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	<title>Comments on: Its obesity talk time, again.</title>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2004 13:01:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Its obesity talk time, again.</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34474/Its-obesity-talk-time-again</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href="http://money.cnn.com/2004/07/21/news/midcaps/krispy_kreme/index.htm?cnn=yes"&gt;Its obesity talk time, again.&lt;/a&gt; &quot;Once the fried dough embodiment of hot and fresh, Krispy Kreme has transformed its original glazed doughnut into a new frozen beverage for summer.&quot;

You heard that right.  A donut &lt;b&gt;drink&lt;/b&gt;. The United States is still food innovator #1!</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2004 12:56:15 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>4midori</dc:creator>		<category>krispykreme</category>		<category>donuts</category>		<category>doughnuts</category>		<category>donutshake</category>
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		<title>By: Stan Chin</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34474/Its-obesity-talk-time-again#705328</link>	
		<description>What?! Fuck you clown! That&apos;s an Orgy with a straw. I applaud Krispy Kreme for this epiphany Amber-Thiessen of delight.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2004 13:01:47 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Stan Chin</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: jonmc</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34474/Its-obesity-talk-time-again#705330</link>	
		<description>I. Love. This. Country.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2004 13:05:51 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: thomcatspike</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34474/Its-obesity-talk-time-again#705337</link>	
		<description>&quot;You know doughnut hole &#8211; you&apos;ve been around&quot;
What makes crispy cream(sic) doughnuts the better than the others? &quot;hot&quot; out of the oven. So are they now trying to diversify their menu or be the &quot;cold&quot; in doughnuts?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2004 13:11:04 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Space Coyote</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34474/Its-obesity-talk-time-again#705339</link>	
		<description>Nummy.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2004 13:11:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bondcliff</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34474/Its-obesity-talk-time-again#705346</link>	
		<description>Donuts.  Is there anything they &lt;i&gt;can&apos;t&lt;/i&gt; do?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2004 13:19:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: elwoodwiles</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34474/Its-obesity-talk-time-again#705347</link>	
		<description>What I want to know is how it goes as a mixer. Would it be better with rum or kahlua? Tuaca maybe?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2004 13:19:41 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: trharlan</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34474/Its-obesity-talk-time-again#705353</link>	
		<description>Has anyone else noticed that the calorie sidebar on the linked page seems flawed? All four drinks have 430 or 440 calories in the 12 oz. versions, but an additional 4 ounces adds 160 or 170 calories to three of the four versions, while adding 220 calories to the original kreme flavor. 

Am I missing something?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2004 13:25:07 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mmcg</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34474/Its-obesity-talk-time-again#705355</link>	
		<description>More importantly, &lt;i&gt;what the fuck is it?&lt;/i&gt; Although a McDonald&apos;s hamburger probably has more to do with chemistry lab than it does a cow, at least it&apos;s masquerading as an actual food product. This, on the other hand, is a &quot;great-tasting frozen blended beverage.&quot; I don&apos;t even know what that means. Sure, it could be a milkshake, but who knows? 

I give it two weeks before we find out that this sucker is made  from people.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2004 13:26:16 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: stupidsexyFlanders</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34474/Its-obesity-talk-time-again#705356</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m still waiting for Krispy Kreme Body Lotion. 

Wait, what am I saying? I have a blender! I have baby oil!

*whizzes off to Krispy Kreme*</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2004 13:27:00 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: srboisvert</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34474/Its-obesity-talk-time-again#705359</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;I give it two weeks before we find out that this sucker is made from people.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;Police Detective Thorn:&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;em&gt;Soon they&apos;ll be breeding us like cattle! You&apos;ve got to warn everyone and tell them! Soylent Kreme is made of people! You&apos;ve got to tell them! Soylent Kreme is people!&lt;/em&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2004 13:31:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: keswick</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34474/Its-obesity-talk-time-again#705369</link>	
		<description>You could at least put spoiler tags around that, fucker.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2004 13:41:35 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dobbs</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34474/Its-obesity-talk-time-again#705371</link>	
		<description>This just sounds &lt;i&gt;nasty&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2004 13:42:23 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: five fresh fish</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34474/Its-obesity-talk-time-again#705373</link>	
		<description>I&apos;ve heard KK stock is tanking because of the no-carbs fad.

