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	<title>Comments on: Simtastic GWB vs. JFK</title>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2004 11:21:16 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Simtastic GWB vs. JFK</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/36415/Simtastic-GWB-vs-JFK</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href="http://ubergoth.net/sims/bushkerry/index.html"&gt;George Bush &amp; John Kerry&lt;/a&gt; living together in the Sims 2. First things heat up, then they really get hot. Just wait until they meet their new neighbors! &lt;small&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ribarambles.org/&quot;&gt;Via&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2004 10:42:53 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ssmith</dc:creator>		<category>Sims</category>		<category>GeorgeBush</category>		<category>JohnKerry</category>		<category>Bush</category>		<category>Kerry</category>
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		<title>By: Vidiot</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/36415/Simtastic-GWB-vs-JFK#754392</link>	
		<description>Wow.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2004 11:21:16 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dejah420</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/36415/Simtastic-GWB-vs-JFK#754403</link>	
		<description>Bwhahahahahaha!  Ok, now that&apos;s just funny.  It&apos;s starts slow, but I was laughing out loud by the end.  &lt;em&gt;He can&apos;t yell at you anymore little one&lt;/em&gt;, indeed.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2004 11:34:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: t r a c y</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/36415/Simtastic-GWB-vs-JFK#754404</link>	
		<description>*hurries off to set up a metafilter sim world, gleefully anticipating the abuse of certain members*</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2004 11:34:52 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: orange swan</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/36415/Simtastic-GWB-vs-JFK#754412</link>	
		<description>I never got the Sims before. Now I do.

T r a c y, you better post a link to that sucker in a MeTa thread.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2004 11:51:43 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>orange swan</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: uncleozzy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/36415/Simtastic-GWB-vs-JFK#754414</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;But I have a plan, George, as evidenced by this road sign!&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Genius.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2004 11:56:15 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: cell divide</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/36415/Simtastic-GWB-vs-JFK#754422</link>	
		<description>I know nothing about the sims.... how much of their behavior is determined when you set up the characters? Do they &apos;turn&apos; gay, or were they made gay at the beginning?</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2004 12:13:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: deborah</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/36415/Simtastic-GWB-vs-JFK#754423</link>	
		<description>&lt;small&gt;&lt;small&gt;Not again!  I missed yet another chance to pop my FPP cherry.  I posted this on my own blog about the same time &lt;strong&gt;ssmith&lt;/strong&gt; posted it here.

Note to self:  must get over fear of snarky Mefites.&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2004 12:13:54 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: deborah</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/36415/Simtastic-GWB-vs-JFK#754424</link>	
		<description>cell divide:

You assign a horoscope sign to your Sim.  You can rearrange the resulting points which will change his/her horoscope accordingly.  All Sims are naturally bisexual.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2004 12:17:42 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ssmith</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/36415/Simtastic-GWB-vs-JFK#754469</link>	
		<description>deborah - sorry I beat you to the punch. If it&apos;s any consolation, this is only my 2nd FPP.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2004 12:55:25 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: deborah</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/36415/Simtastic-GWB-vs-JFK#754495</link>	
		<description>Actually, my comment was a bit misleading, &lt;strong&gt;ssmith&lt;/strong&gt;.  I have no plans of posting FPPs.  I&apos;ve seen too many people get ripped up for perfectly fine FPPs.  &lt;small&gt;(And Mefites wonder why more people don&apos;t post...)&lt;/small&gt;

By the way, the author posted a &quot;thank you&quot; on my blog.  She also has a journal at &lt;a href=&quot;http://tviokh.livejournal.com/&quot;&gt;Livejournal&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2004 13:34:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kavasa</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/36415/Simtastic-GWB-vs-JFK#754550</link>	
		<description>Strictly speaking, all sims are the same gender.  Distinctions are purely polygonal.

