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	<pubDate>Mon, 27 Sep 2004 23:23:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>bend over and kiss your ass goodbye!</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/35877/bend-over-and-kiss-your-ass-goodbye</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href="http://mryamamoto.topcities.com/bombs/bombs-pages/cover.htm"&gt;just in case atom bombs fall - a handbook for civilians.&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br /&gt;a neato keen early 50&apos;s civil defense booklet.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Sep 2004 23:22:27 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>quonsar</dc:creator>		<category>civildefense</category>		<category>50&apos;s</category>
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		<title>By: quonsar</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/35877/bend-over-and-kiss-your-ass-goodbye#741089</link>	
		<description>&lt;small&gt;and a &lt;a href=&quot;http://mirrors.meepzorp.com/just-in-case-atom-bombs-fall/&quot; title=&quot;big fat self-link&quot;&gt;mirror&lt;/a&gt; in case topsites limits bandwidth.&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Sep 2004 23:23:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: moonbiter</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/35877/bend-over-and-kiss-your-ass-goodbye#741096</link>	
		<description>What to do during an attack:&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;Keep cool.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Lie down.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Stay at home.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;And for God&apos;s sake &lt;strong&gt;keep away from radioactive dust&lt;/strong&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt; Working for the Civil Defense bureaucracy must have been a blast.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2004 00:09:08 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: woil</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/35877/bend-over-and-kiss-your-ass-goodbye#741097</link>	
		<description>5. Don&apos;t start rumors.
6. Don&apos;t spread rumors.
7. The rumors will kill us all!!!</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2004 00:11:15 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: eyeballkid</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/35877/bend-over-and-kiss-your-ass-goodbye#741098</link>	
		<description>Can&apos;t you just hear the announcer&apos;s voice from every film you saw  in grade school on the rickety old projector?</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2004 00:11:55 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mr.marx</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/35877/bend-over-and-kiss-your-ass-goodbye#741100</link>	
		<description>there is a dildo on the cover</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2004 00:25:24 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: DrDoberman</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/35877/bend-over-and-kiss-your-ass-goodbye#741118</link>	
		<description>I love the - don&apos;t worry about bigger bombs, because bigger bombs are rubbish and nobody will bother developing them - type information. As they were secretly developing bigger, better (?) bombs.

Ohh how the times have(n&apos;t) changed.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2004 02:14:39 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: AwkwardPause</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/35877/bend-over-and-kiss-your-ass-goodbye#741119</link>	
		<description>8. Profit!</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2004 02:32:40 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: troutfishing</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/35877/bend-over-and-kiss-your-ass-goodbye#741124</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;A Reliable Source of Educational Materials

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.oism.org/oism/s32p25.htm&quot;&gt;In 1986, the lnstitute began a special project of research and education on American civil defense&lt;/a&gt;. In the course of this work, the Institute has published two books - Nuclear War Survival Skills by Cresson Kearny and Fighting Chance by Arthur Robinson and Gary North. It has also produced 15 educational video tapes, shelter designs and plans, over 100 articles on various aspects of civil defense, and other educational materials. &quot;&lt;/i&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2004 03:01:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: troutfishing</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/35877/bend-over-and-kiss-your-ass-goodbye#741132</link>	
		<description>Concerning the aforementioned institute : 

I would certainly consider the civil defense plans and designs published by OISM to be of the highest caliber....and I&apos;m sure OISM does some valid anti-aging research  too.

But, I would not sign their &quot;Global Warming is a Hoax&quot; petition - which was originally sent widely to hundreds of thousands of scientists ( and I wonder where the funding for that came from  ) with an attached cover note that proved rather controversial : &lt;i&gt;&quot;....A cover note signed &quot;Frederick Seitz/Past President, National Academy of Sciences, U.S.A./President Emeritus, Rockefeller University&quot;, may have given some persons the impression that Robinson&apos;s paper was an official publication of the academy&apos;s peer-reviewed journal.&quot;&lt;/i&gt; ( &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.disinfopedia.org/wiki.phtml?title=Oregon_Institute_of_Science_and_Medicine&quot;&gt;Disinfopedia&lt;/a&gt; ) and I would not seriously consider using the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.oism.org/oism/s32p28.htm&quot;&gt;1911  Encyclopedia Britannica as the foundation of my child&apos;s home schooling curriculum.&lt;/a&gt; 

Oops.....derail. Please return now to your regularly scheduled Quonsar channel.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2004 04:04:54 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nofundy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/35877/bend-over-and-kiss-your-ass-goodbye#741148</link>	
		<description>shorter handbook:

bend over and kiss your ass goodbye</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2004 05:24:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ChrisTN</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/35877/bend-over-and-kiss-your-ass-goodbye#741154</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;there is a dildo on the cover&lt;/i&gt;

Oh, I was thinking tampon.  My bad.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2004 05:40:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sciurus</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/35877/bend-over-and-kiss-your-ass-goodbye#741159</link>	
		<description>a steel tampon?

