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	<title>Comments on: Bummer.</title>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2000 15:28:20 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Bummer.</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://news6.thdo.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/asia%2Dpacific/newsid%5F957000/957636.stm"&gt;Bummer.&lt;/a&gt; </description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2000 15:18:41 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>highindustrial</dc:creator>		<category>Malaysia</category>		<category>ban</category>		<category>gambling</category>		<category>games</category>		<category>videogames</category>		<category>gaming</category>		<category>brokenlink</category>
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		<title>By: th3ph17</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/3655/Bummer#23443</link>	
		<description>*ouch* that is really too painful for words. </description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2000 15:28:20 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: starduck</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/3655/Bummer#23445</link>	
		<description>heh, super nintendo
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2000 15:36:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: waxpancake</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/3655/Bummer#23452</link>	
		<description>On a side note, these one word posts aren&apos;t very helpful.  When you don&apos;t provide any context, it&apos;s impossible to know whether the featured link is of any interest or not until I actually follow it or view the comments.  Here&apos;s a few examples of other recent context-less posts:

&lt;A HREF=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/detail.cfm?link_ID=3649&quot;&gt;I&apos;m sorry.&lt;/A&gt;
&lt;A HREF=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/detail.cfm?link_ID=3572&quot;&gt;Do you remember the magic??&lt;/A&gt;
&lt;A HREF=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/detail.cfm?link_ID=3539&quot;&gt;Good God!&lt;/A&gt;
&lt;A HREF=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/detail.cfm?link_ID=3498&quot;&gt;Have fun laughing your ass off.&lt;/A&gt;
&lt;A HREF=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/detail.cfm?link_ID=3452&quot;&gt;Ouch.&lt;/A&gt;
&lt;A HREF=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/detail.cfm?link_ID=3444&quot;&gt;It&apos;s about time.&lt;/A&gt;

See what I mean? </description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2000 16:32:49 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: gluechunk</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/3655/Bummer#23455</link>	
		<description>Somewhat related...

A few days ago, &lt;a href=http://seattlep-i.nwsource.com/local/game09.shtml&gt; the Seattle Gameworks started a policy of keeping kids away from the &quot;violent&quot; arcade games&lt;/a&gt;.  And earlier this year, &lt;a href=http://seattlep-i.nwsource.com/local/vide25.shtml&gt;arcade games were yanked out of the Seattle Center arcade&lt;/a&gt;.
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2000 16:57:45 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Zool</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/3655/Bummer#23456</link>	
		<description>This is what can happen when you elect a religious government to office. </description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2000 16:58:20 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: skallas</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/3655/Bummer#23461</link>	
		<description>  This is a muslim fundamentalist country that has banned among other things, movies like Schindler&apos;s list.  I don&apos;t think they give a shit about the violence as much as the porno and gambling games. I don&apos;t see this as being &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.spiceisle.com/talkshop/messages/60405.htm&quot;&gt;that crazy,&lt;/a&gt; if porno and gambling games were the main attractions at American arcades then you&apos;d see carding at the door.

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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2000 18:24:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: argybarg</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/3655/Bummer#23464</link>	
		<description>I couldn&apos;t agree with waxpancake more. I think the logic of these one-word posts must be that if the post gives too much away, no one will follow the link. But imagine a newspaper with headlines like &quot;Bummer&quot;, &quot;Arrested&quot;, &quot;Cute&quot; or &quot;And now?&quot; and you&apos;ll see why that&apos;s a bad idea.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2000 18:33:54 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: vitaflo</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/3655/Bummer#23469</link>	
		<description>These dudes should realize that it&apos;s better for young people to be &quot;adicted&quot; to games than it is drugs or some such crap.  Gaming kept me out of a lot of touble as a kid.

Oh, and I agree on the one word posts thing.  For all the blog-types who come here (and I for one am not one), who pride themselves on their writing, you&apos;d think people would take advantage of explaining links a little better.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2000 20:15:46 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kidsplateusa</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/3655/Bummer#23471</link>	
		<description>vitaflo: Word. no, seriously... I agree.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2000 20:25:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: lagado</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/3655/Bummer#23472</link>	
		<description>It&apos;s a bit strong to call Malaysia &lt;i&gt;a muslim fundamentalist country&lt;/i&gt;. A nanny state, perhaps. 

skallas, just because the country has a majority of people who are muslims (60%), doesn&apos;t make it a fundamentalist state by a long shot. 