That said: I find the Sims games incredibly boring.  And what is up with &lt;b&gt;bolding&lt;/b&gt; people&apos;s names.  Seriously people, stop that.  This is not a gossip column.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2004 15:10:07 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: i_cola</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/36415/Simtastic-GWB-vs-JFK#754577</link>	
		<description>deborah: Snarky MeFites aren&apos;t sitting in the room with you. They can&apos;t harm you.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2004 15:55:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: inksyndicate</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/36415/Simtastic-GWB-vs-JFK#754581</link>	
		<description>I had the Bush cabinet living together in the first Sims, back a couple years ago. Because Dick Cheney was so &quot;mean,&quot; everyone kept moving out of the house in a huff -- particularly bitter was the dust-up between him and Colin Powell, who would hang around the house, unemployed and crying.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2004 16:03:45 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Tlogmer</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/36415/Simtastic-GWB-vs-JFK#754605</link>	
		<description>*Laughs, exherts tremendous will to keep from self-linking essay from several months ago about how the Sims 2 will change society*</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2004 17:03:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: catchmurray</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/36415/Simtastic-GWB-vs-JFK#754613</link>	
		<description>That is terrific! They should use it as an ad.

*Rushes off to set up Blair and Brown*</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2004 17:27:49 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: stavrosthewonderchicken</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/36415/Simtastic-GWB-vs-JFK#754647</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;exerts tremendous will to keep from self-linking essay from several months ago &lt;/em&gt;

No need. Self-linking is perfectly acceptable in a comment, if it&apos;s on-topic.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2004 19:09:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: deborah</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/36415/Simtastic-GWB-vs-JFK#754662</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;And what is up with bolding people&apos;s names.&lt;/em&gt;

It seems to be the trend.  And I&apos;m all about being trendy, dontcha know.  However, since it seems to offend kavasa, I&apos;ll cease and desist bolding names.

&lt;em&gt;deborah: Snarky MeFites aren&apos;t sitting in the room with you. They can&apos;t harm you.&lt;/em&gt;

You&apos;re right, they cannot hurt me physically.  However, when someone stomps (verbally, on the internet or whatever) all over something I think is cool it hurts my poor widdle emotions (whomever thunked up &quot;sticks &apos;n&apos; stones&quot; can bite me).  Constructive criticism is always welcome as is being silent when nothing nice can be said.  

Tlogmer, please link to the essay, I&apos;d love to read it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2004 19:49:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: amberglow</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/36415/Simtastic-GWB-vs-JFK#754666</link>	
		<description>very fun--i had thought they couldn&apos;t be gay. I guess this is a new thing? (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,65256,00.html&quot;&gt;more on it here&lt;/a&gt;)</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2004 20:02:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jb</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/36415/Simtastic-GWB-vs-JFK#754836</link>	
		<description>Sims 1 also has completely flexible orientation, but there is a recognition of gender.  For instance, same sex couples &quot;move in&quot; together rather than getting married (will they change this in the Canadian version?), and don&apos;t have babies on their own - they have to wait for the adoption agency to call.  But in terms of establishing relationships, yes, they are all bisexual.  &lt;small&gt;(My first sim neighbourhood had a lesbian couple and a gay couple, each with one child, and one insanely huge family of two couples and four children.  But the new house just has lots and lots of love triangles - I was getting bored of being nice.)&lt;/small&gt;  Sims 1 doesn&apos;t have any wants, though (other than hunger, etc), so the article must be just about Sims 2.

I did laugh out loud reading this, but was also thinking much of the time: &quot;Ah, so this is what Sims 2 is like.&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2004 23:38:05 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: t r a c y</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/36415/Simtastic-GWB-vs-JFK#754875</link>	
		<description>i just lured my &lt;strong&gt;kavasa &lt;/strong&gt;sim to the basement and then removed the staircase and door</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2004 02:27:52 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: LouReedsSon</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/36415/Simtastic-GWB-vs-JFK#754887</link>	
		<description>So this Sims, it&apos;s kinda like one of them &apos;merican reality tv shows? :)</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2004 04:09:21 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Tlogmer</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/36415/Simtastic-GWB-vs-JFK#754909</link>	
		<description>Alright, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1676185&quot;&gt;here&apos;s the essay&lt;/a&gt;.  (I didn&apos;t post it in the first place because I&apos;ve done kind of a lot of self-linking lately.)</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2004 05:35:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: deborah</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/36415/Simtastic-GWB-vs-JFK#755067</link>	
		<description>jb:  I&apos;m not sure what you mean by the Canadian version.  I&apos;m in Canada and play the same version as USians.

