Comments on: I wanna keeping on loving you.... on a cruise ship.

I wanna keeping on loving you.... on a cruise ship.

KevinSkomsvold — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 12:07:21 -0800

REO, Styx and Journey. On a cruise ship. Now you can take that cruise and mingle with three 80's mega-bands (if you purchase the platinum package) for seven days. Tickets anyone? [via Kill Ugly Radio]

By: psmealey

psmealey — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 12:09:58 -0800

That all depends. How much will they pay me to hang out with them?

By: jonmc

jonmc — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 12:18:43 -0800

Ach. People gotta make a living. 25 years from now, somebody's favorite band of today will be doing the same thing. That said, Journey without Steve Perry is like a ham sandwich without ham. Also, what the hell did Kevin Cronin do to his hair?

By: psmealey

psmealey — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 12:20:58 -0800

Makes ya think, though. In 25 years, will Alanis be doing Vegas and Avril doing the cruise ships... or the other way around?

By: KevinSkomsvold

KevinSkomsvold — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 12:22:42 -0800

From the FAQ: Q: Will the bands stay on the ship for the entire cruise? A: Although we can't guarantee that the bands are on the ship for the entire cruise, we have designed a great program around the artists to create an amazing experience. I'm wondering if this means they'll jump overboard at some point? (I know, I know, they'll probably bail in Cozumel but work with me here...) Jonmc: Probably the same thing I did to my hair: left to the ravages of father time.

By: QuestionableSwami

QuestionableSwami — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 12:30:14 -0800

Makes ya think, though. In 25 years, will Alanis be doing Vegas and Avril doing the cruise ships... or the other way around? And Britney will be in Playboy, Christina will be in Hustler...or the other way around?

By: strangeleftydoublethink

strangeleftydoublethink — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 12:35:53 -0800

I saw all three bands in their heydays. They couldn't have picked three of the most boring rock bands ever. 45 minute Q&A session. How exciting. Of course, some of my old high school friends would probably love to go. They could have at least gotten a band like Heart to provide some extra possiblities.

By: muckster

muckster — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 12:36:50 -0800

If you'd rather sail with a bunch of hippies, there's always Jam Cruise.

By: kgasmart

kgasmart — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 12:41:21 -0800

I'm guessing this cruise will be packed with people who still use party as a verb.

By: joeadk

joeadk — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 12:41:45 -0800

You're thinking up your white lies You're putting on your bedroom eyes You say you're coming home but you won't say when But I can feel it coming If you leave tonight keep running And you need never look back again You take it on the run baby If that's the way you want it baby Then I don't want you around I don't believe it Not for a minute You're under the gun so you take it on the run

By: jonmc

jonmc — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 12:43:47 -0800

Dude, I think he actually went blond, a la Eminem and Art Alexakis. It don't work on him. That said I'll admit that I've enjoyed all three of these bands on ocassion. Styx was basically a decent hard-rock band ruined by Dennis DeYoung's numbingly earnest stabs at MOR balladry. REO had a couple decent bar-band rockers. Journey at their best was fairly high end AOR, mainly cause Steve Perry had such a good set of pipes and Neal Schon had good guitar chops from his time as Carlos Santana's teenage protege. Just doing my part to keep this from becoming a total mullet-bash. But I still wouldn't pay to go on a cruise with them.

By: thomcatspike

thomcatspike — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 12:51:37 -0800

Ha ha...the best seats(cabins) and cheap seats are already sold out. Wait if it's not a full sell out those cheaper cabins will be bumped up to better cabins for free. Wonder how big of a dick fest this will be. Excuse me - dude from behind you looked like a lady.

By: Verdant

Verdant — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 12:51:44 -0800

Best to pause, reflect, and ask WWJD (What Would Journey Do)?

By: arse_hat

arse_hat — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 12:53:32 -0800

Cruise ticket + suitcase full of disposable lighters = profit! "na na na na na na na na na na everybody now!"

By: jonmc

jonmc — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 13:01:35 -0800

They could have at least gotten a band like Heart to provide some extra possiblities. You nathty man. Actually, if you wanted to pick the best of that flock of AOR-type bands (on legit talent), the obvious choices would be .38 Special and Bob Seger and The Silver Bullet Band.

By: psmealey

psmealey — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 13:10:23 -0800

The youth culture sociology aspect of this is something that I find endlessly fascinating. I came of age musically in a period where, specifically, these three bands were more often the butt of jokes than they were mentioned with any degree of reverence, among my contemporaries. Whereas my sister (only 4 years my senior, and with a nearly identical New York white bread suburban upbringing), would probably camp out overnight TODAY to get the chance to see any one of them. There are probably other contributing factors, but still interesting.

