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	<title>Comments on: SkypeOut!</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jul 2004 16:45:05 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>SkypeOut!</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34136/SkypeOut</link>	
		<description>Last week popular peer-to-peer telephony company &lt;a href=&quot;http://skype.com/&quot;&gt;Skype&lt;/a&gt; launched SkypeOut, allowing you to call regular telephone numbers from your computer or PDA. The &lt;a href=&quot;https://secure.skype.com/store/help.pricelist.html&quot;&gt;price list&lt;/a&gt; is sweet, and the &lt;a href=&quot;https://secure.skype.com/store/help.globalrate.html&quot;&gt;global rate&lt;/a&gt; for selected countries looks good too. There&apos;s no press relase, news announcement or description page yet, but &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hebig.com/&quot;&gt;Heiko Hebig&lt;/a&gt; confirms that it&apos;s working with an early short &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hebig.com/archives/002285.shtml&quot;&gt;review&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
(Via &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.loiclemeur.com/english/2004/07/voip_to_plain_o.html&quot;&gt; Loic Le Meur Blog&lt;/a&gt;,&lt;a href=&quot;http://rodrigo.typepad.com/english/2004/07/voip_to_plain_o.html&quot;&gt; Rodrigo A. Sep&#0250;lveda&lt;/a&gt;.)&lt;br /&gt;
Related on MeFi: &lt;a href=&quot;http://metafilter.com/mefi/28493&quot;&gt;Skype Launches&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jul 2004 14:24:34 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>will</dc:creator>		<category>Skype</category>		<category>SkypeOut</category>		<category>telecommunication</category>		<category>phones</category>
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		<title>By: quiet</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34136/SkypeOut#696671</link>	
		<description>The prices seem expensive to me compared to what I get when calling from my landline. From the UK I use &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.call18866.co.uk/&quot;&gt;18866&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.telestunt.co.uk/&quot;&gt;TeleStunt&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.telediscount.co.uk/&quot;&gt;TeleDiscount&lt;/a&gt;. Also, I still have to pay the VAT.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jul 2004 16:45:05 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sunexplodes</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34136/SkypeOut#696685</link>	
		<description>$.02 CDN per minute to phone overseas is pretty sweet to me...

there&apos;s a bit of a lag which hampers conversation flow, but nothing to complain about (so far...)</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jul 2004 18:01:20 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rhyax</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34136/SkypeOut#696695</link>	
		<description>no mac version</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jul 2004 19:15:52 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ao4047</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34136/SkypeOut#696698</link>	
		<description>Does Skype have any spyware yet? I&apos;m assuming that&apos;s the next step after they get wider distribution (aren&apos;t these the Kazaa guys?).</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jul 2004 19:33:37 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kwantsar</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34136/SkypeOut#696701</link>	
		<description>1.  phone cards are cheaper
2.  it shouldn&apos;t be very difficult to build your own skype-&amp;gt;PSTN calling gatway.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jul 2004 19:43:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: reklaw</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34136/SkypeOut#696703</link>	
		<description>ao4o47: It seems more likely that this would become the second coming of Altnet... it&apos;s not spyware, as such, but software by the same guys who wrote Kazaa and Skype (Niklas Zennstrom and Janus Friis, I believe) that uses your resources as part of a big distributed-computing network that they can sell on. I wouldn&apos;t be too surprised if they started bundling Altnet with Skype at some point, at least for people who never pay the outside-calling fees.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jul 2004 19:50:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ParisParamus</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34136/SkypeOut#696715</link>	
		<description>On a tangent, is anyone aware of a way, at least in the NYC area, but which one can obtain DSL+regional or national flatrate phone service for less than, ~$100/month with tax?  Reward for anyone who can show me how to break Verizon&apos;s monopoly, essentially, on DSL.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jul 2004 21:16:59 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ParisParamus</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: troutfishing</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34136/SkypeOut#696727</link>	
		<description>PP - Hire a lobbyist.  Initially, though, this is pricey.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jul 2004 22:39:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dorian</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34136/SkypeOut#696734</link>	
		<description>eh, I do better calling thru my &lt;a href=&quot;http://asterisk.org&quot;&gt;asterisk system&lt;/a&gt; but at least something like this is helping to get the word out -- I&apos;m sick of those stupid &quot;unlimited calling thru voip, only 39.95 per month!!!&quot; ads on the nyc subway.

&lt;b&gt;PP&lt;/b&gt; -- &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.lingo.com&quot;&gt;lingo&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=http://www.vonage.com&quot; &quot;&gt;vonage&lt;/a&gt;,  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.packet8.net&quot;&gt;packet8&lt;/a&gt; &amp;amp;c. &amp;amp;c. as for breaking dsl monopoly, eh, there&apos;s always cable. but clec vs. ilec is still hard to break through in many cities. I thought verizon was sposed to be having competitive rates for dsl recently...?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jul 2004 23:56:25 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>dorian</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: dmt</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34136/SkypeOut#696738</link>	
		<description>trout, cheaper than a lawyer! ;-)</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2004 00:37:35 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jammer</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34136/SkypeOut#696741</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;no mac version&lt;/i&gt;

There &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pcpro.co.uk/?http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/news_story.php?id=58194&quot;&gt;will be soon&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2004 00:50:30 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rough ashlar</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34136/SkypeOut#696768</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Reward for anyone who can show me how to break Verizon&apos;s monopoly, essentially, on DSL&lt;/i&gt;

Elect Republicans, as they will help remove government oversite of corporations.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2004 06:48:49 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ParisParamus</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34136/SkypeOut#696859</link>	
		<description>Vonage, et al, doesn&apos;t really help, since it still requires DSL or Cable access.  Verizon DSL is still going to cost about $50/month with basic phone service.  Tack on Something like vonage, and we&apos;re back up to $100.  So, what gives?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2004 11:44:50 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ParisParamus</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: ParisParamus</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34136/SkypeOut#696861</link>	
		<description>What I should do is just share a cable connection with my next-apartment neigbor.  But that&apos;s illegal...</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2004 11:46:16 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dorian</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34136/SkypeOut#696882</link>	
		<description>tanstaafl, go fig.

the 50/month for dsl/cable/etc. is something which we are all of us going to be paying for anyway, right? then 20/month for lingo or whatever is not such a burden.

you could always convince your friends and acquaintances to use something free like &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.freeworlddialup.com/&quot; title=&quot;pulverlicious&quot;&gt;fwd&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.iaxtel.com&quot; title=&quot;spencerlicious&quot;&gt;iaxtel&lt;/a&gt;...

there&apos;s also &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.e164.org&quot; title=&quot;duanelicious&quot;&gt;enum&lt;/a&gt; but that&apos;s harder to explain.

in general voip is amazing -- fwd is still offering the free &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.libretel.com/access.html&quot;&gt;libretel&lt;/a&gt; access service, so people all over the us can make the equivalent of a local call to my fwd #. and there is a similar program giving out &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gossiptel.com&quot;&gt;uk national-rate numbers&lt;/a&gt;, so my friends in the uk can make a semi-domestic (to them) call that will ring my phone here in the us.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2004 12:48:32 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>dorian</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: dorian</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34136/SkypeOut#696884</link>	
		<description>s/amazing/what the goram pstn should be/</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2004 12:49:03 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>dorian</dc:creator>
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