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	<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2004 12:28:04 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>King Arthur</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.vortigernstudies.org.uk/artgue/guestsheila2.htm"&gt;Artorius, Ambrosius, Arthur.&lt;/a&gt; An examination of the &lt;a href=http://www.webexcel.ndirect.co.uk/gwarnant/arthur/arthur.htm&gt;history&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=http://www.clas.ufl.edu/users/jshoaf/Arthurbook.htm&gt;behind&lt;/a&gt; the &lt;a href=http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/eng/index.htm#arthurian&gt;legend&lt;/a&gt; of &lt;a href=http://www.geocities.com/vortigernstudies/bibliograrth.htm&gt;King&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=http://www.arthuriana.co.uk/&gt;Arthur&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2004 12:09:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bob sarabia</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33850/King-Arthur#689763</link>	
		<description>i see someone else has been watching the &lt;a title=&quot;King Arthur: Behind the Myths &amp; Legends&quot; href=&quot;http://store.aetv.com/html/product/index.jhtml;jsessionid=XQO352EYV4LSWQOXHDDR5V0B022MQIY4?id=71453&quot;&gt;history channel&lt;/a&gt; hmm?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2004 12:28:04 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>bob sarabia</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: homunculus</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33850/King-Arthur#689771</link>	
		<description>Yeah, I started to watch it last night, but gave up on it quickly.  Actually I found most of these links a few weeks ago when I heard there was going to be a &lt;a href=http://kingarthur.movies.go.com/main.html&gt;new movie&lt;/a&gt;.  At least the show reminded me of the links.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2004 12:37:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bob sarabia</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33850/King-Arthur#689775</link>	
		<description>actually, i had a hard time concentrating on watching it too. i think it was &lt;a title=&quot;ENGAGE!&quot; href=&quot;http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/series/TNG/character/1112469.html&quot;&gt;Patrick Stewarts&lt;/a&gt; voice.

Nice links, btw. thanks!</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2004 12:45:41 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>bob sarabia</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Postroad</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33850/King-Arthur#689780</link>	
		<description>I had served under King Arthur. We found him to be a great leader, though as a ruler, he seemed not to have the same control and panache he had during battles.  At the Ropund Table (we peeked in windows) I thought his wife, the queen a bit of a flirt, always flipping her hair and casting glances at this or that guy sitting about the round table...We thought of him as you later folks think of Reagen--a leader whose many faults are overlooked because of his charm and smooth acting ways.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2004 12:52:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: homunculus</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33850/King-Arthur#689789</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;&lt;a href=http://www.keiraknightleypalace.com/kingarthur.asp&gt;I thought his wife, the queen a bit of a flirt, always flipping her hair and casting glances&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2004 13:12:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: stbalbach</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33850/King-Arthur#689792</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/19562&quot;&gt;King Arthur came to America.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2004 13:17:40 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: homunculus</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33850/King-Arthur#689798</link>	
		<description>Well, tell him to get lost, &lt;a href=http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2004/06/21/moon/index.html&gt;we already have a king!&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2004 13:31:32 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: insomnia_lj</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33850/King-Arthur#689802</link>	
		<description>For those interested in a bit of the backstory for the new movie &lt;i&gt;&quot;King Arthur&quot;&lt;/i&gt;, I did &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.livejournal.com/users/insomnia/382402.html&quot;&gt;an interview with Mark Ryan&lt;/a&gt; awhile back, who is the swordmaster for the new movie in question. He went into some details regarding the historical background of the movie, and revealed some interesting details about the production.

(Mark, though best known as Nasir from &lt;i&gt;&quot;Robin of Sherwood&quot;&lt;/i&gt;, also did some swordfighting in &lt;i&gt;&quot;Charlie&apos;s Angels&quot;&lt;/i&gt;, which makes me just two degrees of seperation from Drew Barrymore and Lucy Liu. Yum!) 

