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	<title>Comments on: Year of the Build Environment</title>
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	<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2004 15:17:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Year of the Build Environment</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.housesofthefuture.com.au/"&gt;Houses of the Future&lt;/a&gt; - houses made of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.housesofthefuture.com.au/hof_houses04.html&quot;&gt;cardboard&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.housesofthefuture.com.au/hof_houses03.html&quot;&gt;steel&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.housesofthefuture.com.au/hof_houses07.html&quot;&gt;clay&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2004 15:02:06 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>cmonkey</dc:creator>		<category>future</category>		<category>housing</category>		<category>houses</category>		<category>architecture</category>
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		<title>By: Smart Dalek</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37174/Year-of-the-Build-Environment#776234</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.octanecreative.com/ducttape/habitathouses/&quot;&gt;I&apos;ve got your houses of the future &lt;i&gt;right here&lt;/i&gt;, pal!&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: undule</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37174/Year-of-the-Build-Environment#776236</link>	
		<description>That stuff is swanky indeed -- but this seems a little, erm, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.housesofthefuture.com.au/hof_houses06.html#whyuse&quot;&gt;unlikely.&lt;/a&gt; 

This kind of thing reminds me a little of the 1970&apos;s fascination with homes made of tires and beer cans. Whatever happened to that whole movement?  At any rate, seems similar to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.earthship.com/index.php?topic=Buildings&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;  and of course,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bfi.org/domes/index.html&quot;&gt; this.&lt;/a&gt; Interesting stuff -- but somehow I think most people will be living between slabs of thin drywall for some time to come.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2004 15:20:57 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: fandango_matt</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37174/Year-of-the-Build-Environment#776249</link>	
		<description>Oh, cool! These remind me of other &quot;Houses of the Future&quot;--my favorite was the 1957 plastic &lt;a href=&quot;http://indyweek.com/durham/2001-10-31/casa2.html&quot;&gt;Monsanto House of the Future&lt;/a&gt; at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dangpow.com/~felixia/disney.html&quot;&gt;Disneyland.&lt;/a&gt; (In 1967 Disney decided it was no longer futuristic and when the wrecking ball bounced off the side, workers had to cut it apart with hacksaws and a backhoe. Ha.

Related link: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.yesterland.com/yester.html&quot;&gt;Yesterland: Discontinued Disneyland stuff.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2004 15:32:56 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Pretty_Generic</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37174/Year-of-the-Build-Environment#776251</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;houses made of cardboard, steel and clay&lt;/em&gt;

Subject to Big Bad Wolf ISO 9002 testing.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2004 15:33:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: u.n. owen</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37174/Year-of-the-Build-Environment#776252</link>	
		<description>At first I said &quot;wow, a cardboard house!&quot;

Then I said &quot;holy crap, a $35,000 cardboard house?&quot;

Then I said &quot;Oh, you tricky aussies, that&apos;s only $28,000 USD.&quot;

Then I said, &quot;holy crap, a $28,000 cardboard house?&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2004 15:34:21 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: fandango_matt</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37174/Year-of-the-Build-Environment#776290</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m glad to see the 2004&apos;s clay and cardboard Homes of Tomorrow are biodegradable, unlike &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.roadsideamerica.com/set/xanadu.html&quot;&gt;1980&apos;s polyurethane foam&lt;/a&gt; Homes of &lt;a href=&quot;http://spork.no-ip.com/~uef/gallery/xanadu&quot;&gt;Tomorrow.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2004 16:58:08 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ethereal Bligh</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37174/Year-of-the-Build-Environment#776295</link>	
		<description>undule, I got very excited when I was first exposed to the whole earthship housing movement however long ago that was&#8212;ten years or something.  A fair number were built up around Taos, Dennis Weaver&apos;s most famously.  Seems like I heard recently that they&apos;ve had problems with these houses.  I dunno, I don&apos;t want to spread false information &apos;cause the concept is really great and I like the idea and hope the houses have aged well.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2004 17:05:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: five fresh fish</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37174/Year-of-the-Build-Environment#776303</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;This kind of thing reminds me a little of the 1970&apos;s fascination with homes made of tires and beer cans.&lt;/i&gt;

There are at least two tire homes in my part of the Okanagan, both built within the past decade.  FWIW.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2004 17:10:36 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: octothorpe</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37174/Year-of-the-Build-Environment#776307</link>	
		<description>I always like looking at these kind of things but I don&apos;t see them coming to a development near me anytime soon.  Architects have been designing the home of the future for a hundred years now and no one&apos;s bought them yet.  The vast majority of new houses in the US in 21st century look like they could have been build a hundred or even two hundred years ago.  I&apos;m sitting in a townhouse right now built about thirty years ago that&apos;s not much different in style from the townhouse my grandmother lived in that dated back to the late 18th century.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2004 17:14:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: undule</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37174/Year-of-the-Build-Environment#776308</link>	
		<description>yeah I think this kind of alt-housing is great -- at least pleasing to the eye, anyway; it all seems to imply a desire to stop with the theorizing and get on with incorporating the future in the now. I&apos;m kind of prone to that sort of thing, as goofy as it may sound. For instance, I use laser pistols to light my cigarettes. That said, have you heard of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.arcosanti.org/&quot;&gt;arcosanti&lt;/a&gt;? Seems like a similar concept --  on a grander, near-metaphysical scale.

