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Borat the Kazahk goes to a redneck bar. Something light to laugh at for Friday afternoon. (.wmv file)
The main page is here, but it's funnier if you don't read the lyrics and wimpy disclaimer first.
There's a veritable *torrent* of Ali G on the intarweb. All of it gold!
posted by scarabic at 11:31 AM on August 13, 2004
posted by scarabic at 11:31 AM on August 13, 2004
'Throw the jew down the well', they chorussed!
Wow, less than 6 degrees of separation of anti-Semite cowboy or anti-Semite faux Kazhak. Deeply discomforting (as indeed is most of Sacha Baron-Cohen's stuff).
posted by dash_slot- at 11:34 AM on August 13, 2004
Wow, less than 6 degrees of separation of anti-Semite cowboy or anti-Semite faux Kazhak. Deeply discomforting (as indeed is most of Sacha Baron-Cohen's stuff).
posted by dash_slot- at 11:34 AM on August 13, 2004
It their scary claws that are the problem.
Or maybe it's scarier how many people sang along with the chorus.
posted by mimi at 11:39 AM on August 13, 2004
Or maybe it's scarier how many people sang along with the chorus.
posted by mimi at 11:39 AM on August 13, 2004
This is a rather confusing incident. At first they're cheering him on and all, which is surprising given that he doesn't seem to speak English all that well and can't really sing. But then they sing along with chorus and that just blows my mind.
posted by tommasz at 11:44 AM on August 13, 2004
posted by tommasz at 11:44 AM on August 13, 2004
Its a farce. He's a character. The actor/comedian who portrays Borak, Sacha Baron-Cohen, in fact speaks a beautifully even and easy English. He is also Jewish. Its like how black people are allowed to use the n-word, ya know?
posted by ChasFile at 11:59 AM on August 13, 2004
posted by ChasFile at 11:59 AM on August 13, 2004
I heard this on Howard Stern last week and have been begging for video, thanks!
posted by Peter H at 12:02 PM on August 13, 2004
posted by Peter H at 12:02 PM on August 13, 2004
Lawdy lawdy I was fighting down laughter at work, and I even had my headphones on.
Brilliant.
Chasfile - since it says that at the beginning, we know. Thanks.
posted by kavasa at 12:03 PM on August 13, 2004
Brilliant.
Chasfile - since it says that at the beginning, we know. Thanks.
posted by kavasa at 12:03 PM on August 13, 2004
Its a farce. He's a character. The actor/comedian who portrays Borak, Sacha Baron-Cohen, in fact speaks a beautifully even and easy English. He is also Jewish. Its like how black people are allowed to use the n-word, ya know?
Um, we know.
It's not Borat's antics - it's the enthusiastic joining in by the audience that rasies eyebrows. Borat (and SBC's other characters) are at their best when they've tricked someone else into exposing their racism. I LIKE YOU!!!!!!!!!
posted by mimi at 12:08 PM on August 13, 2004
Um, we know.
It's not Borat's antics - it's the enthusiastic joining in by the audience that rasies eyebrows. Borat (and SBC's other characters) are at their best when they've tricked someone else into exposing their racism. I LIKE YOU!!!!!!!!!
posted by mimi at 12:08 PM on August 13, 2004
im glad tommasz is on the face of the earth so we dont have to be
posted by Satapher at 12:13 PM on August 13, 2004
posted by Satapher at 12:13 PM on August 13, 2004
I'm sure everyone is aware (even though it hasn't been mentioned so far in this thread) that the video is from Da Ali G Show on HBO, which airs every Sunday.
There's a veritable *torrent* of Ali G on the intarweb. All of it gold!
Hmmmmm... What are you trying to get at?
posted by SweetJesus at 12:21 PM on August 13, 2004
There's a veritable *torrent* of Ali G on the intarweb. All of it gold!
Hmmmmm... What are you trying to get at?
posted by SweetJesus at 12:21 PM on August 13, 2004
It keeps crapping out on me 3/4s of the way through.
Also, maybe I'm misunderstanding... is this a skit? Meaning, are the members of the audience part of the performance? Cause when I read the post I thought that it was saying this guy was performing and theserednecks people were entusiastically singing along. But when I watch the clip it seems entirely staged as if it's really just a tv show (or whatever it is) making fun of people rednecks and country music.
