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	<title>Comments on: Somewhere over the rainbow...</title>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2004 10:55:51 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Somewhere over the rainbow...</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.afi.com/tvevents/100years/songs.aspx"&gt;The American Film Institute&lt;/a&gt; (a.k.a. &quot;The Listmakers Who Just Won&apos;t Quit&quot;) have announced their &lt;strike&gt;long-awaited&lt;/strike&gt; &lt;strike&gt;ground-breaking&lt;/strike&gt; top 100 movie songs of all time.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2004 10:55:00 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ChrisTN</dc:creator>		<category>film</category>		<category>movies</category>		<category>list</category>		<category>top100</category>		<category>afi</category>		<category>americanfilminstitute</category>		<category>music</category>		<category>songs</category>
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		<title>By: ChrisTN</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33923/Somewhere-over-the-rainbow#691506</link>	
		<description>My ears are bleedings just to realize that Celine Dion made it as high as #14.  God help us all.</description>
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		<title>By: jonmc</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33923/Somewhere-over-the-rainbow#691512</link>	
		<description>What, nothing from &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000002H4C/ref=pd_bxgy_text_1/104-0266229-1471137?v=glance&amp;s=music&amp;st=*&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;? 

Pheh.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2004 11:04:41 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: shotsy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33923/Somewhere-over-the-rainbow#691514</link>	
		<description>Seems a pretty typical and dull AFI list. I was glad to see &quot;Make &apos;em Laugh&quot; on there though. That is a wonderful song.

I agree re: Celine, and was a bit miffed at two Bette Midler songs. 

Obligatory songs missing:
Jon Brion&apos;s song from Punch Drunk Love
Take your pick from one of Quentin Tarantino&apos;s movies</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2004 11:06:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: corpse</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33923/Somewhere-over-the-rainbow#691515</link>	
		<description>I despise the AFI. 

My notable ommissions:

In Dreams - Blue Velvet
Blue Velvet - Blue Velvet
In Heaven - Eraserhead
Bohemian Rhapsody - Wayne&apos;s World
Wig In A Box -  Hedwig and the Angry Inch
Llorando (Crying)  - Mulholland Drive
More Than This - Lost in Translation
If You Want to Sing Out, Sing Out  - Harold and Maude
Damn It Feels Good to Be a Gangsta - Office Space
Eye of the Tiger - Rocky
When Doves Cry - Purple Rain
Don&apos;t You (Forget About Me) - The Breakfast Club
Caught In the Middle With You - Resevoir Dogs
Bang Bang (My Baby Shot Me Down) - Kill Bill
Misirlou - Pulp Fiction
These Days - The Royal Tennanbaums
In Your Eyes - Say Anything
Man of Constant Sorrow - O&apos; Brother Where Art Thou
Pressure Drop - The Harder They Come
Time Warp - Rocky Horror Picture Show
Mean Green Mother from Outerspace - Little Shop of Horrors
Dueling Banjos - Deliverance 
Rock and Roll High School - Rock and Roll High School</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2004 11:07:49 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Quartermass</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33923/Somewhere-over-the-rainbow#691521</link>	
		<description>zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2004 11:16:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: GhostintheMachine</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33923/Somewhere-over-the-rainbow#691526</link>	
		<description>I was disappointed they didn&apos;t include instrumentals. Surely the Pink Panther and Star Wars themes (among others) deserved mention.

Interesting to see the preliminary list of 400, and see (by omission) what wasn&apos;t even considered.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2004 11:21:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: XQUZYPHYR</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33923/Somewhere-over-the-rainbow#691531</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;14. My Heart Will Go On - TITANIC&lt;/i&gt;

Thank you, I can stop right there.

Is there some special rule with the AFI that every one of these lists has to have one complete &quot;what the fuck?&quot; somewhere near the top?  Like when they decided &quot;Forrest Gump&quot; was one of the 100 best films ever made?  Or that &quot;Something About Mary&quot; deserved to make the top 20 funniest?  Couldn&apos;t they just run an ad for the studio that bribed them in that space instead or something?

That the Titanic Song can beat out &quot;Shaft&quot; - or for that matter prevent &quot;Dueling Banjos,&quot; &quot;Jesse James,&quot; &quot;Little Green Bag&quot; or the theme from &quot;Chariots of Fire&quot; from even making the list- is appaling.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2004 11:28:14 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ALongDecember</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33923/Somewhere-over-the-rainbow#691537</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082158/&quot;&gt;Chariots of Fire&lt;/a&gt; is British... AFI &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.afi.com/tvevents/100years/songs.aspx&quot;&gt;only lists&lt;/a&gt; American films. (see criteria at bottom of page.)</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2004 11:35:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sixpack</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33923/Somewhere-over-the-rainbow#691544</link>	
		<description>I nominate &lt;em&gt;Corpse&lt;/em&gt; to the Mefi 100. Excellent list!