Will it be good? Dunno. The interview and longer conversation I had regarding the movie indicates that there are aspects to the picture that might make it more interesting than it appears, however. So much depends on how well they flush out their Arthurian premise. How do you make a movie that, in one sense, competes against a beloved legend? Perhaps the legend has far more flesh and blood to it than the history ever could. 

As long as it&apos;s not Troy bad...</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2004 13:46:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Smart Dalek</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33850/King-Arthur#689809</link>	
		<description>I still think &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.britannia.com/history/docs/sidonius.html&quot;&gt;Riothamus of Domnon&#233;e&lt;/a&gt; was &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.uidaho.edu/student_orgs/arthurian_legend/welcome.html&quot;&gt;Arthur&lt;/a&gt;.

The real question which remains unanswered: &lt;i&gt;who was &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.beerhistory.com/library/holdings/gambrinus.shtml&quot;&gt;Gambrinus&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2004 13:57:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: linux</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33850/King-Arthur#689826</link>	
		<description>I remember doing some research on this a year ago, checked a few books out of the library.  It&apos;s certainly fascinating.  I liked how the History Channel related the creation of myth and its use in the Norman Conquest.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2004 14:34:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: taz</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33850/King-Arthur#689863</link>	
		<description>And of course we can&apos;t have an Arthur thread without mentioning the great &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lib.rochester.edu/camelot/cphome.stm&quot;&gt;Camelot Project&lt;/a&gt; (and all those yummy &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lib.rochester.edu/camelot/artmenu.htm&quot;&gt;images&lt;/a&gt;). Also interesting is the idea of Arthur as or relating to the Bear God (discussed a bit &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~tomgreen/arthur.htm&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, near the bottom of the page).

From a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.geocities.com/annafranklin1/bear.html&quot;&gt;Geocities site&lt;/a&gt; on bear cult: &quot;The Celtic word for bear was arth or arthe, Latinsed as Artos, which can be found in place names and gives rise to the name of &apos;Arthur&apos;. In the Pyranees, in the Valley of the Bear, there is a 6th century BC inscription to a Celtic god Arthe, and it reads &apos;Our Holy Father Arthe&apos;. The constellation of the Great Bear is known in Wales as &apos;Arthur&apos;s Wain&apos;. King Arthur is sleeping in an underground cave until Britain needs him recalls a bear in hibernation. It seems likely that Arthur was originally a sun god, and Yule was called Alban Arthur or &apos;Arthur&apos;s Time&apos; by the Celts. The bear rising from his underground sleep represented the rebirth of the sun from the underworld at midwinter. In Gaelic tradition it is said that the Kean mathon [&apos;head of the bear&apos;] was one of the seven signs or names of star clusters engraved on the shield of Arthur.&quot; (&lt;a href=&quot;http://66.102.11.104/search?q=cache:MANP3TDZEZcJ:www.geocities.com/annafranklin1/bear.html+THE+BEAR+By+Anna+Franklin&amp;hl=en&quot;&gt;Cache&lt;/a&gt;.)

And Marc Devere Davis outlines why, with this connection in mind, &lt;a href=&quot;http://66.102.11.104/search?q=cache:wM_vmoZW7S4J:www.angelfire.com/md/devere/urse.html+Arthur+and+Cuneglasus&amp;hl=en&quot;&gt;Arthur is Cuneglasus&lt;/a&gt; (cache of an &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.angelfire.com/md/devere/urse.html&quot;&gt;Angelfire site&lt;/a&gt;).</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2004 15:21:33 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: CunningLinguist</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33850/King-Arthur#689870</link>	
		<description>&lt;small&gt;Strange women lying around in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government! &lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2004 15:42:23 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Hildago</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33850/King-Arthur#689943</link>	
		<description>Thanks!  Now I know all about Commander Arthur!</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2004 18:10:30 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: homunculus</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33850/King-Arthur#691243</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=http://www.wessexarch.co.uk/projects/wiltshire/boscombe/bowmen/press_release.html&gt;Builders of Stonehenge found&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2004 21:53:37 -0800</pubDate>
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