Not that I really care either way. It's funny. I just think that those people are way too unaware of the camera for this to be real (ie. they're not self conscious in the least, which I find strange).
posted by dobbs at 12:29 PM on August 13, 2004
Also, maybe I'm misunderstanding... is this a skit? Meaning, are the members of the audience part of the performance? Cause when I read the post I thought that it was saying this guy was performing and these
Not that I really care either way. It's funny. I just think that those people are way too unaware of the camera for this to be real (ie. they're not self conscious in the least, which I find strange).
posted by dobbs at 12:29 PM on August 13, 2004
I got the impression that it wasn't staged-- which is part of what makes it so surreal. If it is staged, they do a damn good job-- frankly, I could believe a redneck bar getting so into the song "Throw the Jew Down the Well" that they stop being so self-conscious of the camera. That's the frightening part.
posted by nath at 12:40 PM on August 13, 2004
posted by nath at 12:40 PM on August 13, 2004
sorry to be an everlasting snark, but this is hardly funny or revealing any "redneck" prejudice (nevermind the offensiveness of the word redneck).
it's extremely cheap humor. he gets drunken people to sing along with a seemingly harmless song, then throws in the Jew stuff halfway through. i counted maybe four people who really got into it (red-white striped guy, asian-looking woman making the horns, the drunk white chick, and the confused woman with glasses). the rest of the patrons actually looked offended, or more likely, aware that it was a big fat joke (based on the camera crew filming an untalented singer).
four anti-semites in a country bar that crowded is way better than i expected. it sorta even brightened my day. so thanks for that.
i must be one of the only people who doesn't find Cohen funny at all. he was a one-joke pony, now he's a three-joke pony. Borat does this casual anti-semite baiting in every skit. zzzzzzzzzz.
posted by mrgrimm at 12:43 PM on August 13, 2004
it's extremely cheap humor. he gets drunken people to sing along with a seemingly harmless song, then throws in the Jew stuff halfway through. i counted maybe four people who really got into it (red-white striped guy, asian-looking woman making the horns, the drunk white chick, and the confused woman with glasses). the rest of the patrons actually looked offended, or more likely, aware that it was a big fat joke (based on the camera crew filming an untalented singer).
four anti-semites in a country bar that crowded is way better than i expected. it sorta even brightened my day. so thanks for that.
i must be one of the only people who doesn't find Cohen funny at all. he was a one-joke pony, now he's a three-joke pony. Borat does this casual anti-semite baiting in every skit. zzzzzzzzzz.
posted by mrgrimm at 12:43 PM on August 13, 2004
His stuff isn't staged at all. The whole point is dealing googlies to the unawares and seeing how they react. With hilarious consequences, or something.
mrgrimm, I hear casual anti-semitism is quite the rage in Eastern Europe.
Borat's Television Programme starts tonight in the UK on Channel 4. I think it's edited highlights of the HBO series.
posted by Blue Stone at 12:53 PM on August 13, 2004
mrgrimm, I hear casual anti-semitism is quite the rage in Eastern Europe.
Borat's Television Programme starts tonight in the UK on Channel 4. I think it's edited highlights of the HBO series.
posted by Blue Stone at 12:53 PM on August 13, 2004
For those of you who flamed me for pointing out that this was a character, first go back and read the comment directly above mine (which is what I was replying to) and some of the ones that follow regarding the confusion people have about this clip and its level of "real"-ness. Then come back and flame me some more.
posted by ChasFile at 1:30 PM on August 13, 2004
posted by ChasFile at 1:30 PM on August 13, 2004
Ali G is hilarious. His american show's really gotten better this season with his understanding of where to poke at the culture.
posted by Tlogmer at 1:52 PM on August 13, 2004
posted by Tlogmer at 1:52 PM on August 13, 2004
[lazy -ville] hmmm
[lazy -ville] somehow ali g even confused metafilter
[lazy -ville] http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/34967
[dreamghost] you say that like its a hard thing?
[lazy -ville] well
[lazy -ville] good point
[brownpau] haha
posted by Dreamghost at 2:11 PM on August 13, 2004
[lazy -ville] somehow ali g even confused metafilter
[lazy -ville] http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/34967
[dreamghost] you say that like its a hard thing?
[lazy -ville] well
[lazy -ville] good point
[brownpau] haha
posted by Dreamghost at 2:11 PM on August 13, 2004
This really made me chuckle. It reminded me, though, of the original: Kinky Friedman (who, incidentally, is running for governor of Texas).
If you want to see the epitome of the intersection of Jewish humor and country music, one needs to look no further than inimitable Kinky Friedman and the Texas Jewboys. During the 70's and 80's the Texas Jewboys challenged the notion that country music was only for rednecks with their own brand of humor in songs like "Ride 'em Jewboy," "High on Jesus," and "The First Jewish Justice of the Peace." The pinnacle of which was "They Ain't Makin' Jews Like Jesus Anymore".
Well, a redneck nerd in a bowling shirt was a-guzzlin’ Lone Star beer
Talking religion and-uh politics for all the world to hear.
