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	<title>Comments on: Mark VII</title>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2004 05:55:18 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Mark VII</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://netilium.org/~mad/markvii/"&gt;Commodore 64 Hip-Hop&lt;/a&gt; that you might enjoy, depending on your tolerance for lowfi obsoleet funk freakin.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2004 05:45:24 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Pretty_Generic</dc:creator>		<category>music</category>		<category>amusing</category>		<category>Commodore64</category>		<category>hip-hop</category>
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		<title>By: Dr_Octavius</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33731/Mark-VII#686788</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00003OPD0/ref=m_art_li_1/102-4063920-7401729?v=glance&amp;s=music&quot;&gt;Here&lt;/a&gt; is some real Commodore 64 hip-hop.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2004 05:55:18 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: eddydamascene</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33731/Mark-VII#686792</link>	
		<description>I can say, without a hint of hyperbole, that this is the greatest thing in the world ever that has ever existed since the dawn of time. EVAR.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2004 06:05:00 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: neckro23</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33731/Mark-VII#686796</link>	
		<description>This is the sound of me agreeing with eddydamascene.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2004 06:10:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: toby\flat2</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33731/Mark-VII#686802</link>	
		<description>Not strictly c64 (more info &lt;a href=&quot;http://members5.boardhost.com/bit3/msg/1453.html&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;), but very cool nonetheless.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2004 06:27:39 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Pretty_Generic</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33731/Mark-VII#686805</link>	
		<description>I don&apos;t get it toby, why aren&apos;t these c64?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2004 06:32:11 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Pretty_Generic</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: psmealey</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33731/Mark-VII#686812</link>	
		<description>[this is GREAT]</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2004 06:48:35 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: soyjoy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33731/Mark-VII#686814</link>	
		<description>PG, did you coin &quot;obsoleet&quot;? If so, good coinage. If not, good usage.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2004 06:55:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: soundofsuburbia</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33731/Mark-VII#686815</link>	
		<description>EXCELLENT</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2004 06:58:42 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sleslie</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33731/Mark-VII#686819</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt; I don&apos;t get it toby, why aren&apos;t these c64?&lt;/em&gt;

Because &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.members.tripod.com/the-cbm-files/speak/&quot;&gt;SAM&lt;/a&gt; didn&apos;t have a Busta Rhymes mode.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2004 07:00:22 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Pretty_Generic</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33731/Mark-VII#686820</link>	
		<description>The low-fi voices made me assume it was really coming out of a C64. Aren&apos;t they capable of that sort of thing?

soyjoy: Coinage! [mario sound effect]</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2004 07:04:00 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: toby\flat2</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33731/Mark-VII#686853</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://web.archive.org/web/20020818152741/http://www.mono211.com/content/releases/nmomp2.html&quot;&gt;A bit more info&lt;/a&gt;.

As far as I know it isn&apos;t possible to get this sort of stuff out of a c64, and anyway, you would have to be quite mad to sample outkast into a c64, let alone remix and mash it up.