Anyhoodle, this thread got me thinking -- when I was living in Sulphur Springs -- a Tampa suburb -- there was &lt;a href=&quot;http://home.wanadoo.nl/~imagineer/mags/mag10.htm&quot;&gt;a UFO- shaped house&lt;/a&gt; down the street, completely abandoned and filled with empty beer bottles and urine stained cardboard. It was awesome, if a little tragic. 

I always wanted to buy it -- have anyone buy it for that matter. It was just rotting there under the spanish moss, accumulating garbage and roach nests. As cool as it was in concept, living inside would have been absurd; the space was little more than a small studio and had all kinds of places to smack your head.

on preview, five fresh fish, awesome! I was looking for photos via  google for a tire-house with no results.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2004 17:17:39 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: fandango_matt</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37174/Year-of-the-Build-Environment#776311</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://staging2.hgtv.com/HGTV/project/0,1158,BDRE_project_1113,00.html&quot;&gt;The Beer Can House,&lt;/a&gt; designed by architect &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.motherearthnews.com/arc/6694/&quot;&gt;Michael Reynolds.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2004 17:21:50 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: undule</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37174/Year-of-the-Build-Environment#776315</link>	
		<description>Thanks fandango, now I&apos;ll be able to sleep. I wonder why all  this stuff goes down in NM? I&apos;ve always heard that it&apos;s where all the 60&apos;s Furthur-styled buses ran out of gas, so everyone just hopped out and settled. Land of enchantment, indeed.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2004 17:25:54 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Wolof</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37174/Year-of-the-Build-Environment#776320</link>	
		<description>How about a house made of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.azom.com/details.asp?ArticleID=2040&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; stuff?

&lt;i&gt;As an additional environmental benefit, it takes only 4 months to grow the raw material for a house.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2004 17:32:00 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ethereal Bligh</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37174/Year-of-the-Build-Environment#776321</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m a skeptic and an empiricist and, strictly speaking, I staunchly disbelieve in any supernatural forces or whatnot.  But as a native New Mexican, and as one who has observed other people&apos;s reactions to NM, there does seem to be something to the mystique surrounding northern New Mexico.  I&apos;m not sure what it is.  But people seem to be encouraged to be more &quot;connected&quot; with the &quot;land&quot;, so to speak.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2004 17:32:45 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: HifiToaster</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37174/Year-of-the-Build-Environment#776322</link>	
		<description>I know somebody that built one of those tire houses and they just hated it. More expensive (and harder!) to build than anybody told them and it wasn&apos;t as structurally sound as they expected.

I&apos;m a little concerned that these cardboard houses are going to squash the gingerbread house market.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2004 17:39:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: samlam</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37174/Year-of-the-Build-Environment#776330</link>	
		<description>Gimme a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.daycreek.com/dc/images/photoalbum/Interior/PhotoAlbumFrame.htm&quot;&gt;wood &lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.daycreek.com/dc/images/photoalbum/ExteriorAlbum/PhotoAlbumFrame.htm&quot;&gt;house&lt;/a&gt;
and use LED&apos;s to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.glenhunter.ca/lights.html&quot;&gt;light &lt;/a&gt;it
Alan has a very nice &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.midcoast.com/%7Eadolphsn/alan%27s/&quot;&gt;cordwood house&lt;/a&gt;.
a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,51158,00.html&quot;&gt;straw  house is efficient&lt;/a&gt; for &lt;a href=&quot;http://mha-net.org/msb/html/gallery.htm&quot;&gt;heating&lt;/a&gt;, 
just be careful using the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.potkettleblack.com/natbild/fire.html&quot;&gt;Corncob fireplace!
&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2004 17:49:14 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: samlam</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37174/Year-of-the-Build-Environment#776334</link>	
		<description>oops - 
I meant &lt;a href=&quot;http://mha-net.org/html/gallery.htm&quot;&gt;THIS link&lt;/a&gt; for the &quot;heaters&quot;
I want 1 of &lt;a href=&quot;http://mha-net.org/graphics/p-kies02.jpg&quot;&gt;these &lt;/a&gt;in the &lt;em&gt;lounge&lt;/em&gt;
and one of &lt;a href=&quot;http://mha-net.org/graphics/pmwh10b.jpg&quot;&gt;these &lt;/a&gt;in the kitchen.
They look safe. 
&lt;em&gt;- cept the guy by the oven looks a little dangerous.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2004 17:59:39 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: fandango_matt</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37174/Year-of-the-Build-Environment#776338</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;As a native New Mexican, and as one who has observed other people&apos;s reactions to NM, there does seem to be something to the mystique surrounding northern New Mexico.&lt;/i&gt;