“They oughta send you back to Russia, boy, or New York City one
You just want to doodle a Christian girl and you killed God’s only son.”
I said, “Has it occurred to you, you nerd, that that’s not very nice,
We Jews believe it was Santa Claus that killed Jesus Christ.”
Or the classic 70's Women's Lib anthem: Get Your Biscuits in the Oven and Your Buns in the Bed:
You uppity women I don’t understand
Why you gotta go and try to act like a man,
But before you make your weekly visit to the shrink
You’d better occupy the kitchen, liberate the sink.
posted by Seth at 2:38 PM on August 13, 2004
If you want to see the epitome of the intersection of Jewish humor and country music, one needs to look no further than inimitable Kinky Friedman and the Texas Jewboys. During the 70's and 80's the Texas Jewboys challenged the notion that country music was only for rednecks with their own brand of humor in songs like "Ride 'em Jewboy," "High on Jesus," and "The First Jewish Justice of the Peace." The pinnacle of which was "They Ain't Makin' Jews Like Jesus Anymore".
Well, a redneck nerd in a bowling shirt was a-guzzlin’ Lone Star beer
Talking religion and-uh politics for all the world to hear.
“They oughta send you back to Russia, boy, or New York City one
You just want to doodle a Christian girl and you killed God’s only son.”
I said, “Has it occurred to you, you nerd, that that’s not very nice,
We Jews believe it was Santa Claus that killed Jesus Christ.”
Or the classic 70's Women's Lib anthem: Get Your Biscuits in the Oven and Your Buns in the Bed:
You uppity women I don’t understand
Why you gotta go and try to act like a man,
But before you make your weekly visit to the shrink
You’d better occupy the kitchen, liberate the sink.
posted by Seth at 2:38 PM on August 13, 2004
I, for one, am amazed that the Ali G humour has spread across the Atlantic. After all, it's a fairly narrow section of British society that he's lampooning.
That said, this clip is pretty scary. I have no doubt that it was not staged. I'm also sure there was plenty of goings on earlier to put the audience at ease in the presence of the cameras. Just goes to show, in an alternate universe, the Nazis didn't necessarily have to come from Germany.
AiiI!
posted by salmacis at 2:49 PM on August 13, 2004
That said, this clip is pretty scary. I have no doubt that it was not staged. I'm also sure there was plenty of goings on earlier to put the audience at ease in the presence of the cameras. Just goes to show, in an alternate universe, the Nazis didn't necessarily have to come from Germany.
AiiI!
posted by salmacis at 2:49 PM on August 13, 2004
I, for one, am amazed that the Ali G humour has spread across the Atlantic. After all, it's a fairly narrow section of British society that he's lampooning.
The humor is really found in people's reactions to him, instead of in the caricature. Certainly, the Ali G. character is funny too, but he's a much smaller part of it than the people who are being interviewed. And we have a similar section of society that's very analogous, anyway.
Borat is more stand-alone funny than Ali G., but it's still very dependant on reactions.
posted by Mayor Curley at 2:58 PM on August 13, 2004
The humor is really found in people's reactions to him, instead of in the caricature. Certainly, the Ali G. character is funny too, but he's a much smaller part of it than the people who are being interviewed. And we have a similar section of society that's very analogous, anyway.
Borat is more stand-alone funny than Ali G., but it's still very dependant on reactions.
posted by Mayor Curley at 2:58 PM on August 13, 2004
whats the name of the austrian fashioner designer? hes hilarious too.... that entire show is genius --- sometimes not so genius -- but mostly genius
he got Buchanan to say "well, I do think its right for us to invade a country that is harboring these weapons, be it WMDs or BLTs" (more or less)
posted by Satapher at 3:22 PM on August 13, 2004
he got Buchanan to say "well, I do think its right for us to invade a country that is harboring these weapons, be it WMDs or BLTs" (more or less)
posted by Satapher at 3:22 PM on August 13, 2004
I really like Ali G, but the movie is so juvenile, and juvenile with miminal irony at that. (I accidentally got it as a fake downlad on suprnova, for the record, yes it's so bad I'd regret downloading it voluntarily ;) )
posted by abcde at 3:23 PM on August 13, 2004
posted by abcde at 3:23 PM on August 13, 2004
whats the name of the austrian fashioner designer? hes hilarious too.... that entire show is genius --- sometimes not so genius -- but mostly genius
Bruno:-
posted by SpaceCadet at 3:31 PM on August 13, 2004
Bruno:-
posted by SpaceCadet at 3:31 PM on August 13, 2004
For those of you who flamed me for pointing out that this was a character,
I wasn't confused about it being a character. I was curious as to whether it was a tv show making fun of c+w people or c+w people digging their own hole.
