Comments on: But I want double meat!

But I want double meat!

homunculus — Mon, 19 Jul 2004 17:29:11 -0800

Ordering pizza in a surveillance society. [Flash, via Crooked Timber.]

By: dg

dg — Mon, 19 Jul 2004 17:36:37 -0800

A little over the top for sure, but it is feasible that organisations could gather this data, I guess. Probably the only thing stopping them is the cost of gathering and collating all the information in a central database. One day, though ...

By: sharksandwich

sharksandwich — Mon, 19 Jul 2004 18:02:04 -0800

That's so fake. Nobody uses libraries.

By: Witty

Witty — Mon, 19 Jul 2004 18:13:02 -0800

By the time anything like this happens, we'll only be 2 or 3 years shy of Armageddon anyway. So what's the worry? Pretty funny though.

By: WolfDaddy

WolfDaddy — Mon, 19 Jul 2004 18:21:23 -0800

This is why I pay cash for everything. And pizza makes you fat. *runs*

By: tapeguy

tapeguy — Mon, 19 Jul 2004 18:22:13 -0800

But surely putting stuff like this animation out there gives unscrupulous programmers and marketing people the idea to put this kind of thing into motion? A bit like that Skynet programmer guy who had Arnie's arm in Terminator II.

By: caddis

caddis — Mon, 19 Jul 2004 18:47:32 -0800

*Off the grid, accessing MeFi only through open WiFi, cash, camping in the park, living like the proles, without oversight...* What a fantasy privacy is anymore. "1984" is just, so 1984. The loss of privacy is now a given. Control comes through your peers, not your police state. We are headed not for 1984, but for "The Handmaid's Tale."

By: gluechunk

gluechunk — Mon, 19 Jul 2004 18:54:26 -0800

Ordering pizza in a surveillance society. At first I thought you were linking to Pizza Monthly Quarterly's PizzaVision page.

By: angry modem

angry modem — Mon, 19 Jul 2004 19:39:53 -0800

no wonder nobody takes the ACLU seriously.

By: davidmsc

davidmsc — Mon, 19 Jul 2004 20:14:10 -0800

Geez...in the words of Sergeant Hulka, "Lighten up, Francis!" Two things: First, Scott McNealy, CEO of Sun, once remarked something to the effect of "You have no privacy - get over it." Second, the scenario depicted in the ACLU Flash bit just won't happen. I'm sure some privacy-weenies will be scared by it, though.

By: Kwantsar

Kwantsar — Mon, 19 Jul 2004 20:34:10 -0800

"You have zero privacy anyway"

By: troutfishing

troutfishing — Mon, 19 Jul 2004 21:31:37 -0800

"Probably the only thing stopping them is the cost of gathering and collating all the information in a central database." - and that cost is dropping every day. "First, Scott McNealy, CEO of Sun, once remarked something to the effect of "You have no privacy - get over it." - and Scott McNealy is who again ? Privacy or the lack of it is relative. "I'm sure some privacy-weenies will be scared by it, though. " - Does that mean that your "Sixty seconds of davidmsc's latest bowel movement" video is still cleared to go ? Wonderful. Can Pizza Hut distribute it along with it's food, to opting-in clients ? OK, good !

By: delmoi

delmoi — Mon, 19 Jul 2004 21:32:04 -0800

--- Now all I need is a pic of the 'deliverator' from Snowcrash.

By: Kwantsar

Kwantsar — Tue, 20 Jul 2004 00:28:53 -0800

Official pic of Hiro.

By: fullerine

fullerine — Tue, 20 Jul 2004 00:52:17 -0800

Just don't order the Ham and Mushroom Cloud Special Privacy died a few years ago.

By: ed\26h

ed\26h — Tue, 20 Jul 2004 02:09:58 -0800

Heh. Would serve you right for ordering a "double meat" anything. *Doesn't Run*

By: sic

sic — Tue, 20 Jul 2004 03:03:56 -0800

First, Scott McNealy, CEO of Sun, once remarked something to the effect of "You have no privacy - get over it." Second, the scenario depicted in the ACLU Flash bit just won't happen. I'm sure some privacy-weenies will be scared by it, though. Hmmm, so you're arguing that Americans have NO privacy BUT the corner Pizza restaurant won't have access to all that information, so it's foolish to worry about it? Perhaps you should think that through a bit more carefully.

By: Goofyy

Goofyy — Tue, 20 Jul 2004 04:45:41 -0800

I'm so glad to know that only weenies worry about privacy. I sure don't wanna be a weenie. I will write my congress critter just to make sure they know I am NOT a weenie! Privacy is a myth! Not mentioned in the constitution!

By: octobersurprise

octobersurprise — Tue, 20 Jul 2004 07:22:55 -0800

sic, davidmsc agrees with F. Scott Fitzgerald that "the true test of a first-rate mind is the ability to hold two contradictory ideas at the same time."

By: davidmsc

davidmsc — Tue, 20 Jul 2004 18:29:56 -0800

No, not quite. Just pointing out the disparity between the two sides. People will always have *some* privacy. People will always decry losing privacy. People can't expect, realistically, to have total privacy. It's a matter of balancing ideals with reality. And the comment about privacy-weenies was aimed at those who are sure - positive - that the scenario depicted in the ACLU clip is going to happen *tomorrow* - gasp! It won't --- and non-weenies know it.