By: chicobangs

chicobangs — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 13:11:53 -0800

And Britney will be in Playboy, Christina will be in Hustler...or the other way around? Naw, Britney will have as many kids as marriages, and she'll have a theme trailer park, Britneywood!, on the outskirts of Branson, Missouri. Me and the old lady'll go every year on our anniversary. Christina will be co-hosting the American version of What Not To Wear on Bravo! with Christina Ricci. It'll be called Christina Hates Your Stupid Clothes. It'll be a big hit. But Avril? Avril will totally be doing the cruises. With Lance Bass and Kelly Clarkson. The rocker cruise would have, let's see, I'd guess, Linkin Park, Blink 182 and Me First & the Gimme Gimmes. Sounds good, eh? But remember: This is 20 years from now.

By: chicobangs

chicobangs — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 13:14:01 -0800

Also, I think the playing of Come Sail Away in a loop on the front page is a nice touch. Oh, it changes. Never mind. But still.

By: Salmonberry

Salmonberry — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 13:14:20 -0800

Could people buying a cruise accidentally end up on something like this? There are so many of these speciality cruises, I have to think they also get sold to the general public who don't know it's a throwback-era theme. And what kind of special hell would that be. Walking on to a cruise that cost you thousands and discovering the onboard entertainment is REO Speedwagon. And there is no way off.....

By: JanetLand

JanetLand — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 13:17:37 -0800

Where the hell's Foreigner? That's what I want to know.

By: chicobangs

chicobangs — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 13:45:48 -0800

One could hope it was a titanic voyage, all the way around...

By: bondcliff

bondcliff — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 13:56:34 -0800

There's one boat that really needs to sink. The world would be much better off.

By: fluffycreature

fluffycreature — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 13:56:44 -0800

Yes, 40+ year old groupies are just the type of women I troll for in the bars. I can't believe my luck! Okay, seriously, I would like to see a web log of pictures posted from the cruise week. A rather interesting social experiment I would think.

By: keswick

keswick — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 14:12:34 -0800

I can't wait another ten years until the latest crop of kids who think they're god's gift start making fun of the dried-up, 30 year old skanks with the wide belts, dyed hair, clunky glasses, and star tattoos. she's got that wacked off hair / got them second hand clothes / got an itemized list of everything she loathes / yeah she's so political / so sophisticated / she would swear in court that everything is overrated

By: Witty

Witty — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 14:19:17 -0800

I have to admit, I'm a sucker for Journey's Greatest Hits on occasion... when Only The Young kicks in, I get all "innocent" and "free". I still have Styx's Grand Illusion, Cornerstone, and Pieces of Eight on vinyl. "Sometimes I feel like a Man in the Wilderness..."

By: WolfDaddy

WolfDaddy — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 14:32:45 -0800

When I was a young teen, I feel in love with Tommy Shaw. I thought he was a girl. Finding out he was a guy, combined with the strange tingling sensations that Paul Stanley's rhinestone crotch cup gave me, made me realize I was queer. I think I'd take this cruise just for the opportunity to share these thoughts with Mr. Shaw. Who needs to lose the facial hair.

By: WolfDaddy

WolfDaddy — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 14:33:44 -0800

...uh, fell in love with Tommy Shaw. You just keep your Freudian slip comments in the gutter, mmmkay?

By: chicobangs

chicobangs — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 14:39:45 -0800

Tommy Shaw was the shit, Wolf. I can totally see what you see in him.

By: chicobangs

chicobangs — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 14:40:44 -0800

Or what you feel in him. Whichever. Either way.

By: thomcatspike

thomcatspike — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 14:47:18 -0800

I can't wait another ten years until the latest crop of kids who think they're god's gift start making fun of the dried-up, 30 Heck, from what I've heard of cruise ship entertainment, these guys truly rock. Looking at the pricing not overly expensive. These guys are older than me so put them in there 40's. Bet most of the poster in this thread participated in this genre - any Hessians out there? Add, in another 10 years you will still be in the same boat as far as people pointing at your older self. Not sure if you were being sarcastic or not, the young enjoy fun.

By: srboisvert

srboisvert — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 14:48:24 -0800

I am holding out for the mefi cruise.

By: chicobangs

chicobangs — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 14:56:30 -0800

That all depends. How much will they pay me to hang out with them? He said "Depends."