Malaysia is a multiracial society which takes a fairly liberal approach on most issues. 

I&apos;m not defending this decision, by any means, but I know that the main intention was to crack down on illegal gambling machines. </description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2000 20:31:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: skallas</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/3655/Bummer#23476</link>	
		<description> Its uber-conservative and driving that is Islam, they even cut out kissing scenes in American movies.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2000 21:26:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: lagado</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/3655/Bummer#23485</link>	
		<description>It may be conservative by American standards but not by the standards the region. Some things are driven by Islam, some things are driven by conventional Asian values. 

Malaysia doesn&apos;t even come close to Middle Eastern countries for conservatism. I would say that even Singapore is even more conservative and it&apos;s 90% Chinese. 

I&apos;m not disagreeing that Malaysia is a more conservative place than western countries but that your statement is a gross exaggeration.
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2000 22:41:21 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Zool</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/3655/Bummer#23489</link>	
		<description>Malaysia is an Islamic state. They may not be as hardcore as some Arab nations, but are an Islamic state nonetheless. </description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2000 23:16:29 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: lagado</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/3655/Bummer#23501</link>	
		<description>So what?

My point is that Malaysia does not deserve to be called a &lt;i&gt;fundamentalist&lt;/i&gt; state. Somehow muslims are automatically given this label. 

I suggest you all join me for a beer in downtown Kuala Lumpur sometime.
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2000 04:13:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dhartung</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/3655/Bummer#23511</link>	
		<description>I think skallas may have been a little strong to characterize the country as Islamic fundamentalist, but there&apos;s no question it&apos;s a political force in the region, and one that the government has to watch closely. Islamic separatists in Indonesia are lend strength to fundamentalist movements in the region.

At the same time, Malaysia is an economically dynamic and modern country with the world&apos;s tallest office building (built for roughly the same reasons that Chicago built its own, to prove they&apos;re no backwater). I keep thinking of the fantastically clean and elegant tram station at Pudu shown in &lt;i&gt;Entrapment&lt;/i&gt;. I can&apos;t imagine seeing anything so modern and pretty in Chicago.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2000 07:25:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: baylink</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/3655/Bummer#23588</link>	
		<description>Whaaaaat?

It&apos;s from the Beeb, it&apos;s about Asia/Pac; that was enough for *me*... :-)

I usually use that tactic to pull people to the comment page for a extension, if they&apos;re not feeling brave.

But then, I don&apos;t usually do *one worders*, I do *one liners*.  (&quot;Marilyn Chambers is doing a new movie.  Bestiality pic; it&apos;s called Alsatianable.&quot;)</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2000 11:40:56 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: lagado</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/3655/Bummer#23643</link>	
		<description>dhartung, I agree. 

There is always the danger of Islamic fundamentalism asserting itself in the region. The troubles in Indonesia have got the potential of spilling over and affecting Malaysia.

For example, the Achinese indepence struggle in neighbouring Sumatra (a people who have a strong cultural affinity with the malays), if successful, will probably bring about the rise of a real fundamentalist state right next door. This will influence Malaysian domestic politics negatively, I&apos;m sure.

There are a whole lot of reasons for this. Malaysia is a complex society with an equally complex history which includes decolonisation, a sometimes uneasy coexistence of different ethnic groups and a struggle to find a cohesive national identity. 

It&apos;s also rare economic success story with free public health care and a free education system. It also has the second highest (after Singapore) ratio of women executives in the world, far higher than in either the US or Australia.

This is not to say I am overjoyed at everything that happens there. I can catalogue a whole range of problems ranging from ethnic bigotry through to official corruption and the abuse of power by the government. 

I just think Westerners should not be so quick in making blanket statements.
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2000 15:49:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: baylink</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/3655/Bummer#23727</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;I just think Westerners should not be so quick in making blanket statements.&lt;/i&gt;

The irony there is deafening.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2000 07:00:56 -0800</pubDate>
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