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	<title>Comments on: Slip sliding away: insane brain games</title>
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	<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2004 06:47:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Slip sliding away: insane brain games</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.puzzleworld.org/SlidingBlockPuzzles/goat.htm"&gt;This should get your goat:&lt;/a&gt; Insanely hard &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.puzzleworld.org/SlidingBlockPuzzles/&quot;&gt;sliding block puzzles&lt;/a&gt;. (Can&apos;t take the heat? Maybe you&apos;d like to try an insanely hard &lt;a href=&quot;http://home.att.net/~robtabbott/sliding.html&quot;&gt;sliding door maze&lt;/a&gt; instead?)</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2004 04:45:00 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>taz</dc:creator>		<category>block</category>		<category>puzzles</category>		<category>sliding</category>		<category>game</category>		<category>interactive</category>		<category>collection</category>
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		<title>By: psychotic_venom</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33865/Slip-sliding-away-insane-brain-games#690174</link>	
		<description>Holy &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.puzzleworld.org/SlidingBlockPuzzles/pro24-1.htm&quot;&gt;crap&lt;/a&gt; that&apos;s hard.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2004 06:47:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Prospero</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33865/Slip-sliding-away-insane-brain-games#690203</link>	
		<description>Excellent post.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2004 07:27:34 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Prospero</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: evening</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33865/Slip-sliding-away-insane-brain-games#690286</link>	
		<description>ok, how do you solve these types of puzzles?  I suck at &quot;easy&quot; ones.  anyone have a guide or something that explains strategy for these??</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2004 09:27:09 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>evening</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: DrJohnEvans</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33865/Slip-sliding-away-insane-brain-games#690329</link>	
		<description>Nnnnnnngh.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2004 10:22:45 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: DevilsAdvocate</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33865/Slip-sliding-away-insane-brain-games#690376</link>	
		<description>It&apos;s possible to trap yourself in that sliding door maze.  I finally solved it, though.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2004 11:14:50 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dness2</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33865/Slip-sliding-away-insane-brain-games#690443</link>	
		<description>Damn you taz, and your little dog too.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2004 12:39:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: szg8</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33865/Slip-sliding-away-insane-brain-games#690486</link>	
		<description>Ok, that sliding door puzzle is insanely impossible.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2004 13:22:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: DevilsAdvocate</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33865/Slip-sliding-away-insane-brain-games#690590</link>	
		<description>evening: judging from &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.swiss.ai.mit.edu/~bob/sliding-blocks.pdf&quot;&gt;this paper&lt;/a&gt; &lt;small&gt;&lt;small&gt;[PDF]&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/small&gt;, help doesn&apos;t seem very likely:&lt;blockquote&gt;What can be said about the difficulty of solving this kind of puzzle, in general? Martin Gardner devoted his February, 1964 Mathematical Games column to sliding-block puzzles. This is what he had
to say:&lt;blockquote&gt;These puzzles are very much in want of a theory. Short of trial and error, no one knows how to determine if a given state is obtainable from another given state, and if it is obtainable, no one knows how to find the minimum chain of moves for achieving the desired state.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Forty years later, we still do not have such a theory. It turns out there is a good reason for this: sliding-block puzzles have recently been shown to belong to a class of problems known as PSPACE-complete. These problems are thought to be even harder than their better-known counterparts, the NP-complete problems (such as the traveling salesman problem).&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2004 15:30:43 -0800</pubDate>
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