Comments on: RIAA-friendly P2P?

RIAA-friendly P2P?

dash_slot- — Thu, 23 Sep 2004 19:53:49 -0800

Grouper, a different form of P2P.
"The Grouper program does not allow file sharing of music, only streaming. However, you may share other types of files as a download. On the plus side for the persons sharing, Grouper allows the formation of mini networks with email verification. The advantage of this is no script kiddies or annoying fake files from the RIAA." You are sharing privately between friends.
Welcome to the world of legal online music ambiguity. Say hello to Grouper.

By: amberglow

amberglow — Thu, 23 Sep 2004 20:08:32 -0800

no mac version? : <

By: headspace

headspace — Thu, 23 Sep 2004 20:12:47 -0800

So, basically, I could listen to my friends' songs, and then they could zip them up and let me download them, right?

By: rushmc

rushmc — Thu, 23 Sep 2004 20:26:56 -0800

Get back to me when it's not crippleware.

By: b1tr0t

b1tr0t — Thu, 23 Sep 2004 20:30:55 -0800

but I can share MetallicasGreatestHits.tar.gz, right?

By: dash_slot-

dash_slot- — Thu, 23 Sep 2004 20:38:43 -0800

amberglow: Apparently not yet, m'dear. All things come to those who wait...heheh. (",) Yeah, that would work, headspace, but I see that as a good example of friends sharing too, which has some traditional protection. This way it's suck and see, first. Plus, it's another 'choke' on file-sharing. rushmc: I doubt that it'll be freed up like that. The so-called crippling is a feature, not a bug. 2 thoughts: this may be popular with the less tech-savvy, RIAA-fearful silver surfer crowd. Also, I wonder how blogs can be used as an adjunct - will bloggers adopt this, or avoid it as a lame duck, as rushmc says? It has IM & chat features, so how else can it be extended? Anyone feel like testing it with me? In other news, CD album sales (excluding compilations) rose last year in the UK, whilst the Majors failed to act to halt the decline of the single. They have not adjusted to the new music economy - but they will, or will lose out to the independents in shipping units. I suspect that Grouper will not hit sales at all, but will give folk a taste for new albums and artistes - then go and buy the CD. Westerners have such attachments to their possessions...

By: kamylyon

kamylyon — Thu, 23 Sep 2004 20:53:30 -0800

I have it installed f you want to try it out ./ same name

By: dash_slot-

dash_slot- — Thu, 23 Sep 2004 21:01:13 -0800

kamylyon - my ISP is a bit spotty - can't reach it right now :( I'll do it tomorrow and contact you then.

By: JParker

JParker — Thu, 23 Sep 2004 22:28:35 -0800

So how is this better than Mercora?

By: skylar

skylar — Fri, 24 Sep 2004 00:20:47 -0800

Kamylyon, have you registered with the same e-mail address that is on your profile?

By: seanyboy

seanyboy — Fri, 24 Sep 2004 00:24:59 -0800

How also is this different to 3 degrees. Apart from the facts that it isn't produced by Microsoft, probably doesn't integrate seamlessly into the desktop, and is probably more l33t. (I'm seanbamforth @ the hotmail thing for you three degree users.)

By: dash_slot-

dash_slot- — Fri, 24 Sep 2004 01:38:36 -0800

Well, seanyboy & JParker, I can't answer that as I haven't tried 'em out. I have had a play around with Grouper with kamylyon & Phatty Lumpkin, and I must say I liked the experience. Streaming was good, and I got used to the interface reasonably quickly (thanks, kamylyon!) It did seem to be hard for my wee relic of a PC to stream well to the other Groupers: maybe that's a caveat. Modern quicker machines prolly would have no problem. Plus - I got recommendations a few new bands. It's all to the good!

By: SpaceCadet

SpaceCadet — Fri, 24 Sep 2004 01:54:09 -0800

MP3 Stream Recorder 2.2

By: lotsofno

lotsofno — Fri, 24 Sep 2004 04:10:59 -0800

I know some of them are former Nullsoft employees, but their about section seems to be ripping off Winamp's Team page.

By: dash_slot-

dash_slot- — Fri, 24 Sep 2004 04:21:33 -0800

Thx for the link, SpaceCadet. I'll try that out soon!

By: angry modem

angry modem — Fri, 24 Sep 2004 05:47:23 -0800

I'm still a fan of WASTE...

By: kamylyon

kamylyon — Fri, 24 Sep 2004 08:36:01 -0800

skylar: yes and I'll be on after work tonight dash_slot and phatty lumpkin: thanks for trying it out with me. It's an excellent way of sharing non-music files, while listening to to samplings of other people's music. angry modem: I have that installed somewhere!

By: dash_slot-

dash_slot- — Fri, 24 Sep 2004 09:11:04 -0800

See you later, then!

By: Blue Stone

Blue Stone — Fri, 24 Sep 2004 10:32:05 -0800

After downloading the 1.5 MB file, it wants to download a further 24 MB for the rest of the program?? Jesus. What's WASTE - a couple of megabytes? It takes 23MB to run the "only stream MP3" rule? Crippleware AND bloatware. Pass. </negative ninny>

By: matteo

matteo — Fri, 24 Sep 2004 12:58:19 -0800

looks fun but I second the cripple + bloat + non-Mac etc Matt, can I change my username to "negativeninny"?

By: dash_slot-

dash_slot- — Fri, 24 Sep 2004 15:02:24 -0800

I have to say, the second setup program is shockingly overweight - glad someone else mentioned it. If anything, that will put me off: I feel like I'm left with a fucking whale, tbh. The others mentioned are more obscure, harder to start it all up with - and scary.[/noobie]

By: kamylyon

kamylyon — Sat, 25 Sep 2004 20:50:07 -0800

Grouper is ok, but for sharing those files that Grouper won't allow (and the ones it does) the one angrymodem mentioned would be my first choice. Waste isn't that difficult to set up, if I can do it most anyone can.