Comments on: A blow for freedom

A blow for freedom

acrobat — Tue, 06 Jul 2004 07:42:33 -0800

The supreme court ruling that Guant?namo Bay prisoners can challenge their detention in the US is something that renews hope that America is not going down the drain. Slowly everyone understands the madness this administration wanted to drag us all in.

By: jpburns

jpburns — Tue, 06 Jul 2004 07:50:01 -0800

Please use the search feature. Here's the link to the relevant FPP, back when it actually happened.

By: quonsar

quonsar — Tue, 06 Jul 2004 08:02:42 -0800

announcer: "...and jpburns leads off today's discussion with a lead pipe to the face! listen to that crowd roar!"

By: armoured-ant

armoured-ant — Tue, 06 Jul 2004 08:06:22 -0800

member since: September 12, 2001 So that's where Bin Laden's been hiding!

By: jpburns

jpburns — Tue, 06 Jul 2004 08:09:02 -0800

Q: I thought I was being polite and helpful... not screaming and all...

By: quonsar

quonsar — Tue, 06 Jul 2004 08:13:23 -0800

ah. perhaps my perception was clouded by wishful thinking.

By: taumeson

taumeson — Tue, 06 Jul 2004 08:25:28 -0800

this isn't a double at all, JP, it's a link to a well written opinion piece about a UK law professors renewal of faith in our way of government.

By: dmt

dmt — Tue, 06 Jul 2004 09:31:29 -0800

It's a very interesting article and SCOTUS's descision has restored some of my very battered affection for the United States. Would that the House of Lords is so brave when the internetment appeals are heard before them shortly.

By: srboisvert

srboisvert — Tue, 06 Jul 2004 09:48:22 -0800

SCOTUS to POTUS: "GITMO ENCs have HRs". Glossary: SCOTUS: Supreme Court appointed by Presidents POTUS: President appointed by Supreme Court GITMO: Minimalist Cuban Resort ENC: Enemy non-combatants HR: Human Rights

By: pejamo

pejamo — Tue, 06 Jul 2004 10:25:36 -0800

Slowly, the madness into which the administration wanted to drag us, is understood by everyone.

By: amberglow

amberglow — Tue, 06 Jul 2004 10:40:03 -0800

has anyone told the detainees yet? will they? the AP just did a piece from "inside Guantanamo" but no mentions of lawyers or any sort of justice that i could see.

By: homunculus

homunculus — Tue, 06 Jul 2004 11:31:42 -0800

On the other hand: Many are calling this week's Supreme Court rulings a victory for civil libertarians. It may be a hollow victory.

By: th3ph17

th3ph17 — Tue, 06 Jul 2004 12:49:28 -0800

my local paper has letters to the editor complaining about it. Givin' rights to folks who want to destroy amerka and all that.

By: homunculus

homunculus — Tue, 06 Jul 2004 14:05:50 -0800

Apparently we traded 5 Saudi suspects from Guantánamo Bay for 7 Westerners who had been framed by Saudi Arabia.

By: amberglow

amberglow — Tue, 06 Jul 2004 15:18:15 -0800

Most detainees have not yet been told of their newly won right. Nor were they told about the Abu Ghraib scandal, officials said.--from the Guardian today

By: jfuller

jfuller — Tue, 06 Jul 2004 15:55:43 -0800

> it's a link to a well written opinion piece about a UK law professors > renewal of faith in our way of government. If he waved his arms and gave up before seeing the detentions tested before the Supreme Court, that was, what can I say, dim and jellylike. Oh he of little faith!

By: dmt

dmt — Wed, 07 Jul 2004 03:55:51 -0800

That's right jfuller, you tell Conor Gearty about how human rights law works. He's only a barrister with Matrix Chambers and head of human rights law at the London School of Economics. Suffice it to say that he is a lawyer of huge standing. The point I fear is that the actions of the President have put America egregiously in breach of some of the most basic tenants of international law. This is an impressive piece of legal fancy footwork to set the US back on the right track. While it is right and proper that such mistakes can be rectified by appeal after the fact it is appropriate that legal experts flag where the law is broken before people have been interned for three years - given the circumstances a little arm waving is right and no one's suggesting that he have up. apologies for getting carried away just finished postgrad thesis in this area and currently very depressed

By: homunculus

homunculus — Wed, 07 Jul 2004 14:31:35 -0800

In Ruling on Constitutional Controversies, the Justices Are Leaving Them Unsettled

By: homunculus

homunculus — Wed, 07 Jul 2004 14:32:46 -0800

The Likely Impact of the 2004 Presidential Election on the Composition and Decisions of the Supreme Court