Comments on: Out out, damn shrub.

Out out, damn shrub.

krisjohn — Wed, 08 Sep 2004 19:46:52 -0800

World wants Bush out. "Only one in five want to see Bush re-elected," "Senator Kerry was particularly favoured in traditionally strong US allies." Should America take into consideration the international support of their presidential hopefuls, or can they really go it alone in today's global community?

By: namespan

namespan — Wed, 08 Sep 2004 19:58:16 -0800

Going it alone: mistake. Identifying as a favorite of furriners: election fatality in half of the 50 states.

By: dobbs

dobbs — Wed, 08 Sep 2004 19:59:55 -0800

"Global community"? What the fuck you talking about? When it benefits America to pretend there's one--when they want to exploit some part of the world for profit--they'll do so. But in the country's heart of hearts there is America and the rest of the planet.

By: mr_crash_davis

mr_crash_davis — Wed, 08 Sep 2004 20:01:27 -0800

A world with less bush is a sad world indeed.

By: quonsar

quonsar — Wed, 08 Sep 2004 20:46:53 -0800

WAX BUSH

By: MrAnonymous

MrAnonymous — Wed, 08 Sep 2004 20:46:56 -0800

Should America take into consideration the international support of their presidential hopefuls...? Hahahaha! Hahaha! Aha! Ha! ... No. What? You hippies want the UN to vote for our president? Give me a break.

By: tsarfan

tsarfan — Wed, 08 Sep 2004 20:48:51 -0800

but he liberated iraq

By: Quartermass

Quartermass — Wed, 08 Sep 2004 20:58:54 -0800

Hahahaha! Hahaha! Aha! Ha! ... No. What? You hippies want the UN to vote for our president? Give me a break. Since when is this a "hippy" thing?

By: SPrintF

SPrintF — Wed, 08 Sep 2004 21:10:49 -0800

A concerted policing effort by the global community is the only answer to stateless terrorism. It is entirely reasonable, then, to desire an administration that can credibly call for and carry out an organized, global response. It's a legitimate issue; hardly a "hippy" matter.

By: ParisParamus

ParisParamus — Wed, 08 Sep 2004 21:13:05 -0800

Are we tired of this yet?

By: cinematique

cinematique — Wed, 08 Sep 2004 21:32:42 -0800

I think the blue needs more anti-Bush posts. I haven't seen quite enough. And frankly, it's disheartening.

By: David Dark

David Dark — Wed, 08 Sep 2004 21:44:39 -0800

I don't remember the rest of the world asking me who they should vote for.

By: cinematique

cinematique — Wed, 08 Sep 2004 21:49:11 -0800

I wish more people, especially journalists, realized polls are downright dangerous to use for news stories, regardless of how well they think they're conducted.

By: Mick

Mick — Wed, 08 Sep 2004 21:54:24 -0800

This is a great story, I think every pro-Kerry person should be sure to use this story as a talking point. Mention it on your blog, to your friends, call in to talk radio and bring this up, demand your local paper cover this poll, and link it in your .sig.

By: clevershark

clevershark — Wed, 08 Sep 2004 22:00:26 -0800

Well, it's your vote indeed. However it's also true that by reelecting a warmongering unilateralist it's quite likely that the US will gradually lose its standing and power of moral suasion in much of the world. One needs only look at Bush's "Coalition of the Willing" to realize that America under Bush fils simply can't get a coalition happening like it could under Bush père.

By: cell divide

cell divide — Wed, 08 Sep 2004 22:13:03 -0800

NO MORE BUSH POSTS I DONT CARE AND I READ DRUDGE REPORT ANYWAY

By: bobo123

bobo123 — Wed, 08 Sep 2004 22:35:14 -0800

I found this Canadian newspaper poll amusing: Who would you most like to see win the U.S. presidential election in November? George W. Bush - 3913 votes (11 %) John Kerry - 11293 votes (31 %) Ralph Nader - 21644 votes (59 %)

By: bashos_frog

bashos_frog — Wed, 08 Sep 2004 23:08:01 -0800

I don't remember the rest of the world asking me who they should vote for. They don't have to ask - we just tell them. Iraq, Venezuela, Chile, Iran, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Guatemala, Panama, Haiti, Cuba, Phillipines - any of these places ring a bell?