I&apos;d eat a KK donut.  Once.  I don&apos;t think I&apos;d bother eating such unhealthy, nay, &lt;i&gt;poisonous&lt;/i&gt; snack a second time.  Eating donuts is akin to ritualistic suicide.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2004 13:44:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: PigAlien</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34474/Its-obesity-talk-time-again#705380</link>	
		<description>Krispy Kreme donuts are heavenly fresh out of the fryer.  Ummm.  I haven&apos;t eaten one in a couple years probably.  Now, I feel like getting one tonight.  Although I&apos;m incredibly suspicious of any of these frozen beverages (corn syprup, water, non-dairy cream), I might even try one just for the novelty.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2004 13:52:35 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ulotrichous</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34474/Its-obesity-talk-time-again#705381</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Eating donuts is akin to ritualistic suicide&lt;/i&gt;

Only the hyperbole-filled ones.  

I think the best outcome of this venture for Krispy Kreme would be if the &quot;better mousetrap&quot; were to be replaced by &quot;drinkable donut&quot;, thus changing the world of pablum forever.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2004 13:54:00 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Shoeburyness</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34474/Its-obesity-talk-time-again#705391</link>	
		<description>Frozen donut drink? Just thinking about it makes me nauseated. I don&apos;t see what it&apos;s got to do with obesity, other than 4midori trying to stir up shit. Does anyone of any weight find this drink appealing? I like a KK once in a while, but drinking it? I&apos;m not exaggerating about the nausea... I really, actually feel like puking right now.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2004 14:03:49 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: keswick</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34474/Its-obesity-talk-time-again#705396</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Eating donuts is akin to ritualistic suicide.&lt;/i&gt;

God bless cultural diversity. Sweet, sweet cultural diversity. *gurgle*</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2004 14:11:00 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mayor Curley</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34474/Its-obesity-talk-time-again#705399</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Eating donuts is akin to ritualistic suicide.&lt;/i&gt;

I thought that you were canadian. How can you talk like that without fear of retribution from your neighbors? Do you hate lager, too?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2004 14:22:23 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mayor Curley</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: theora55</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34474/Its-obesity-talk-time-again#705400</link>	
		<description>Subtle plot by terrorists to make Americans too fat and happy to resist.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2004 14:26:41 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: t r a c y</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34474/Its-obesity-talk-time-again#705404</link>	
		<description>sounds even more disgusting than the fried mars bar.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2004 14:32:06 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>t r a c y</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: majcher</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34474/Its-obesity-talk-time-again#705410</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Does anyone of any weight find this drink appealing?&lt;/em&gt;

Oh, sweet jesus yes.

And if you don&apos;t like the fried candy bars, well, I guess there&apos;s really nothing futher I can say to you.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2004 14:37:50 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sfenders</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34474/Its-obesity-talk-time-again#705416</link>	
		<description>hmm, this looks like it might have a shot at being even more repulsive than Tim Hortons&apos; &quot;Iced Cappucino&quot;.  Or maybe not.  Part of the reason I detest that hyper-sweet sludge from Tim&apos;s is because I ordered it with the naive expectation of getting something approximately like iced cappucino.  At least you know what to expect when you order a liquid donut.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2004 14:44:57 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: strangeleftydoublethink</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34474/Its-obesity-talk-time-again#705419</link>	
		<description>Whatever happened to Pepsi Blue, anyway?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2004 14:46:16 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: _sirmissalot_</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34474/Its-obesity-talk-time-again#705422</link>	
		<description>Surely I am not alone in my suspicion that this frosty libation is INCREDIBLY DELICIOUS AND PLEASING TO THE PALATE IN EVERY POSSIBLE WAY?*

(By the way, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.slate.com/id/2103845&quot;&gt;MooLatte,&lt;/a&gt; anyone?)

&lt;em&gt;&lt;small&gt;*Krispy Kreme representatives: please see my profile for contact and acceptable payment methods&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2004 14:53:15 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: amberglow</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34474/Its-obesity-talk-time-again#705429</link>	
		<description>The only way it would taste like their doughnuts would be if they used lard in these drinks too--ugh.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2004 15:07:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bobo123</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34474/Its-obesity-talk-time-again#705430</link>	
		<description>U.S. #1?

