difference between baby books and babyblogs is that blogs allow other parents to connect...and compare and talk about things that none of our non-breeder friends want to hear about.  

Yeah, it&apos;s not Proust...but it&apos;s not like it&apos;s obligatory for you to read it either.   :)</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2004 14:13:30 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mayor Curley</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32613/minutiae-from-an-athome-dad-in-manhattan#658403</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;but it&apos;s not like it&apos;s obligatory for you to read it either.&lt;/i&gt;

I can&apos;t argue with that! (Unless the Red Brigade kidnapped my mom and forced me to as a condition of her return, or something.)</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2004 14:24:25 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tracicle</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32613/minutiae-from-an-athome-dad-in-manhattan#658443</link>	
		<description>I won&apos;t just read any boring parenting story, but I think this guy writes well and actually has some cool ideas for parents to teach their toddler -- some of which I might try myself.  So you&apos;re not a parent or you don&apos;t like kids (or both), find a blog that talks about how great it is &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; to be a parent.  Oh wait, there are like ten thousand of those, idiot blogs about how wasted so-and-so got last night.

I write about what my son does so I don&apos;t forget, years from now, how cute or frustrating or frightening he was.  I write it for myself.  Just like this guy probably does.

So pretty much what dejah said, really.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2004 15:22:16 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mayor Curley</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32613/minutiae-from-an-athome-dad-in-manhattan#658463</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;find a blog that talks about how great it is not to be a parent ... idiot blogs about how wasted so-and-so got last night.&lt;/i&gt;

Because if I&apos;m not a parent, I&apos;m an irresponsible 24-hour party person? I assure you that&apos;s not the case. I&apos;ve done a lot of extra work over the years because of co-workers who felt the same smug sense of entitlement that you do, tracicle.

Literally billions of people have raised children. Stop thinking that you&apos;re doing anything that a mouse, blue jay or wildebeest can&apos;t do equally well. Your child is a source of joy to you and perhaps your parents. Everyone else is secretly pretty indifferent, just like you are to other people&apos;s kids.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2004 16:03:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: konolia</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32613/minutiae-from-an-athome-dad-in-manhattan#658466</link>	
		<description>Mayor Curley, think of it as shoptalk.  My husband&apos;s a realtor, and when they get together it&apos;s all about what&apos;s happening with interest rates. Booooorrrrriinnnggg. 

When I homeschooled, I was always interested to read books and articles by other homeschoolers about their typical days.  I gleaned lots of tips, plus to me it was interesting simply because I was doing the same thing. 

Trust me, when you have a child, you will be totally fascinated by the most mundane stuff. You don&apos;t believe me, go read dooce.com. (I defy you to find HER blog boring. And these days, it&apos;s all about the Leta.)</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2004 16:13:05 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tracicle</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32613/minutiae-from-an-athome-dad-in-manhattan#659125</link>	
		<description>I didn&apos;t mean to imply that non-parents are all irresponsible party-people (maybe it&apos;s more that sometimes I wish I was :).  I do think that what parents do is more than a mouse, blue jay or wildebeest can.  Can a baby blue jay grow up to change the world?

Much as it bugs me when people say, &quot;Oh, you don&apos;t &lt;i&gt;have&lt;/i&gt; to read it, you know,&quot; that&apos;s what it comes down to.  Right?</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2004 15:57:32 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Feisty</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32613/minutiae-from-an-athome-dad-in-manhattan#659244</link>	
		<description>This dad should hook up with &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.whoisthatwithjeremy.com/_wsn/page2.html&quot;&gt;Jeremy&apos;s dad&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2004 18:45:56 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Civil_Disobedient</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32613/minutiae-from-an-athome-dad-in-manhattan#659246</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;I guess I just won&apos;t understand until I become a parent and then become convinced that I&apos;m a cross between God, Superman and Michelangelo for having functioning testes.&lt;/i&gt;

Nice!</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2004 18:48:39 -0800</pubDate>
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