By: Snyder

Snyder — Wed, 08 Sep 2004 23:32:00 -0800

I'm not interested in hearing how my next door neighbors think I should vote, (beyond an academic sense,) why should I care more about what someone in Melbourne or Rio thinks?

By: bashos_frog

bashos_frog — Wed, 08 Sep 2004 23:37:32 -0800

I guess it's not so fun hearing large masses of people calling for a change of regime in the country you live in - even if they're not threatening you with a heavy bombardment of cruise missiles just yet.

By: krisjohn

krisjohn — Wed, 08 Sep 2004 23:53:10 -0800

bashos_frog wins the thread.

By: fullerine

fullerine — Thu, 09 Sep 2004 01:53:38 -0800

can they [the USA] really go it alone in today's global community?" Speaking on behalf of everyone else in the world, I think when Bush wins you'll find out the answer to that one.

By: jfuller

jfuller — Thu, 09 Sep 2004 04:22:39 -0800

> A concerted policing effort by the global community is the only answer to > stateless terrorism. Policing by a (stateless!) wooly abstraction? Kewl! Run up the Jolly Roger.

By: gyc

gyc — Thu, 09 Sep 2004 13:13:00 -0800

This is probably very bad news for President Bush. Oh, wait, only U.S. citizens get to vote for President of the United States.

By: rough ashlar

rough ashlar — Thu, 09 Sep 2004 13:45:47 -0800

The world doesn't have to care one way or the other. All the world has to do is reprice oil in Euro's.

By: ParisParamus

ParisParamus — Thu, 09 Sep 2004 13:50:10 -0800

You do realize that the perception that the President is disliked globally is, actually, a way to rally domestic support for Bush?

By: XQUZYPHYR

XQUZYPHYR — Thu, 09 Sep 2004 16:08:28 -0800

Good thing no one registered to vote in America came from other parts of the world.

By: haqspan

haqspan — Thu, 09 Sep 2004 16:15:38 -0800

I don't recall the UK asking me who it should have for its prime minister. And they've got nuclear weapons and helped invade Iraq.

By: stavrosthewonderchicken

stavrosthewonderchicken — Thu, 09 Sep 2004 16:31:11 -0800

You do realize that the perception that the President is disliked globally is, actually, a way to rally domestic support for Bush? In the same way that the perception that there was no reason to invade Iraq buttresses support for that little misadventure? Certainly, amongst the same blockhead-demographic. But they're slowly being weeded out of the genepool through accidentally shooting themselves and stuff, so no problem there.

By: Witold

Witold — Thu, 09 Sep 2004 17:25:15 -0800

Well, most of the 'world' is ruled by socialists, communists, theocracts, cronies, or outright despots. They obviously want someone who will overlook their cronyism and sepotism... someone like Kerry. Point is, the 'world' sucks and we shouldn't put much weight as to what they want.

By: krisjohn

krisjohn — Thu, 09 Sep 2004 17:45:09 -0800

Witold, you forgot your sarcasm tags. I hope.

By: MrAnonymous

MrAnonymous — Thu, 09 Sep 2004 21:34:48 -0800

Witold, well put. You didn't intend to have sarcasm tags. I hope.

By: SoftRain

SoftRain — Fri, 10 Sep 2004 15:46:53 -0800

I don't remember the rest of the world asking me who they should vote for. Having an opinion on the subject isn't the same thing as telling you who to vote for. Even Canadian-American relations have somewhat broken down, and Canada is hardly "ruled by socialists, communists, theocracts, cronies, or outright despots." It's not like it doesn't affect us. You guys have all the money and the nukes and the opinions about how the world should be run.