AFI should&apos;ve limited its list to songs that are actually performed on-screen (as opposed to soundtrack, a la &quot;Mrs. Robinson&quot;).</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2004 11:41:41 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kirkaracha</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33923/Somewhere-over-the-rainbow#691550</link>	
		<description>The list was made by geezers. Most of this list could&apos;ve been made 30 years ago. (Although the few post-1970s selections are pretty lame.) And where are the themes from Star Wars and Raiders of the Lost Ark? And &quot;Rhapsody in Blue&quot; is the perfect intro song in Manhattan.

The criteria says to consider &quot;music and lyrics featured in an American film that set a tone or mood, define character, advance plot[,] and/or express the film&apos;s themes.&quot; In other words, the songs aren&apos;t necessarily good songs, they&apos;re appropriate to the movies they&apos;re in. Their top 3 is hard to argue with, but given the criteria I&apos;d put &quot;Up Where We Belong,&quot; &quot;Theme from Shaft,&quot; and &quot;Old Time Rock and Roll&quot; much higher. &quot;Theme from New York, New York&quot; is famous as a Frank Sinatra signature song, but I bet most people don&apos;t even know it&apos;s from a movie. And of course the Gene Wilder/Peter Boyle &quot;Puttin&apos; on the Ritz&quot; should be in the Top 10.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2004 11:47:40 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: SoftRain</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33923/Somewhere-over-the-rainbow#691553</link>	
		<description>So much Streisand.  Ugh.

How could Evergreen, from her Star Is Born remake, beat out The Man That Got Away, from Judy Garland&apos;s Star Is Born remake?

I know they&apos;re all mainstream-happy, (they didn&apos;t put Blue Velvet on their greatest films list, but Forrest Gump made the cut, for instance - they really don&apos;t seem to like David Lynch - didn&apos;t he make Eraserhead or something with their grant money?), which is why most of Corpse&apos;s songs wouldn&apos;t be on their list, but I can&apos;t understand why &quot;Man of Constant Sorrow&quot; isn&apos;t there.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2004 11:51:55 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dhoyt</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33923/Somewhere-over-the-rainbow#691556</link>	
		<description>Favorite recent use of music in a film:

&quot;Just Like Honey&quot; (Jesus &amp;amp; Mary Chain) from &lt;em&gt;Lost in Translation&lt;/em&gt;

*lump forms in throat*</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2004 11:53:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Miles Long</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33923/Somewhere-over-the-rainbow#691572</link>	
		<description>re &quot;what the fuck?!&quot; type selections:

They&apos;re always there. There has to be some controversy, otherwise people wouldn&apos;t discuss it. The worst thing in marketing is to be ignored.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2004 12:06:48 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jennyb</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33923/Somewhere-over-the-rainbow#691585</link>	
		<description>Too much from Moulin Rouge. Am I the only person who truly, madly, deeply hates that movie?</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2004 12:27:48 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Holden</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33923/Somewhere-over-the-rainbow#691624</link>	
		<description>Thanks, Corpse. Truly, the AFI&apos;s lameness is unmasked by the exclusion  of Dueling Banjos. And Time Warp is one of the best movie songs ever. I was singing it to my 7-year-old son at bedtime last night.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2004 13:42:08 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ChrisTN</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33923/Somewhere-over-the-rainbow#691630</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Too much from Moulin Rouge. Am I the only person who truly, madly, deeply hates that movie?&lt;/i&gt;

Yes...but then, my inner screaming flaming show tune queen comes roaring out at questions like this, so don&apos;t mind me.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2004 13:51:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: smackfu</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33923/Somewhere-over-the-rainbow#691644</link>	
		<description>There was one song from Moulin Rouge, and it was #85.  That&apos;s too much?</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2004 14:20:50 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jennyb</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33923/Somewhere-over-the-rainbow#691665</link>	
		<description>Yes. I would argue that one song from that movie at #85 was too much. And then they juxtaposed Nicole Kidman in &lt;i&gt;Moulin Rouge&lt;/i&gt; with Marilyn Monroe in &lt;i&gt;Gentleman Prefer Blonds&lt;/i&gt; for &quot;Diamonds Are a Girl&apos;s Best Friend&quot;. And then I blacked out.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2004 15:01:46 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: DevilsAdvocate</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33923/Somewhere-over-the-rainbow#691813</link>	
		<description>I watched the broadcast, and I was impressed by one thing.  At one point an AFI executive came on screen and said that the whole point of the list was to get people talking about it--&quot;If you don&apos;t agree with us, then discuss it!&quot;  Which of course is the point of all such lists, but most don&apos;t admit it so frankly.

&quot;Puttin&apos; on the Ritz&quot; was the other song which was recognized for two different movies.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2004 21:42:55 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: obloquy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/33923/Somewhere-over-the-rainbow#691843</link>	
		<description>Could AFI not find enough room on the internet to include the names of the PERFORMERS or COMPOSERS of these songs?  Not even on the dogdamned PDFs?  Pardon, but that just right cheeses me off.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2004 00:14:58 -0800</pubDate>
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