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	<title>Comments on: Flying the Dot-Com Skies</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 15 Oct 2004 16:38:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Flying the Dot-Com Skies</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/36298/Flying-the-DotCom-Skies</link>	
		<description>It has been four years since the dot-coms crashed, sweeping ideas like mylacky.com, pets.com and kozmo.com into the circular file.  The remaining survivors have been remarkably successful.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/&quot;&gt;Google&lt;/a&gt; owns the search space and has redefined web mail.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.orbitz.com/&quot;&gt;Orbitz&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.expedia.com/&quot;&gt;Expedia&lt;/a&gt; take most of the pain out of travel planning and reservations.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tenzing.com/&quot;&gt;Tenzing&lt;/a&gt; has spent close to half a decade pushing for &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.faa.gov/apa/pr/pr.cfm?id=1244&quot;&gt;IFE&lt;/a&gt; certification for &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.linux.org/&quot;&gt;Linux&lt;/a&gt;.  Once properly certified, they built a system light enough, cheap enough, and reliable enough for installation aboard &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.airliners.net/ &quot;&gt;aircraft&lt;/a&gt;.  All this effort just so you can &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.webmailbytenzing.com/&quot;&gt;read email&lt;/a&gt; the next time you travel by air.  Aerospace giant &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.boeing.com/&quot;&gt;Boeing&lt;/a&gt; is hard at work on a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.connexionbyboeing.com/&quot;&gt;similar product&lt;/a&gt; but their demonstration is far more &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.connexionbyboeing.com/index.cfm?p=cbb.serviceavailable&amp;l=en.US&amp;ec=&quot;&gt;limited&lt;/a&gt; than start-up Tenzing&apos;s. (no, not &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenzing_Norgay&quot;&gt;that&lt;/a&gt; Tenzing)</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Oct 2004 16:33:57 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: neckro23</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/36298/Flying-the-DotCom-Skies#751456</link>	
		<description>&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.tenzing-norgay.com/about/ten-3.jpg&quot;&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Oct 2004 16:38:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: NewBornHippy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/36298/Flying-the-DotCom-Skies#751480</link>	
		<description>The pictures they use to illustrate their website made me wince.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Oct 2004 17:31:03 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kwantsar</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/36298/Flying-the-DotCom-Skies#751494</link>	
		<description>Some other forums have mentioned that you can get online for free by entering the following login code: 20000103257652.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Oct 2004 17:58:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: riffola</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/36298/Flying-the-DotCom-Skies#751498</link>	
		<description>If I am not badly mistaken, Orbitz, Hotwire.com, and Priceline are all owned by the same company.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Oct 2004 18:01:46 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: fleener</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/36298/Flying-the-DotCom-Skies#751554</link>	
		<description>Google has redefined web mail? You must be joking. They launched a fantastic marketing campaign by creating a scarcity and mystique that duped people into thinking they were getting something great instead of a rookie service. I was very very very excited when I finally received a gmail invite, then very very disappointed that it was all hype.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Oct 2004 20:20:04 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: majcher</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/36298/Flying-the-DotCom-Skies#751581</link>	
		<description>I just wanted to say that I really, really, really miss Kozmo.

That is all.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Oct 2004 21:12:25 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: majick</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/36298/Flying-the-DotCom-Skies#751615</link>	
		<description>I want to say that I really miss Webvan.  Not the shitty-selection-two-hour-delivery-window-we-opened-too-many-markets Webvan.  The Webvan from before that, with the produce better than available in most supermarkets, the half hour delivery windows, the same day schedule, and the custom deli.  That is all.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Oct 2004 23:14:08 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: majick</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/36298/Flying-the-DotCom-Skies#751617</link>	
		<description>I don&apos;t, however, miss the orbitz.com that used to be a marketing site for a drink with plastic pieces floating around in it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Oct 2004 23:15:55 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ricecrazy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/36298/Flying-the-DotCom-Skies#751625</link>	
		<description>No, Hotwire is owned by InterActiveCorp.  Not sure about Priceline or Orbitz, but I don&apos;t think they&apos;re owned by the same company, and it&apos;s definitely not IAC.  IAC also owns Expedia, TripAdvisor, and Hotels.com though.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Oct 2004 00:02:41 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: pieoverdone</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/36298/Flying-the-DotCom-Skies#751675</link>	
		<description>Sniff. Suck.com.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Oct 2004 06:16:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: emelenjr</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/36298/Flying-the-DotCom-Skies#751708</link>	
		<description>Sniff. CDNow.com before Amazon bought it. Theirs is the only dotcom freebie t-shirt I own.

I wonder how long that code will remain active, if it&apos;s true.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Oct 2004 07:27:29 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kindall</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/36298/Flying-the-DotCom-Skies#751743</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;I was very very very excited when I finally received a gmail invite, then very very disappointed that it was all hype.&lt;/i&gt;

You must not have used it very much.

1) 1 gigabyte of storage
2) Speedy, keyboard-navigable UI
3) Conversation threading
4) Labels instead of folders
5) Google-class search

All of these things make Gmail best-of-breed in Web mail services and the new bar which other services will have to meet. Of course, those features, while cool, still make it 99% useless to me, since I don&apos;t feel like I really have my mail until it&apos;s on my computer, but several people I know have switched over to it full-time from their ISP&apos;s mail account.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Oct 2004 08:37:36 -0800</pubDate>
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