Scotland: Fried Mars Bars
Ukraine: Chocolate covered pork fat
Tibet: Butter tea (a warm drink of butter and milk)

... the donut drink is up there though. I sooo want to try it, will have to eat tofu and rice for the next few days to clean my system but this sounds good.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2004 15:08:45 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: geoff.</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34474/Its-obesity-talk-time-again#705455</link>	
		<description>This is an attempt for the current administration to orchestrate a way to slowly but surely kill off the nation&apos;s pot smokers. I&apos;m waiting for the Fark headline on the first overdose on this by stoned college students betting against each other.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2004 15:35:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: pyramid termite</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34474/Its-obesity-talk-time-again#705457</link>	
		<description>couldn&apos;t you save some money by just putting a donut in a blender with some water and freezing it?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2004 15:37:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jonmc</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34474/Its-obesity-talk-time-again#705463</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Eating donuts is akin to ritualistic suicide.&lt;/em&gt;

make note: fff has no soul. possible communist.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2004 15:44:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: oh posey</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34474/Its-obesity-talk-time-again#705470</link>	
		<description>God Krispy Kreme is just one block away from me and I&apos;m on day 2 of some stupid liver cleansing.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2004 15:53:05 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: amberglow</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34474/Its-obesity-talk-time-again#705477</link>	
		<description>pyramid, i think it would be a donut, extra sugar, some of that glaze they use, some coffee and some milk, and shaved or crushed ice.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2004 15:59:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: monkeyboy_socal</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34474/Its-obesity-talk-time-again#705478</link>	
		<description>How about some nice &lt;a href=http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3825221.stm&gt;Chocolate Pork Fat&lt;/a&gt; with your glass of liquid doughnut.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2004 16:04:24 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Salmonberry</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34474/Its-obesity-talk-time-again#705482</link>	
		<description>If they&apos;re trying for healthy, why didn&apos;t they opt for a doughnut smoothie? That way they could throw in boosters! Imagine a doughnut with a protein boost, or an energy boost or a shot of wheatgrass. 

That having been said, I want nothing to do with these drinks.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2004 16:10:39 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jonmc</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34474/Its-obesity-talk-time-again#705483</link>	
		<description>Come friday, I may buy me a fried candy bar and wash it down with a large one of these bad boys. Just to prove I can. Followed by a double Maker&apos;s on the rocks to coat everything in a nice glaze.


God Bless America.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2004 16:12:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: five fresh fish</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34474/Its-obesity-talk-time-again#705486</link>	
		<description>Molson&apos;s lager is horsepiss: I drink dark ales.

I eat a Tim Horton&apos;s doughnut perhaps twice a year.  They are not particularly good.

But I&apos;m a bit of a freak when it comes to diet:  I generally don&apos;t drink soda, eat potato chips or other junk food, or have dessert.  I eat vegetables and fruit every day, don&apos;t eat much meat, drink only one coffee a day, and if I imbibe, it&apos;s usually home-brew red wine unless I&apos;m at a pub, in which case it&apos;s usually a dark ale.  (And pubs are where my dietary habits do break down: greasy deepfried appetizers are my weakness.  Good thing I rarely go.)

I&apos;m sure some people recoil in horror at this diet.  It&apos;s so healthy, it must be awful!

I assure you, I eat very well.  My wife and I are both excellent cooks.  Almost everything we eat is made from scratch, and almost everything we prepare is better than that available from a restaurant.  We eat healthy, but we also eat delicious.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2004 16:14:07 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>five fresh fish</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: nath</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34474/Its-obesity-talk-time-again#705498</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;This is an attempt for the current administration to orchestrate a way to slowly but surely kill off the nation&apos;s pot smokers. I&apos;m waiting for the Fark headline on the first overdose on this by stoned college students betting against each other.&lt;/em&gt;

I dunno.  Making dumb wagers with your friends is more of a drunk thing.  If you&apos;re stoned and can motivate yourself to get to a Krispy Kreme, it&apos;s a success for everybody involved.

I&apos;m sort of with fff on this one, in that you&apos;d be surprised at the difference a healthy diet can make, i think.  I&apos;ve lost 40 pounds on a &quot;high protein, low carbs, low fat, moderate exercise, occasional fruits and vegetables, and drink as much as you want&quot; diet.  And sometimes I eat crap food when I&apos;m drunk or high.