By: keswick

keswick — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 15:04:46 -0800

thomcatspike: the point i was making, being dried-up and 30 myself, is that eventually, the smug hip kids who are currently mocking Styx and such will eventually be the targets of derision and scorn by their younger successors.... "oh mah gawd. a cruise with franz ferdinand, broken social scene, and modest mouse? PUH-leeez."

By: mccreath

mccreath — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 15:23:50 -0800

I understand they're scattering Z-28s and Firebirds around one of the decks for making out in.

By: wendell

wendell — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 15:25:31 -0800

That's the mistake the Lollapalooza promoters made... they shoulda done it as a cruise!

By: pyramid termite

pyramid termite — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 15:27:52 -0800

keswick ... you should know that the smug hip kids of my age were making fun of those bands in their heyday ... quite a few people of the 70's generation hated them joeadk ... those are the worst lyrics ever ... i hate that song ... if the guy doesn't believe it, what's he getting upset about? ... never did understand that and mr perry, while we're at it ... where the hell is south detroit? ... it's windsor, dude ... there is no south detroit jonmc ... bob seger would be great on a cruise ship ... you should hear the stuff he did before he made it nationwide

By: quonsar

quonsar — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 15:31:52 -0800

REO without Gary Richrath is like a toilet without water.

By: kirkaracha

kirkaracha — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 15:36:45 -0800

Lollapacruiser

By: thomcatspike

thomcatspike — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 16:02:45 -0800

keswick , understood you were 30 & dried up. I took part of your comment about the "young" as being comments mocking us. The young have nothing on us, cruise ships with live entertainment may be "a thing of the past."

By: Gary

Gary — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 16:09:00 -0800

the point i was making, being dried-up and 30 myself, is that eventually, the smug hip kids who are currently mocking Styx and such will eventually be the targets of derision and scorn by their younger successors.... "oh mah gawd. a cruise with franz ferdinand, broken social scene, and modest mouse? PUH-leeez." But then someone will play "Mr. Roboto" and we can all go back to laughing at Styx again. I can see the point you're trying to make, but... Styx?

By: ROU_Xenophobe

ROU_Xenophobe — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 16:46:29 -0800

I can see the point you're trying to make, but... Styx? Could be worse. Could be Asia. Or Survivor.

By: jonmc

jonmc — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 16:59:30 -0800

you should hear the stuff he did before he made it nationwide I have, man. One listen to "Chain Smokin'" and "East Side Story" would convert all the doubters out there.

By: jonmc

jonmc — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 17:07:00 -0800

"oh mah gawd. a cruise with franz ferdinand, broken social scene, and modest mouse? PUH-leeez." Actually, it will be worse for those bands. Journey, Styx, and REO never had pretensions beyond being glorified bar bands. Can't say the same for those outfits. The fall will be so painful. Yet gratifying.

By: jonmc

jonmc — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 17:09:50 -0800

or as an equally unhip but very wise man said: I am the entertainer, the idol of my age I make all kinds of money when I go on the stage You see me in the papers, I've been in the magazines But if I go cold, I won't get sold I get put in the back in the discount rack Like another can of beans

By: pyramid termite

pyramid termite — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 17:20:20 -0800

jonmc ... yeah ... that was great stuff ... it's criminal how that those early records have never been reissued

By: jonmc

jonmc — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 17:22:59 -0800

Yeah, I tell people that Seger was actually a proto-punk (the MC5 said that when they made Back In The USA that Seger's original version of "Ramblin' Gamblin' Man" was their model) but they never belive me. All they can see is the earnest balladeer of later years. But even some of that stuff was great for what it was.

By: muckster

muckster — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 17:34:59 -0800

Talkin' about rock vacations--I just saw Festival Express about the 1970 Canadian train trip with the Grateful Dead, Janis, the Band, Buddy Guy (and Sha Na Na.) It's fantastic.

By: planetkyoto

planetkyoto — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 17:44:48 -0800

Programming note: This week CNN International has been hyping its "Living Golf" program featuring a day on the links with Alice Cooper.

By: pxe2000

pxe2000 — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 18:41:28 -0800

whenever i hear billy joel, i always feel like i should be in some overpriced midtown deli. which way to the overheated yam/marshmallow stuff?

By: jonmc

jonmc — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 18:43:48 -0800

I love that overheated yam/marshmallow shit.

By: pxe2000

pxe2000 — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 19:08:07 -0800

i bet you do, jonmc. i bet you do. how is it that i always end up discussing junk food with you?