In Sims1 male and female Sims could officially marry, but you could have same-sex Sims shack-up.  In Sims2 Sims of either sex can marry either sex, or live in sin if you prefer.  And like &quot;real life&quot; same-sex couples can&apos;t have babies of their own making.  However, you can adopt (as mentioned) or, if female, have a ..um.. sperm donor.  Just watch out for the jealousy factor.  Male Sims can also give birth, but only after being abducted and impregnated by an alien.  Yes, really.

amberglow:  I frequent the main Sims newsgroup.  Players have mentioned that no matter how they try, there are some Sims that refuse to have relationships with their opposite sex (100% gay).  No one has mentioned it, but I&apos;m sure there are Sims that refuse to have relationships with their own sex (100% hetero).  Generally speaking though, Sims are happy to &quot;woohoo&quot; with either sex.

Tlogmer:  thanks for posting that.  I&apos;ve wondered now and again if the future will have a meld of Sims, the internet and virtual reality.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2004 10:22:36 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: skallas</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/36415/Simtastic-GWB-vs-JFK#755097</link>	
		<description>Am I the only person sick of gay jokes? I used to watch Conan O&apos;Brien until half his schtick was either homos or hitler.  Eventually he did a gag involving a gay hitler.  I don&apos;t think I&apos;ve watched since.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2004 11:17:52 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: amberglow</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/36415/Simtastic-GWB-vs-JFK#755169</link>	
		<description>I wonder if they based the code on Kinsey scales or something?

Maybe i&apos;ll actually have to buy it and play. : &amp;gt;

skallas, it depends on the joke, and my mood. I am tired of people using it for cheap laughs (a la Conan), but this was funny. What&apos;s great is when funny people don&apos;t ever use it--like Dave Chapelle.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2004 12:56:25 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dejah420</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/36415/Simtastic-GWB-vs-JFK#755389</link>	
		<description>I go through spurts with the Sims.  I get all caught up in it, design these elaborate scenarios...and then get bored having to micromanage their potty needs.  

That said, I have a Grant, Lee, Lincoln, Crazy Mary Todd house that&apos;s great fun.  

&lt;em&gt;Snarky MeFites aren&apos;t sitting in the room with you. They can&apos;t harm you.&lt;/em&gt;

Ha!  Fear me and my rapier wit, able to cross time, space, and the internets!</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2004 21:58:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dejah420</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/36415/Simtastic-GWB-vs-JFK#755394</link>	
		<description>Drats...I meant to add:  Tracy, we should create a modding area and swap mefi sims. ;)</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2004 22:00:39 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ROU_Xenophobe</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/36415/Simtastic-GWB-vs-JFK#755409</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;I go through spurts with the Sims&lt;/i&gt;

TMI, dejah, TMI.  And probably illegal in Texas.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2004 22:36:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jb</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/36415/Simtastic-GWB-vs-JFK#755557</link>	
		<description>deborah - I was just joking that now, since gay marriage is legal in Ontario, B.C. and Yukon, Sims would have to change the options, to make a &quot;Canadian&quot; pro-gay marriage version.  It sounds like they already have in Sims 2.

I wonder whether it is that there are Sims that are all gay or all straight - I&apos;ve never noticed that in Sims1, but maybe it is there in Sims2.  But I think that personality might be the factor - some Sims just will not like another, because they are too different.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Oct 2004 11:23:55 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: t r a c y</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/36415/Simtastic-GWB-vs-JFK#763941</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;I get all caught up in it, design these elaborate scenarios...and then get bored having to micromanage their potty needs. &lt;/em&gt;

i found &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.simchaotics.com/&quot;&gt;a great hack&lt;/a&gt; that lets you &quot;green&quot; them up instantly whenever you want, so no more potty maintenance.  i&apos;ve emailed it to you since this thread is probably too old to get noticed now.

&lt;em&gt; Drats...I meant to add: Tracy, we should create a modding area and swap mefi sims. ;)&lt;/em&gt;

i&apos;d be afraid of some of the real mefites seeing my mefi sims and being insulted by my execution of their looks, eek :-D</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2004 10:16:01 -0800</pubDate>
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