But I find I don&apos;t really miss sweets or fats anymore.  And if I ever really learned to cook, it would be awesome.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2004 16:32:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jon_kill</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34474/Its-obesity-talk-time-again#705510</link>	
		<description>This whole carbs thing has to stop. Three years ago that sidebar would have had &quot;grams of fat&quot; in it. Three years from now, it will be protein or some fucking nonsense. Jesus Christ, we&apos;ve been walking around this planet for tens of thousands of years and somehow managed how to stay thin and healthy without some sneak attack on our metabolism orchestrated by one doctor, eight million ad execs and a terrorized populace.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2004 16:49:24 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: amberglow</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34474/Its-obesity-talk-time-again#705511</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;This whole carbs thing has to stop.&lt;/i&gt;
I know--it&apos;s weird--the vast majority of people in the world eat carbs with every meal, almost (Asians), yet they&apos;re not worried. Everyone i work with is either on Atkins, or tried it and gave up because they felt too deprived.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2004 16:53:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Stynxno</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34474/Its-obesity-talk-time-again#705520</link>	
		<description>/me sheds tear from eye, waves flag.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2004 17:06:21 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: DaShiv</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34474/Its-obesity-talk-time-again#705523</link>	
		<description>What hath God wrought?

&lt;small&gt;I love this country.&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2004 17:16:13 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: orange swan</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34474/Its-obesity-talk-time-again#705547</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Eating donuts is akin to ritualistic suicide.

I thought that you were canadian. How can you talk like that without fear of retribution from your neighbors? Do you hate lager, too?&lt;/i&gt;

FFF is probably atypical, Mayor Curley. Canada has more donut shops per capita than any other country in the world. The little town in southwestern Ontario where I went to high school had a population of 5,000 and two thriving donut shops. 

I can&apos;t remember the last time I had a donut either though - it&apos;s been at least a year. I suspect other Canadians must be picking up our slack, such as a former roommate of mine who used to eat an entire dozen at one sitting when she was feeling depressed about being single.

My dad, a trucker who is Tim&apos;s biggest fan (for the coffee, not for the donuts), told me that one time he was standing in a phone booth and happened to see a pigeon stroll up to a dutchie someone had dropped on the ground. The bird took two pecks and flew away immediately. The lesson there is... um.... don&apos;t litter.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2004 18:19:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: orange swan</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34474/Its-obesity-talk-time-again#705550</link>	
		<description>I&apos;ve never had a Krispy Kreme donut, but I wouldn&apos;t mind having one sometime. I might even try the donut drink if it doesn&apos;t look too revolting in person. True hedonism shortens life, but true ascetism makes life seem too long.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2004 18:23:50 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: livii</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34474/Its-obesity-talk-time-again#705580</link>	
		<description>Like jon_kill said - I couldn&apos;t believe it listed carbs, and not fat.  A doughnut drink?  You should probably be worrying about the insane amount of fat it&apos;s bound to have, not the carbs...

I like to eat a mix of healthy and junk, but this?  This is not appealing.  A good chocolate glaze from Tim&apos;s though?   Nice...</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2004 19:41:37 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Salmonberry</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34474/Its-obesity-talk-time-again#705589</link>	
		<description>orange swan, I tried a Krispy Kreme on my last foray into the US, ate it warm, and was underwhelmed. I think the delights were oversold to me. It&apos;s just a damn donut.

These drinks were made for the jonmc&apos;s of the world, and he knows how to use them properly. I say don&apos;t listen to the cowards like me, brave junk food eaters! Go forth and masticate!

&lt;small&gt; just let me try a sip, ok?&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2004 19:54:58 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jonmc</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34474/Its-obesity-talk-time-again#705593</link>	
		<description>I won&apos;t let you down, ma&apos;am.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2004 20:01:15 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: amberglow</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34474/Its-obesity-talk-time-again#705597</link>	
		<description>there&apos;s a better alternative to Krispy Kremes anyway--&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gothamist.com/archives/2004/03/09/beard_papa_on_the_upper_west_side.php&quot;&gt;Beard Papa!&lt;/a&gt; (cream puffs--they&apos;re out of this world)</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2004 20:03:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: troutfishing</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34474/Its-obesity-talk-time-again#705598</link>	
		<description>orange swan - no, true asceticism merely kills wordly desire. 

Then, everything is different - then, those infinite connections which tie all things together are perceived through a much thinner lens of self interested distortion. 

