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	<title>Comments on: The Magic 7</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2004 00:37:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>The Magic 7</title>
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		<description>What&apos;s stranger than &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001404/&quot;&gt;Madeline Kahn&lt;/a&gt; (who passed away 5 years ago) appearing in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0113735/&quot;&gt;an upcoming animated feature for TV&lt;/a&gt;?  Her co-star is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001006/&quot;&gt;John Candy&lt;/a&gt;, who&apos;s been dead for a decade.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Aug 2004 22:44:49 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>RavinDave</dc:creator>		<category>obituary</category>		<category>animation</category>		<category>madelinekahn</category>		<category>johncandy</category>		<category>television</category>
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		<title>By: mischief</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/35267/The-Magic-7#725317</link>	
		<description>Their deaths probably explain the following imdb entry:

Production Notes/Status:

Status: Unknown 
Comments:  
&lt;b&gt;Status Updated: 27 September 2002 &lt;/b&gt;
Note: Since this project is categorized as being in production, the data is subject to change or could be removed completely.</description>
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		<title>By: wsg</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/35267/The-Magic-7#725318</link>	
		<description>What a cast!

Credited cast:  
Jason Aaron Baca ....  Zack 
Kevin Bacon ....  Himself 
John Candy ....  Smokestack Sam (voice) 
Judy Collins ....  Herself 
Ted Danson ....  Sean&apos;s Dad 
Cory Danziger ....  Sean 
Michael J. Fox ....  Marcel Maggot (voice) 
Jennifer Love Hewitt ....  Erica 
Ice-T ....  Dr. Scratch (voice) 
Jeremy Irons ....  Thraxx (voice) 
James Earl Jones ....  5-Toe (voice) 
Madeline Kahn ....  Wastra (voice) 
Bette Midler ....  Herself 
Demi Moore ....  U-Z-Onesa (voice) 
Olivia Newton-John ....  Herself 
Meryl Streep ....  Herself 
Dee Wallace-Stone ....  Sean&apos;s Mom (as Dee Wallace Stone) 
Henry Winkler ....  Himself 

This can&apos;t be real.  Come on now...</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2004 00:38:19 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: twine42</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/35267/The-Magic-7#725323</link>	
		<description>Is this really that odd? The page says that the project was started in the 1990&apos;s. The voices are normally the first thing worked on, so it&apos;s kind of understandable.

Certainly nothing like as odd as the Ford commericals a few years ago. Watching Steve McQueen driving a Puma around San Francisco was just odd.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2004 01:33:42 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>twine42</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: dglynn</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/35267/The-Magic-7#725326</link>	
		<description>I don&apos;t think that ad ran in the US, twine.

I&apos;m guessing, since I don&apos;t remember a Puma in the US car market. Also, I think maybe the McQueen icon status thingy would play differently overseas than here. Unless a Puma is a Mustang, and you are talking about scenes from Bullitt?

Nah, I guess it was a new car(said Puma) with McQueen dubbed in, in which case, yes, that would be creepy here, until the first company did it, and then people would get over it, which would be even creepier, but no one would ever mention that creepiness, which would make it truly American.

And on that note, hearing John Candy&apos;s voice coming out of an animated character here would be bizarrely appropriate. &quot;John Candy in his last role&quot; would be one of the marketing themes. Yes, they would sell the creepiness.

Which means of course it could generate enough buzz to do $20 Million in rentals in the US, and add in internatinional returns and it&apos;s a no-brainer. Coming to a LackLuster Video near you soon.

Seriously, cash over-rules any compunction in the US today. It&apos;ll happen if the bean-counters say go. Kids who are 5 years old today will sell  a Xerox copy of their Grandma&apos;s ass cheeks from an office Cristmas party in 1988 on EBay in 2028, once the picture clears probate.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2004 02:43:02 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: twine42</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/35267/The-Magic-7#725327</link>	
		<description>The &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.forddesktops.com/view.asp?action=puma&quot;&gt;Ford Puma&lt;/a&gt; was one of those &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.clemente.co.uk/puma/html/gallery.htm&quot;&gt;&apos;sports cars&apos;&lt;/a&gt; based on something else. It was either based on the Focus or the smaller &lt;a href=&quot;ftp://ftp.team.net/ktud/pictures/IAA_95/fr35.jpg&quot;&gt;Fiesta&lt;/a&gt;, I forget which.