Maybe it&apos;s the &lt;a href=&quot;http://amasci.com/hum/hum1.html&quot;&gt;Taos Hum&lt;/a&gt;? (Or maybe &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a981218.html&quot;&gt;not.&lt;/a&gt;)

SF Bay Area MeFi&apos;ers--there&apos;s another polyurethane foam home on the east side of Interstate 280, perched on a hillside near &lt;a href=&quot;http://www-star.stanford.edu/starlab_web_20030912/&quot;&gt;Stanford&apos;s Big Dish.&lt;/a&gt; It&apos;s tan and it looks sort of like Barney Rubble&apos;s house. (I don&apos;t know the name of the house or its architect, and Google yielded nothing.)</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2004 18:10:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: samlam</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37174/Year-of-the-Build-Environment#776346</link>	
		<description>not just &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.homepower.com/&quot;&gt;houses &lt;/a&gt;of the future, but also &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.worldchanging.com/&quot;&gt;lifestyles&lt;/a&gt;
Is this Ranting or geeking????
I&apos;ll stop now...</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2004 18:23:08 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: five fresh fish</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37174/Year-of-the-Build-Environment#776358</link>	
		<description>But the greatest &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.galleries.bc.ca/agso/sites2.html&quot;&gt;bottle building&lt;/a&gt; of all is on the shores of a lake near a little mountain hamlet called Boswell. David brown was an undertaker living in Red Deer, Alberta who contracted sleeping sickness because of the stress of his business. When his doctor advised him to quit brown loaded his trailer and headed west until he reached Kootenay Lake. Soon bored with retirement, Brown got a job selling embalming fluid and kept the empty bottles. He built his extraordinary house using 600,000 of them. Before he was half-finished, he was deluged with visitors.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2004 18:37:36 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: towerbrave</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37174/Year-of-the-Build-Environment#776380</link>	
		<description>&quot;...or closed to create a feeling of warmth and enclosure that only the thick massing of concrete can provide&quot;
 
That just doesn&apos;t sound right somehow.  Sort of threatening really.

I sometimes dream about building a house out of recycled materials that&apos;s &apos;off the grid&apos; out in the Canadian wilderness.  We waste so much these days that there would be plenty to work with.
 This usually morphs into a dream of my own compound, compleat with devoted followers and an arsenal.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2004 18:56:50 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sophie</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37174/Year-of-the-Build-Environment#776494</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=http://www.strawhomes.com/sban/index.html&quot; &quot;&gt;Straw Bale Housing Construction&lt;/a&gt; is growing in popularity here in Nebraska.  I work in the housing industry, and at the housing conferences here straw bale non-profits are always trying to convince affordable housing groups to adopt these building materials and methods.  It seems like these projects are &lt;a href=http://www.eere.energy.gov/EE/strawhouse/house-of-straw.html&quot; &quot;&gt;energy  efficient&lt;/a&gt;.   But I wouldn&apos;t feel secure living in something made out of straw in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tempesttours.com/cosgrove%20saronville,%20ne%20tornado.jpg&quot;&gt;rural Nebraska&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2004 21:51:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sophie</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37174/Year-of-the-Build-Environment#776502</link>	
		<description>Sorry, I screwed up a couple of the links:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://strawhomes.com/sban/index.html&quot;&gt;Straw Bale Housing Construction&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.eere.energy.gov/EE/strawhouse/house-of-straw.html&quot;&gt;energy efficient&lt;/a&gt;.  My bad.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2004 21:59:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: fairmettle</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37174/Year-of-the-Build-Environment#776660</link>	
		<description>The Australians behind the cardboard house project are Brucey-Come-Latelys to this concept.

The  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.japan-photo.de/e-wohn03.htm&quot;&gt;Japanese&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.goethe.de/kug/kue/fot/thm/en190947.htm&quot;&gt;Germans&lt;/a&gt;, and &lt;a href=&quot;http://wpni01.auroraquanta.com/pv/centralpark?img=1953&quot;&gt;Americans&lt;/a&gt; all had the jump on this idea years ago...</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2004 05:17:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: OmieWise</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37174/Year-of-the-Build-Environment#777079</link>	
		<description>Whatever happened to the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hfmgv.org/dymaxion/&quot;&gt;Dymaxion House&lt;/a&gt;?  Why does everyone want to claim the future when Bucky already lives there?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2004 13:15:24 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Alt F4</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37174/Year-of-the-Build-Environment#779388</link>	
		<description>Just wanted to point out ...

&lt;em&gt;just be careful using the Corncob fireplace!&lt;/em&gt;

That&apos;s &lt;strong&gt;cob&lt;/strong&gt;, not corncob. Cob is a clay/sand/straw mixture, used for building. It&apos;s hundreds of years old, and buildings built with it last for, well, hundreds of years. The name &quot;cob&quot; comes, probably, from the shape of the clay as it&apos;s hoisted to the developing walls. It&apos;s sent up in little loafs, which look like a &quot;cob loaf&quot; of bread.

... not that anyone&apos;s still reading this thread.</description>
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