Kinky Friedman (who, incidentally, is running for governor of Texas).
WTF? I thought Friedman died in the mid-90s. I'd swear I read multiple articles about it. Did he fake his own death or pull some hoax or something? I'm stunned to find out he's still alive!
posted by dobbs at 3:44 PM on August 13, 2004
I wasn't confused about it being a character. I was curious as to whether it was a tv show making fun of c+w people or c+w people digging their own hole.
Kinky Friedman (who, incidentally, is running for governor of Texas).
WTF? I thought Friedman died in the mid-90s. I'd swear I read multiple articles about it. Did he fake his own death or pull some hoax or something? I'm stunned to find out he's still alive!
posted by dobbs at 3:44 PM on August 13, 2004
dobbs,
He is alive and kicking. He writes the back page article in Texas Monthly, and it is almost uniformlygood great. He also was recently on a book tour for his latest book. He is an excellent writer of local color and humor. Reminds me of John Kennedy O'Toole.
But, yes, if you check out his website, he is running for governor. Of course, I think it is just a halfass move.
posted by Seth at 3:47 PM on August 13, 2004
He is alive and kicking. He writes the back page article in Texas Monthly, and it is almost uniformly
But, yes, if you check out his website, he is running for governor. Of course, I think it is just a halfass move.
posted by Seth at 3:47 PM on August 13, 2004
Ali G is hilarious. His american show's really gotten better this season with his understanding of where to poke at the culture.
There was a list of writers at the end of the show, so maybe that's part of the reason it's funnier than Ali G In Da USAiiiiiiii
posted by MarkC at 4:56 PM on August 13, 2004
There was a list of writers at the end of the show, so maybe that's part of the reason it's funnier than Ali G In Da USAiiiiiiii
posted by MarkC at 4:56 PM on August 13, 2004
Man points out some renecks may be anti-semetic. Film at eleven.
Coming up, the Klan may not like black people.
Seriously, SBC (as we like to refer to him in Kilburn) is great when he skewers those in power (see his wonderful skit with those in Northern Ireland), but this is just cheap. Getting slightly right wing drunk males to sing along with anti semetic lyrics reveals what exactly? That a bar has idiots in it? Do it on someone who has some power and it has a point, these people are just deluded saps and he gets them to perform like seals. It tells me nothing about America. His interviews with politicians however speaks volumes about those who stand for office.
posted by ciderwoman at 5:07 PM on August 13, 2004
Coming up, the Klan may not like black people.
Seriously, SBC (as we like to refer to him in Kilburn) is great when he skewers those in power (see his wonderful skit with those in Northern Ireland), but this is just cheap. Getting slightly right wing drunk males to sing along with anti semetic lyrics reveals what exactly? That a bar has idiots in it? Do it on someone who has some power and it has a point, these people are just deluded saps and he gets them to perform like seals. It tells me nothing about America. His interviews with politicians however speaks volumes about those who stand for office.
posted by ciderwoman at 5:07 PM on August 13, 2004
bruno is not a fashion designer himself. he is, however, chrysler's muse.
posted by mr.marx at 5:23 PM on August 13, 2004
posted by mr.marx at 5:23 PM on August 13, 2004
The biggest bigots live in Brooklyn. Visit the more cloistered areas sometime. Rednecks are way overrated.
posted by HTuttle at 5:26 PM on August 13, 2004
posted by HTuttle at 5:26 PM on August 13, 2004
Simon-Baron Cohen is Ali G's Uncle? or perhaps a cousin or a brother...
anyway, there's definitely a family resemblance.
posted by LimePi at 6:42 PM on August 13, 2004
anyway, there's definitely a family resemblance.
posted by LimePi at 6:42 PM on August 13, 2004
Tough crowd. I like the way that there seems to be a knee-jerk reaction that this sketch was like shooting fish in a barrel. The man has cojones!
/offtopic
Europe has a 'latent anti-semitism' problem, aparently.
The Borat sketch at the winery featured some of the best physical comedy I have seen in ages.
SBC - big up yourself!
posted by asok at 9:31 AM on August 15, 2004
/offtopic
Europe has a 'latent anti-semitism' problem, aparently.
The Borat sketch at the winery featured some of the best physical comedy I have seen in ages.
SBC - big up yourself!
posted by asok at 9:31 AM on August 15, 2004
In Kazhakistan, we say woman who vote is like horse who can count.
...priceless.
posted by seanyboy at 2:59 PM on August 15, 2004
...priceless.
posted by seanyboy at 2:59 PM on August 15, 2004
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