The advert had shots of McQueen spliced into the Puma, driving it around the city, then taking it back and parking it in a garage next to the Mustang. Beautifully done.

Ford did it again with the larger Cougar (Mercury Cougar in the US if my GT3 memory serves correctly) and a guy on a motorbike who I didn&apos;t recognise.

&lt;small&gt;Right... I&apos;m feeling sickly (on a bank holiday!) so I&apos;m going back to watching Dity Harry movies...&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2004 03:00:57 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>twine42</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: JollyWanker</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/35267/The-Magic-7#725346</link>	
		<description>I don&apos;t see this as that much of an issue... Kahn and Candy both recorded their complete audio tracks while they were alive, it&apos;s not like they&apos;re splicing together dialogue from other sources. And it&apos;s &lt;i&gt;just&lt;/i&gt; their voices that&apos;re being used, so, nothing&apos;s being &quot;added&quot; that would not have been there had they been living now. Although I&apos;m no particular fan of Candy, Kahn was among my favorite performers for years and years, so I&apos;m actually very happy to hear that this performance might finally be available...</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2004 05:35:48 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: majcher</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/35267/The-Magic-7#725378</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;I don&apos;t think that ad ran in the US, twine.&lt;/i&gt;

And therefore, doesn&apos;t count.  Silly foreigners.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2004 06:57:24 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bwerdmuller</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/35267/The-Magic-7#725382</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Ford did it again with the larger Cougar (Mercury Cougar in the US if my GT3 memory serves correctly) and a guy on a motorbike who I didn&apos;t recognise.&lt;/i&gt;

Was it not Dennis Hopper, completely selling out his &lt;i&gt;Easy Rider&lt;/i&gt; role?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2004 07:03:14 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: XQUZYPHYR</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/35267/The-Magic-7#725405</link>	
		<description>Shrek took four and a half years to make, voice recording is the second thing done in any animated production, right after the thing actually being written.  

Though longer than usual, this, or the celebrity lineup, isn&apos;t that odd.  Most celebrities love the idea of being a cartoon voice, and studios can get them because they&apos;ll happily take scale for about three hours of work on something they consider a gift for their kids.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2004 07:42:16 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>XQUZYPHYR</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Epenthesis</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/35267/The-Magic-7#725418</link>	
		<description>All the &quot;himself&quot; and &quot;herself&quot; credits are a mite suspicious, though I can&apos;t say whether it&apos;s less believable that Meryl Streep would &lt;i&gt;do&lt;/i&gt; it or that Henry Winkler would even be &lt;i&gt;asked&lt;/i&gt;. And (assuming the credits not specified as &quot;voice&quot; are live actors) Dee Wallace Stone is oh, twenty years past the point of being credible as the mom in a kid&apos;s movie, unless the video footage is as old as the voice footage.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2004 07:58:19 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dodgygeezer</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/35267/The-Magic-7#725463</link>	
		<description>The film &lt;a href=&quot;http://imdb.com/title/tt0112389/&quot;&gt;Arabian Knight&lt;/a&gt; featured the voice of Vincent Price even though he&apos;d died a few years earlier.  Ironically, while the voices had been recorded before animation began, Price&apos;s was the only voice that survived to the eventual release.  It&apos;s a real shame what they did to that film - it could&apos;ve been great.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2004 08:57:35 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mischief</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/35267/The-Magic-7#725465</link>	
		<description>&quot;Dee Wallace Stone is oh, twenty years past the point of being credible&quot;

That was pretty much my point; this project will probably never be finished, especially if the producers must pay that has-been cast more money upon release.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2004 08:57:45 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: darren</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/35267/The-Magic-7#725590</link>	
		<description>Films that sit on the shelf this long do so for a reason. Probably will really suck.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2004 12:29:21 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: davidmsc</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/35267/The-Magic-7#725594</link>	
		<description>majcher:&lt;i&gt;I don&apos;t think that ad ran in the US, twine.

And therefore, doesn&apos;t count. Silly foreigners.&lt;/i&gt;

Huh?  He was only making a statement that, as someone who (apparently) lives in the US, he didn&apos;t have the opportunity to see the ad in question.

Way to over-reach, majcher.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2004 12:42:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: majcher</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/35267/The-Magic-7#726091</link>	
		<description>Easy there, jumpy.  Little joke.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2004 11:09:18 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>majcher</dc:creator>
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