This book is great. Makes me want to scan in a &quot;Protect Yourself from Terrorists&quot; book that I bought for laughs a while back.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2004 05:44:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: carter</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/35877/bend-over-and-kiss-your-ass-goodbye#741182</link>	
		<description>Nice, thanks!</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2004 06:21:00 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kirkaracha</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/35877/bend-over-and-kiss-your-ass-goodbye#741185</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.superseventies.com/steelydan1.html&quot;&gt;Steely Dan?&lt;/a&gt;

So I guess having the smoking gun come in the form of a mushroom cloud wouldn&apos;t be all that bad. In fact, the whole book would&apos;ve helped us understand WMD:
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://mryamamoto.topcities.com/bombs/bombs-pages/bomb-23.htm&quot;&gt;We can forget unfounded talk&lt;/a&gt; about &quot;mystery&quot; germs and poisons capable of killing millions of people at once. Most of this is nonsense and scare-talk built on twisted facts.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://mryamamoto.topcities.com/bombs/bombs-pages/bomb-25.htm&quot;&gt;Remember:&lt;/a&gt; Don&apos;t listen to propaganda about how germs can wipe out whole cities.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2004 06:23:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: substrate</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/35877/bend-over-and-kiss-your-ass-goodbye#741211</link>	
		<description>Wow, this brings back memories. A similar book was always in one of our bathrooms till my folks bought a new house in 1987. I remember reading it when I was in grade 1 or 2 and getting very upset. It gave me a sickly fascination with nuclear energy. We also had a 1954 Little&amp;amp;Ive&apos;s Encyclopedia of Science and Technology that I learned more about nuclear energy (including some very cool pictures of the blue glow around a reactor) when I was in grade 3 or 4.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2004 07:13:58 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: caution live frogs</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/35877/bend-over-and-kiss-your-ass-goodbye#741301</link>	
		<description>ground zero odds of survival, 1 in 10? somebody was wearing their rose-colored blinders that day. i mean, 1 in 10? and the radiation wasn&apos;t that bad, even at ground zero of a nuclear blast? uh... sure, i&apos;ll buy that. and do you happen to have a deed to the golden gate bridge that you&apos;re itching to sell me, too?

then again, these were also the folks who thought we&apos;d be wearing jet packs and zipping off to the moon in our flying cars by now. (damn. and they say the drugs are getting more potent these days... looks to me like whatever those dudes were smoking in the 50s was plenty strong enough. flying cars, my ass.)</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2004 10:02:04 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kaibutsu</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/35877/bend-over-and-kiss-your-ass-goodbye#741323</link>	
		<description>To anyone who hasn&apos;t seen it, I highly recommend &apos;Atomic Cafe&apos;, a film that&apos;s all about this kind of government propoganda...</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2004 10:51:15 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: gompa</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/35877/bend-over-and-kiss-your-ass-goodbye#741332</link>	
		<description>What to do during an attack:

9. Find yourself &lt;a href=&quot;http://mryamamoto.topcities.com/bombs/bombs-pages/bomb-17.htm&quot;&gt;a sexy bathing beauty&lt;/a&gt; and commence repopulating the planet.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2004 11:07:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: zoogleplex</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/35877/bend-over-and-kiss-your-ass-goodbye#741346</link>	
		<description>caution live frogs, remember they&apos;re talking about Hiroshima-power atomic (uranium/plutonium fission) bombs here. That weapon had a yield of only about 12-18 kilotons of TNT. While obviously not an inconsiderable blast, the effects described in this manual are consistent with what happened in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and people who were within a mile of the actual ground zero points of those bombs did indeed survive - and remember the bombs were also airbursts, even people who were directly under them were some 2000 feet away from the blast point. If there was enough solid material between you and the bomb blast, you might not even be injured even at that close distance!

You may be thinking of the sort of destruction that the later, much more powerful hydrogen fusion bombs are capable of, with yields of 1 megaton up to as much as 20 or more megatons - hundreds to thousands of times the blast power - and perhaps also of what would happen in a ground burst. Note that ground bursts are not as effectively destructive as airbursts, which this book points out.

So, as pointed out above, this book doesn&apos;t take into account that much larger bombs were eventually created and put into deployment in the early 1950s by both sides. Also, it talks about an &quot;air attack,&quot; meaning attack via high-altitude bombers - clearly pre-ICBM and MIRV warhead days. When they used to plan to deliver bombs by aircraft, the DEW line would have given hours of warning that bombers were on their way, and the populace could hunker down in the bomb shelters and most of them would probably survive the attack with little harm.

Note that Hiroshima and Nagasaki had ZERO warning so people were just going about their daily business when the bombs went off. Horrible. That was a conscious decision by Truman and the Joint Chiefs, by the way; they had thought about warning the Japanese and giving them a chance to evacuate the &quot;demonstration&quot; city, but felt that it would be much more effective to just let the bomb kill a lot of people to get the point across...

So anyway, for the time, the booklet&apos;s probably not so far off as you might think.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2004 11:25:48 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: O9scar</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/35877/bend-over-and-kiss-your-ass-goodbye#741398</link>	
		<description>Along the same lines: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.archive.org/movies/movies-details-db.php?collection=prelinger&amp;collectionid=19069&amp;from=mostViewed&quot;&gt;Duck and Cover&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2004 12:33:49 -0800</pubDate>
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