This, I&apos;ve seen - but only in glimpses.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2004 20:05:40 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jonmc</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34474/Its-obesity-talk-time-again#705605</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt; there&apos;s a better alternative to Krispy Kremes anyway--Beard Papa!&lt;/em&gt;

Not to mention &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.doughnutplant.com/&quot;&gt;Doughnut Plant&lt;/a&gt; down on Grand Street, home of the best doughnuts in the world. But Krispy Kreme is still pretty damned good.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2004 20:14:32 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: five fresh fish</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34474/Its-obesity-talk-time-again#705629</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;A good chocolate glaze from Tim&apos;s though? Nice...&lt;/i&gt;

Thing of it is, though, &lt;b&gt;they are not nice&lt;/b&gt;.  If you ever get the chance to have a real donut, you&apos;ll soon realize that Tim&apos;s is to donuts what home-grown tomatoes are to store-bought tomatoes.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2004 20:54:35 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: scarabic</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34474/Its-obesity-talk-time-again#705689</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;I think the delights were oversold to me. It&apos;s just a damn donut.&lt;/i&gt;

Absolutely. The rest of it is mere gluttony masquerading as brand enthusiasm, as if Krispy Kreme were the fucking Apple Computer of snack foods or something.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2004 00:36:50 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: reklaw</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34474/Its-obesity-talk-time-again#705708</link>	
		<description>scarabic: I&apos;d think that too, except my girlfriend went on holiday to America, having never heard any branding/advertising/raving about Krispy Kremes, and came back saying she loved the things. Then again, we both think McDonalds cheeseburgers are edible (once you remove that icky green thing), which seems to be an unpopular opinion.

Anyway, Krispy Kreme is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.krispykreme.com/uk.html&quot;&gt;taking over the world&lt;/a&gt;...</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2004 01:45:25 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: stavrosthewonderchicken</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34474/Its-obesity-talk-time-again#705712</link>	
		<description>I have never had a Krispy Kreme donut. For this reason if no other, I should be barred from criticizing America.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2004 02:18:37 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rory</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34474/Its-obesity-talk-time-again#705728</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;you&apos;ll soon realize that Tim&apos;s is to donuts what home-grown tomatoes are to store-bought tomatoes.&lt;/em&gt;

Quick, everybody over to Tim&apos;s before he realizes what he said.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2004 03:39:51 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: monkeyJuice</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34474/Its-obesity-talk-time-again#705733</link>	
		<description>jsut because its there doesn&apos;t mean you have to eat it</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2004 04:00:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: troutfishing</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34474/Its-obesity-talk-time-again#705751</link>	
		<description>Jesus Friggin&apos; Christ !

Krispy Kreme has killed my new business model !

Bastards. 

I was going to call it &quot;Lard-Ville&quot;.........</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2004 04:59:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: troutfishing</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34474/Its-obesity-talk-time-again#705754</link>	
		<description>Can&apos;t we ge Marcella Hazan to review this tasty new beverage for us ?</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2004 05:11:03 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dmt</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34474/Its-obesity-talk-time-again#705769</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Anyway, Krispy Kreme is taking over the world...
&lt;/em&gt;
It&apos;s too late, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.urbanjunkies.com/lon/031003.html&quot;&gt;they&apos;re already here...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2004 05:40:22 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: benjh</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34474/Its-obesity-talk-time-again#705804</link>	
		<description>Is it wrong, nay a sin, that I like doughnuts from my local bakery better than the KK doughtnuts?</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2004 06:29:16 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bonehead</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34474/Its-obesity-talk-time-again#705828</link>	
		<description>Krispy Kremes are a lot sweeter than Timmy&apos;s, they use the sweeter fructose rather than sucrose. Kremes are too sweet for me---even a bite or two is too much.  Kremes are also way higher in fat: 25% versus 15% for a Tim&apos;s donut.
&lt;small&gt;&lt;small&gt;Source: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/20040508/RKRIS08/Health/Idx&quot;&gt;Globe and Mail&lt;/a&gt; (uname/pw: pablo909/pablo909)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/small&gt;

Besides, everyone knows that Tim Horton&apos;s is all about the extra-large double-doubles, not the donuts.

Also: Hamilton? I think they have a bylaw or something that a Tim Horton&apos;s can be no more than 100m walking distance. We used to do Tim crawls in university on the way home after a hard night downtown.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2004 07:04:50 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: orange swan</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34474/Its-obesity-talk-time-again#705859</link>	
		<description>Hamilton, Ontario definitely had to be mentioned in this thread. I think I read/heard somewhere that Hamilton has more donut shops per capital than any municipality in the world. But I couldn&apos;t find evidence on the net, so I did not mention it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2004 07:50:46 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: five fresh fish</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34474/Its-obesity-talk-time-again#705966</link>	
		<description>eeeek!  other way around!  Tim&apos;s is not real tomatoes!</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2004 10:16:02 -0800</pubDate>
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