By: arto

arto — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 20:39:22 -0800

I love that overheated yam/marshmallow shit. That's pretty much how I feel about Journey, too. Except for the words "I love". Now if this was a cruise with April Wine, Chilliwack and Trooper, that'd be different...

By: yhbc

yhbc — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 20:43:43 -0800

Could be worse. Could be Asia. Or Survivor. Am I the only one who has been enjoying both the Tour de France and the many entertaining commercials on OLN during it? ROY! Roy, Roy, ROY! Roy, Roy, ROOOOY ...

By: WolfDaddy

WolfDaddy — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 20:51:01 -0800

Hey I liked Asia. Oh, wait, no sorry, I liked Roger Dean.

By: m@

m@ — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 21:04:05 -0800

On a cruise ship? With Journey? My personal hell has now been defined.

By: jonmc

jonmc — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 21:13:06 -0800

Now if this was a cruise with April Wine, Chilliwack and Trooper, that'd be different... Ah, April Wine, one of mullet-rock's buried gems. The canadians take good care of their boogie bands. how is it that i always end up discussing junk food with you? because junkfood and music that nobody besides me likes are the only things I have anything remotely resembling expertise in, so I grab hold of them whenever they're even remotely touched on. Otherwise, I'd just be hanging around here looking stupid.

By: euphorb

euphorb — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 22:00:29 -0800

I would've laughed too. Then I saw a video with members from all three bands crammed into a tiny room playing REO's Keep on Rolling. There must have been 12 guitars packed in that space and they sounded incredible. It was quite the jam.

By: sixdifferentways

sixdifferentways — Fri, 23 Jul 2004 01:24:46 -0800

Don't stop believin' Hold on to the feelin' Streetlight people

By: Ethereal Bligh

Ethereal Bligh — Fri, 23 Jul 2004 03:39:48 -0800

I've actually discovered that I like Foreigner a lot in retrospect. Can't say the same for these bands, though. Also, Loverboy has always sucked.

By: SweetIceT

SweetIceT — Fri, 23 Jul 2004 06:01:48 -0800

What I want to know is...will there be a "Ganja Taste Testing Tour" for these old rockers when they hit Jamaica? That would be the shit now wouldn't it?

By: chicobangs

chicobangs — Fri, 23 Jul 2004 07:03:41 -0800

EB, it pains me, but I gotta side with Carl on this one. Loverboy was as good as, uh, well, disco ever was, at least. (That's not gonna win you over, is it. Hm.) Okay, it doesn't pain me too much. What pains me (srry, commish) are those awful coffee ads on OLN. They're wretched. It hurts to see Survivor debase themselves so completely. (Though it does kind of indicate how little they got paid for it the first time around.)

By: echolalia67

echolalia67 — Fri, 23 Jul 2004 19:46:08 -0800

jonmc: Journey at their best was fairly high end AOR, mainly cause Steve Perry had such a good set of pipes and Neal Schon had good guitar chops from his time as Carlos Santana's teenage protege. Journey... A band that I have a love/hate relationship with, mostly hate. Being from San Francisco, they were so massively huge that I had to pretend to like them in order not to get my ass kicked in Jr. High. I thought their stuff was fluffy, mawkish, and shallow, not to mention that most of the people I knew that were into them were morons with barely contained sociopathic tendencies - these were the kids who went downtown for a festive night of queer-bashing every weekend. Then again, I always loved the production on their records, how they managed to make a massive guitar assault, yet still sound really crisp and clean. "Wheel in the Sky" is an amazing song. And for reasons unknown, they had the criminally under-acknowleged local punk band, The Mutants, open their local shows. Just doing my part to keep this from becoming a total mullet-bash. Quality Mullet-Rock: Thin Lizzy, Areosmith (the 70's stuff, not their more recent crap) & Boston. Not REO Speedwagon, ever. I do have to admit that the early Bob Seeger stuff I've heard rocked pretty hard. By the time that the mid - late 70's rolled around though, he pretty much sucked ass , thereby adding credence to my theory that great bands become increasingly suckier in direct correlation to their increasing popularity.

By: dejah420

dejah420 — Fri, 23 Jul 2004 21:55:55 -0800

If you'd rather sail with a bunch of hippies, there's always Jam Cruise. Or...if you'd rather be with stoners, there's always the Cannabis Cup. I understand they're scattering Z-28s and Firebirds around one of the decks for making out in. by mccreath Heh. Comedy gold. As to the lineup, it indeed could have been much, much worse. Imagine the horror of being trapped in open water with Cinderella, Ratt, and White Snake.