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	<title>Comments on: Mayday, mayday, Estonia, please.</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 27 Sep 2004 11:45:14 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Mayday, mayday, Estonia, please.</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/35865/Mayday-mayday-Estonia-please</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/september/28/newsid_2542000/2542093.stm&quot;&gt;&quot;Mayday, mayday, Estonia, please.&quot;&lt;/a&gt; 10 years ago tonight, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.elaestonia.org/eng/index.php&quot;&gt;852 people&lt;/a&gt; lost their lives in the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dn.se/content/1/c6/32/47/62/estonia425.jpg&quot;&gt;cold dark waters&lt;/a&gt; of the Baltic Sea. In the middle of the night the ferry &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M/S_Estonia&quot;&gt;M/S Estonia&lt;/a&gt;, headed from Tallinn to Stockholm, suddenly &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/0409/26/NYHETER-LS-est-ounbild_368.jpg&quot;&gt;capsized &lt;/a&gt;and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dn.se/content/1/c6/32/47/62/estonia153.jpg&quot;&gt;sank&lt;/a&gt;. Only 137 people &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/0409/26/NYHETER-LS-est-flotte_368.jpg&quot;&gt;survived &lt;/a&gt;Europe&apos;s worst maritime disaster since World War II. (more inside)</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Sep 2004 11:43:14 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>mr.marx</dc:creator>		<category>estonia</category>		<category>ship</category>		<category>tragedy</category>		<category>accident</category>		<category>ocean</category>
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		<title>By: mr.marx</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/35865/Mayday-mayday-Estonia-please#740787</link>	
		<description>A joint &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.onnettomuustutkinta.fi/estonia/&quot;&gt;Swedish-Finnish-Estonian commission&lt;/a&gt; said the accident was caused by incompetent crew and design faults causing the ferry&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.statensmaritimamuseer.se/upload/bogvisir.jpg&quot;&gt;visor door&lt;/a&gt; to break lose in the hard weather. The commissions take on the course of events leading to the ferry sinking can be seen in a series of CGI animations: 1. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.estoniasamlingen.se/estoniasamlingen/video/divx/bogvisiret_lossnar.avi&quot;&gt;The visor breaks lose&lt;/a&gt;. 2. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.estoniasamlingen.se/estoniasamlingen/video/divx/sista_giren.avi&quot;&gt;The final yaw&lt;/a&gt;. 3. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.estoniasamlingen.se/estoniasamlingen/video/divx/mayday_kommunikationen.avi&quot;&gt;The mayday communication&lt;/a&gt;. 4. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.estoniasamlingen.se/estoniasamlingen/video/divx/slutet.avi&quot;&gt;The ending&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;small&gt;(Divx movies, other formats can be found &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.estoniasamlingen.se/estoniasamlingen/video/jaic_animation.aspx&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.)&lt;/small&gt;

The disaster is still very much an open wound, at least here in Sweden, home to 501 of the victims. And not everyone is satisfied with the governments actions and explanations. The &lt;a href=&quot;http://heiwaco.tripod.com/news.htm&quot;&gt;conspiracy &lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread78342/pg#pid802967&quot;&gt;theories&lt;/a&gt; have &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.balticstorm.com/english/index_en.shtml&quot;&gt;thrived&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<title>By: jalexei</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/35865/Mayday-mayday-Estonia-please#740812</link>	
		<description>I highly recommend William Langewiesche&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/prem/200405/langewiesche&quot;&gt;article&lt;/a&gt; (a link to a preview, I didn&apos;t find the whole article online, though it must be out there) in the May &apos;04  issue of the &lt;i&gt;Atlantic.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Sep 2004 12:39:25 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mayor Curley</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/35865/Mayday-mayday-Estonia-please#740814</link>	
		<description>Last year, I took a ferry from Tallinn to Helsinki. All I could think was &quot;Did they shut the door?&quot; But then I had plenty of Saku lager and I didn&apos;t worry so much.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Sep 2004 12:40:50 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: KirkJobSluder</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/35865/Mayday-mayday-Estonia-please#740820</link>	
		<description>Just for the curious, the mentioned WWII disaster was actually the worst maritime disaster ever, the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.feldgrau.com/wilhelmgustloff.html&quot;&gt;Wilhelm Gustlof&lt;/a&gt; with more than 7,000 estimated dead compared to  1,400 for the Titanic.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Sep 2004 12:49:57 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mr.marx</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/35865/Mayday-mayday-Estonia-please#740824</link>	
		<description>Found Langewiesche&apos;s article &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dcestonian.com/estonews/articles/04/sea051104.htm&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. Thanks for the tip, I looked all over for detalied articles in English. This one looks excellent. And horrifying.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Sep 2004 12:53:20 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The Card Cheat</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/35865/Mayday-mayday-Estonia-please#740832</link>	
		<description>That Atlantic article gave me nightmares when I read it a few months ago.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Sep 2004 13:06:55 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: hoskala</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/35865/Mayday-mayday-Estonia-please#740863</link>	
		<description>I remember the morning when the news came. I was visiting a national park here in Finland. Very quiet, very calm. The whole country seemed to slow down for a while.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Sep 2004 13:53:58 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nims</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/35865/Mayday-mayday-Estonia-please#740912</link>	
		<description>  Don&apos;t forget the &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/3142668.stm&quot;&gt;Joola disaster&lt;/a&gt; where 1800 people lost their lives 2 years ago (26 sep 2002).</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Sep 2004 15:32:31 -0800</pubDate>
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