The fact that it isn&apos;t possible doesn&apos;t make it any less great, though :)</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2004 07:51:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: cmicali</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33731/Mark-VII#686866</link>	
		<description>I remember when mono first released these, but I completely missed the Kathy Brown mashup.  Amazingly done.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2004 08:02:39 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Vidiot</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33731/Mark-VII#686868</link>	
		<description>Y&apos;all may also enjoy &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.treewave.com/&quot;&gt;Treewave&lt;/a&gt;.  &lt;small&gt;(previously featured &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/29240&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.)&lt;/small&gt;  They use a C64, a 286 clone, an Atari 2600, and a dot-matrix printer for percussion.  The sound is surprisingly organic.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2004 08:07:33 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: cmicali</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33731/Mark-VII#686874</link>	
		<description>Also, the 2nd c64 tune is by &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.xs4all.nl/~mon/download.htm&quot;&gt;Jeron Tel&lt;/a&gt; aka WAVE/&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.maniacsofnoise.nl/&quot;&gt;Maniacs of Noise&lt;/a&gt;.  He is the master of tracked music, and has done sound tracks to countless nes, snes, megadrive, and other console games.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2004 08:11:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Pretty_Generic</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33731/Mark-VII#686876</link>	
		<description>Treewave are superb.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2004 08:19:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: xmutex</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33731/Mark-VII#686879</link>	
		<description>Well crap. I was expecting this to be as boring as the mass of 8-bit music people are obsessed with, but these MP3s are really good. Thanks.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2004 08:26:18 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Pretty_Generic</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33731/Mark-VII#686880</link>	
		<description>Maniacs of Noise are superb.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2004 08:27:50 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ig</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33731/Mark-VII#686887</link>	
		<description>There is always... &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.goldenshower.gs/e/asmusicas.html&quot;&gt;Golden 
Shower&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;/font&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2004 08:41:40 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Peter H</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33731/Mark-VII#686910</link>	
		<description>[MARK vii SHOWS IT TO US CORRECT] ..damn thanks for the link, p_G</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2004 09:13:28 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Peter H</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Peter H</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33731/Mark-VII#686922</link>	
		<description>Man this stuff is truly wonderful fun. Thanks again.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2004 09:23:58 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Peter H</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: john</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33731/Mark-VII#686946</link>	
		<description>You think your Commodore 64 is really neato. What kind of chip you got in there, a Dorito?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2004 10:00:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rajbot</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33731/Mark-VII#686969</link>	
		<description>See also the infamous &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.beigerecords.com/products/beg-004.html&quot;&gt;8-bit Construction Set&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2004 10:40:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jcruelty</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33731/Mark-VII#687010</link>	
		<description>BIG UP TO 8BIT MASHERS!</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2004 11:33:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: weston</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33731/Mark-VII#687276</link>	
		<description>Sweet.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2004 19:51:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: arto</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33731/Mark-VII#687318</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;As far as I know it isn&apos;t possible to get this sort of stuff out of a c64, and anyway, you would have to be quite mad to sample outkast into a c64, let alone remix and mash it up.&lt;/i&gt;

I remember, in ancient times, thousands of years before the dawn of history, downloading a C64 demo that had an extremely grainy, short sample of some &apos;80s hit (it might have been Wang Chung&apos;s &quot;Everybody Wang Chung Tonight&quot;, but then again it might not have).  So in theory, those vocals could have gone into a C64, 40K at a time.  My money&apos;s on the vocals and drums being courtesy of a PC with some lofi/bit reduction type plugin, though.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2004 22:32:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: majick</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33731/Mark-VII#687337</link>	
		<description>As someone who has heard the SID 6581 chip do just about everything it is capable of, in fact something of a conniseur of the hardware itself, I declare with absolute authority and without fear of contradiction that the vocal track is slathered on after the fact.  That severely reduces the actual geek coolness of these tracks -- just about any fool could fire up an emulator, write up some tune in JCH, record to WAV, and add a vocal track in the audio editor of choice -- but they&apos;re still interesting.

It &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; possible to eke out ~4bit@8kHz sampled audio from the SID, by fooling with the volume and filter registers and exploiting yet another Voice 3 bug, but it doesn&apos;t sound like this.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2004 23:26:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: neckro23</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33731/Mark-VII#687858</link>	
		<description>No, it&apos;s obviously just the vocals hacked around a bit and mixed in.  Doesn&apos;t make it any less cool.

The C64 could do sampling... just very, very poorly.  The sample had to be very short and is rendered almost unintelligible by the compression system.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jun 2004 17:10:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: britain</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33731/Mark-VII#691684</link>	
		<description>I downloaded these a few days ago, threw them on the &apos;pod, and forgot about them.  Today I listened to them.  I can&apos;t identify all the sources of the original muzak, but I can say that &quot;Commando Jackson&quot; is so titled because the melody is lifted straight from the C64 port of &quot;Commando.&quot;  The beat is much more funky that the original game though.  I&apos;d be tempted to throw this on at a party if I had more than two or three friends who would recognize it.  =)  If you dig the groove, here are &lt;a href=&quot;http://remix.kwed.org/index.php?search=commando&quot;&gt;a few more cover versions&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2004 15:58:58 -0800</pubDate>
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