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November 23, 2004 5:32 AM   Subscribe

Nuclear Terrorism videos and links here...plus a blast map-enter your zip code and see how far the effects go.
posted by konolia (32 comments total)

 
Double post....
posted by mmahaffie at 5:41 AM on November 23, 2004


Well, dang.

Just blow it up then, Matt.
posted by konolia at 6:00 AM on November 23, 2004


Sorry konolia. It's an interesting site... I guess that's why it stuck in my head.
posted by mmahaffie at 6:03 AM on November 23, 2004


Is this a political post ?
posted by troutfishing at 6:22 AM on November 23, 2004


Because everyone needs to be informed with the ever-so-useful blast map of their city. What a planning tool.
posted by jmccorm at 6:28 AM on November 23, 2004


Is this a political post ?

No.
posted by konolia at 6:32 AM on November 23, 2004


If by "no", you mean "this is an ad for a book", then yes.
posted by jmccorm at 6:34 AM on November 23, 2004


Bummer, it's not working for me. I keep getting a pop-up jscript window with an error: "Response from previous request/s not received."
posted by erratic frog at 6:44 AM on November 23, 2004


A strange game. The only way to win is not to play.

There ought to be a media propaganda map. Enter your IQ and see how far the effects go.
posted by bwerdmuller at 6:50 AM on November 23, 2004


heh, sorry guys the server is getting hammered right now from a zillion links just like this one... I'm trying to fix it right now; me and a buddy made this application for the book author.
posted by tricky_t at 7:04 AM on November 23, 2004


This is pretty lame. You get a picture of your place from a satellite photo, and then CIRCLES ARE DRAWN ON IT OH NO! Buy the book!

I'm sorry, I just spoiled it.
posted by blacklite at 7:46 AM on November 23, 2004


I heard the author on the radio yesterday, maybe NPR. This seems like fear-mongering to me. A nuke in SF or NYC would be very bad. Wait, didn't I already know that?
posted by Gankmore at 7:57 AM on November 23, 2004


What I was hoping to see was a FALLOUT map for my area-- If I'm in the blast zone: I'm dead (so no need to worry). However, as I am about three hours outside of a few major cities, I'd like to know how well I'm gonna fare the day after...
posted by buddhanarchist at 7:59 AM on November 23, 2004


I put it in my zip code and my house was outside the blast zone... I guess I have nothing to worry about! ;)
posted by dagnyscott at 8:25 AM on November 23, 2004


duck and cover with "bert the turtle." quicktime video.
posted by three blind mice at 8:42 AM on November 23, 2004


Since this post will be deleted anyway: trout, let it go, dude. You're not going to keep doing that in every post that you think might somehow be construed as political, are you? "Matt deleted my political post so now I'm going to piss in everybody else's!" Not a good strategy.
posted by languagehat at 8:43 AM on November 23, 2004


However, as I am about three hours outside of a few major cities, I'd like to know how well I'm gonna fare the day after...

don't drink the milk.
posted by three blind mice at 8:45 AM on November 23, 2004


Still mongering with the fear?
posted by rushmc at 8:46 AM on November 23, 2004


Well, I tried mongering with fish, but all that happened is that everyone wanted sushi.
posted by eriko at 9:27 AM on November 23, 2004


The "suitcase nukes" that Lebed described (if they even exist) had a payload of 1 kiloton, or 1/10 of what this guy's projecting. And there's a lot of suggestion that even that isn't possible.

It's sloppy fearmongering when you can't stay in the bounds of a remotely possible scenario to make your point.
posted by Mayor Curley at 9:32 AM on November 23, 2004


I heard this guy on the radio last night and it scared the everlasting bejeesus out of me.

And just because it's especially terrifying, that doesn't make it less likely to happen.

Here's an interview with him.

posted by _sirmissalot_ at 9:38 AM on November 23, 2004


WHAT TO DO WITH LESS THAN 3 DAYS TO A NUCLEAR DISASTER!

IF YOU ARE READING THIS ON-LINE, PRINT OUT SOME HARD-COPIES NOW!
posted by three blind mice at 9:50 AM on November 23, 2004


Or maybe invest in the P10 Disaster Shelter, Bomb Shelter and Underground Shelter for Nuclear, Biological and Chemical Protection

in short, NONE of this is new folks.

i guess i have a very hard time seeing the short, straight line between 19 guys with boxcutters and a mushroom cloud over manhattan.

not that it isn't possible, but it seems to me that osama bin laden, as clever as he may be, is something less of a threat to America than the Soviet Red Army and arsenal of SS-18s, SS-20s, SS-24s and SS-25s.

The "suitcase nukes" that Lebed described (if they even exist) had a payload of 1 kiloton

the SS-18, mod 6, has a payload of SIX 20 megaton warheads.

just to put things in some perspective.
posted by three blind mice at 10:09 AM on November 23, 2004


tbm: I think part of his point (from what I caught of the radio broadcast last night [archived here or paste http://wacsf.vportal.net/common/launcher.cfm?fileid=3569 into Real)] ) is that these Soviet-era nukes are not well-guarded and could easily be bought or stolen and then shipped to their target (via US ports, over the Canadian or Mexican border, etc., a la The Sum of All Fears--the book, not the film).
posted by MikeKD at 10:33 AM on November 23, 2004


Good thing the borders are so secure.
posted by homunculus at 11:23 AM on November 23, 2004


Formerly Anonymous thinks it's "pretty close to being inevitable."
posted by homunculus at 11:27 AM on November 23, 2004


Any talk of suitcase nukes by a guy like this would make me inclined to write him off.

Suitcase nukes? We're not even sure they are real, but if they are they represent a very formidable technological achievement of a superpower with a lot of budget, brains, and facilities. A terrorist is not going to make a suitcase nuke. Maybe they could buy or steal one, but it would be harder to get than a "plain vanilla" nuke by virtue of its scarcity.

I'd like to see the blast map, but the server is down. It'd be even cooler if one could change the strength of the bomb. Coming of age during the very end of the cold war, "estimate the blast radius" was a favorite game of my geekish adolescence.

Oh yeah, this guy is certainly mongering fear for fun and profit.
posted by teece at 11:48 AM on November 23, 2004


He's not talking about a suitcase nuke. He's talking about a real nuke.
posted by _sirmissalot_ at 12:43 PM on November 23, 2004


Oh, my heavens. Everything old is new again. Where'd I put that enormous tin box of crackers?
posted by Sidhedevil at 3:09 PM on November 23, 2004


don't open the tin box. there may be a nuke inside it, not crackers
posted by matteo at 3:32 PM on November 23, 2004


Sometimes, too much information is less useful. I think nukes we're a bad idea when someone else was the victim and also when we're the victim. Certainly, fantasizing about their awesome power just seems obscene.
posted by faux ami at 2:47 PM on November 24, 2004


*less than useful
*were a bad idea
posted by faux ami at 3:46 PM on November 24, 2004


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