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	<title>Comments on: not so junk DNA</title>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2004 23:32:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>not so junk DNA</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33063/not-so-junk-DNA</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3703935.stm"&gt;not so junk DNA&lt;/a&gt; the idea has always made me uncomfortable. now scientists are taking a closer look at base-pair sequences that have been generally overlooked till now.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2004 23:04:36 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jessica</dc:creator>		<category>dna</category>		<category>junkdna</category>		<category>science</category>		<category>genetics</category>
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		<title>By: vacapinta</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33063/not-so-junk-DNA#669701</link>	
		<description>jessica, this is interesting, but it appears that another poster &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/33020&quot;&gt;posted about the same thing&lt;/a&gt; yesterday.</description>
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		<title>By: snarfodox</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33063/not-so-junk-DNA#669706</link>	
		<description>The most interesting thing that I&apos;ve ever seen written about &quot;junk&quot; DNA was &lt;a href=&quot;http://research.imb.uq.edu.au/~m.gagen/research/introns/publicity/ABC_Science_1_7_2002.html&quot;&gt;research&lt;/a&gt; by Professor John Mattick at the Institute of Molecular Bioscience within the University of Queensland. I sat in on a lecture he gave to a combined group of complex systems theorists and computer scientists with an interest in networking. Basically he thinks that what people now think of as &quot;junk&quot; DNA is interaction or networking code that is responsible for for the emergence of various characteristics in the organism.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2004 23:55:35 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Gyan</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33063/not-so-junk-DNA#669726</link>	
		<description>I find it hard to believe that &apos;junk&apos; DNA exists. RNA isn&apos;t sentient. It doesn&apos;t know what base-pairs to &quot;pass over&quot;. It&apos;s all physics at the core level. These DNA pairs must form &lt;i&gt;something&lt;/i&gt;, which hangs arounds and interacts with everything else in the body.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2004 01:10:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jimbob</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33063/not-so-junk-DNA#669733</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt; It doesn&apos;t know what base-pairs to &quot;pass over&lt;/i&gt;

It might if the DNA doesn&apos;t have the necessary start sequences (promoters) such as &quot;TATA&quot; sequences in eukaryotes.  Junk DNA certainly does have a biological impact though, for instance, in creating space between genes and therefore influencing cross-over frequencies.

In addition, the existance of junk DNA &lt;i&gt;seems&lt;/i&gt; to be logical - what happens to a gene once it has mutated beyond usefulness? It is, by definition, junk, even if the base-pairs are still there.

This is very interesting research, though.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2004 02:01:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ubersturm</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33063/not-so-junk-DNA#669754</link>	
		<description>well, RNA isn&apos;t sentient, but there are rules which determine which bits of DNA code for RNA &amp;amp; proteins.  if specialized promoter sequences [like the TATA box or CAAT box in eukaryotes] are absent, the RNA polymerase will not bind to the DNA strand and that bit of DNA will not be transcribed.  there are two short 6-10 bp sequences which are nearly identical in almost all promoters.  RNA polymerase isn&apos;t sentient, but its chemical structure requires certain shapes and charges in the DNA being transcribed; if the promoters aren&apos;t there... well, the base-pairs _do_ get &quot;passed over.&quot; furthermore, when introns occur within gene regions [as they frequently do], various enzymes actively excise the intron RNA from the mRNA strand _before_ that strand is translated.  what&apos;s left is swiftly degraded untranslatable RNA.  

really, only 3% of the human genome actively codes for genes and regulatory stuff.  over half of the genome is thought to be duplications of parts of the active protein-producing genome, ranging from a few basepairs to hundreds of kbp and multiple genes.  people have hypothesized uses for introns before.  one suggestion is that introns and non-coding regions provide a place where mutations can accumulate without harming the organism.  this provides organisms with a sort of &quot;bank&quot; of different proto-genes, created by transposition, non-homologous unequal crossing-over, or simple mutation.  occasionally this random mutation produces a new functional gene.  sometimes these genes are deleterious to the organism, or simply neutral.  but occasionally they provide a selective advantage, and persist.  the myoglobin gene, for example, evolved from an extra copy of the human beta-globin gene.

so we already knew that the non-coding DNA wasn&apos;t simply &quot;junk&quot;.  but it&apos;s interesting to hear that such large and highly conserved regions exist.  the fact that a quarter of these regions are actually introns in genes for embryonic development does seem to support professor hassler&apos;s suggestion, although i wouldn&apos;t necessarily assume that &quot;all of the non-coding DNA&quot; is actively doing something &quot;more important than coding for proteins.&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2004 04:46:33 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jessica</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33063/not-so-junk-DNA#669763</link>	
		<description>i swear i did a search for dna and nothing that looked relevant came up. i&apos;m sorry about the double post. poo.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2004 05:45:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: skallas</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33063/not-so-junk-DNA#669957</link>	
		<description>&amp;gt; I find it hard to believe that &apos;junk&apos; DNA exists.

Do you find your appendix, tailbone, and second kidney hard to believe also?

Organisms aren&apos;t like designed machines, evolution is a blind process and leads to, on the surface, &quot;odd&quot; things.  Junk DNA is just part of the game.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2004 10:10:39 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kindall</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33063/not-so-junk-DNA#670038</link>	
		<description>I can&apos;t wait for Norton SpeedGene, the genetic optimizer that edits out junk DNA! There&apos;ll be genetically-complete humans with perhaps only one or two chromosomes.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2004 11:40:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: blue</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33063/not-so-junk-DNA#670253</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m glad you mentioned John Mattick&apos;s research, snarfodox -- his team was co-author of the Science paper referred to in the BBC story.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2004 16:52:27 -0800</pubDate>
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