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	<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2004 19:37:48 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Sacred Sites</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sacredsites.com&quot;&gt;Sacred Sites&lt;/a&gt;. Martin Gray is an anthropologist and photographer specializing in the study of sacred sites and pilgrimage traditions around the world.  Traveling as a pilgrim, Martin spent  twenty years,  visiting and photographing over 1000 sacred sites in eighty countries. 1000s of photos, Atlas of Sacred Sites, travel journal, etc..</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2004 19:24:53 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>stbalbach</dc:creator>		<category>MatrinGray</category>		<category>Gray</category>		<category>Anthropology</category>		<category>Photography</category>		<category>Photographer</category>		<category>Anthropologist</category>		<category>sacredsites</category>		<category>pilgrimage</category>		<category>travel</category>
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		<title>By: stbalbach</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37362/Sacred-Sites#782146</link>	
		<description>For those who see Martin&apos;s new-age spirituality as another aging hippy left behind in an increasingly cynical and polarized world (and you may not be far off) I suggest rather he follows in that grand tradition of the likes of &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_of_Assisi&quot;&gt;Francis of Assisi&lt;/a&gt;, a wandering preacher. Plus, how cool is that to travel the world on the donations of others on a true pilgrimage and not another &quot;notch in the stick&quot; site seeing tour.</description>
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		<title>By: moonbird</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37362/Sacred-Sites#782218</link>	
		<description>thank you for the reminder... there&apos;s so much yet to see in this life.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2004 20:43:54 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: euphorb</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37362/Sacred-Sites#782275</link>	
		<description>Awesome.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2004 21:36:56 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dougunderscorenelso</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37362/Sacred-Sites#782283</link>	
		<description>Great find! A+.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2004 21:45:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rdub</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37362/Sacred-Sites#782358</link>	
		<description>Very cool.  It&apos;s too bad that the maps in the &lt;a href=http://www.sacredsites.com/mapslink.htm&gt;atlas of sacred places&lt;/a&gt; aren&apos;t clickable.  It would be very cool if you could navigate to all of the photographs in this way.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2004 23:05:49 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rushmc</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37362/Sacred-Sites#782374</link>	
		<description>I like the pictures.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2004 23:27:57 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Civil_Disobedient</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37362/Sacred-Sites#782387</link>	
		<description>Nice pictures, boring text, but I have a question (maybe this is better left to AskMe):

Does anyone know of the sacred gathering held in (I believe) India where thousands -- maybe millions -- of people gather and watch the sun rise?  I remember reading something about this a while back and there was this one *awesome* panorama of all the millions of people just as the sun was rising.  I&apos;m not thinking of the Ganges bathers.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2004 23:58:45 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: euphorb</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37362/Sacred-Sites#782400</link>	
		<description>Whether or not you&apos;re refering to the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kmp2001.com/&quot;&gt;Kumba Mela&lt;/a&gt; it&apos;s still pretty damn cool anyway.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2004 00:24:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: faux ami</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37362/Sacred-Sites#782401</link>	
		<description>I think I read about that, C_D, in Vikram Seth&apos;s book A Suitable Boy (it&apos;s in storage or I&apos;d look it up).  Many years people are trampled... but it&apos;s amazing.

Also, nice site.  I clicked on the lovely photo of Chichen Itza and thought about how WalMart is building their first superstore there and it can be seen from the top of this place of peace. :(</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2004 00:24:35 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: faux ami</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37362/Sacred-Sites#782402</link>	
		<description>Oops not Chichen Itza, sorry.  (I meant the pyramids in Mex. City)</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2004 00:26:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rdub</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37362/Sacred-Sites#782410</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Also, nice site. I clicked on the lovely photo of Chichen Itza and thought about how WalMart is building their first superstore there and it can be seen from the top of this place of peace. :(&lt;/i&gt;

faux ami -  There&apos;s already &lt;a href=http://archaeology.la.asu.edu/teo/moon/images/11/11.arireal2.s.jpg&gt;urbanization&lt;/a&gt;, even if not big box style, to be seen from the top of the &lt;a href=http://archaeology.la.asu.edu/teo/intro/sun.htm&gt;Pyramid of the Sun&lt;/a&gt; (or &lt;a href=http://archaeology.la.asu.edu/teo/moon/moon.en/moon.en.htm&gt;moon&lt;/a&gt; for that matter, both at Teotihuacan).  While I&apos;m as opposed to Walmart&apos;s introduction there as anyone, it&apos;s not as if the pyramids exist in some pristine state isolated from modern civilization.  There&apos;s a two story visitor center and restaurant right at the entrance :(</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2004 00:41:30 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rooftop secrets</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37362/Sacred-Sites#782416</link>	
		<description>A nice glimpse of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sacredsites.com/americas/united_states/hawaiian_sacred_mountains.html&quot;&gt;home &lt;/a&gt;before I go back in two weeks. The volcanoes&apos; interior always looked like Mars to me. Great hikes and incredible sunrises in Haleakala on Maui (picture is Mauna Kea on the Big Island...very similar in appearence though).

On preview: That&apos;s saddening to see rdub. Whenever you see pictures of that place it looks like it&apos;s in the middle of nowhere, isolated from civilization. Next stop suburbia, the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sacredsites.com/africa/egypt/great_pyramid.html&quot;&gt;Pyramids&lt;/a&gt;!  (oh...wait. Damn.)</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2004 00:59:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Tufa</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37362/Sacred-Sites#782425</link>	
		<description>I greatly regret missing &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0CE0DC113FF930A35752C0A9659C8B63&quot;&gt;The Edge of Enchantment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;, an exhibit two years ago at the NYC branch of the National Museum of the American Indian.   The exhibit dealt with the material culture and lore of encantos--enchanted places--along Mexico&apos;s Pacific coast.  As the link says: &quot;Their presence makes the entire area, with its dwindling fishing villages and burgeoning resorts, a kind of spiritual minefield.  You have to be careful where you step.&quot;  These fused spiritual and day-to-day concerns are what make Mexico so interesting to me:  pre-Columbian Quetzalcoatl is manifesting himself, Catholic stone saints&apos; wings are being clipped to keep them flying out of chapels, even as north-bound immigrants are mindfully picking their way across the borderlands.

Right here in Tucson, in the scarcifying Barrio Viejo part of town, is our own small, sooty shrine, &lt;a href=&quot;http://home.att.net/~sdhalversen/thennow/eltiradito.html&quot;&gt;El Tiradito&lt;/a&gt; (trans.:&quot;The Castaway&quot;).  The only shrine in the United States dedicated to the soul of a sinner buried in unconsecrated ground, so the Historical Society says.  There in the 1870s a railroad worker trysted with his mother-in-law, was discovered and disemboweled by his father-in-law.  Prayer candles are burning there any time of day or night.  

&lt;small&gt;Marginally related but a little more sanctified, shadowplay at Flickr presently has a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/photos/shadowplay/sets/42387/&quot;&gt;hyperreal photoset&lt;/a&gt; on the proceedings of the Semana Santa in the Mexican state of Michoacan. {courtesy vacapinta at &lt;a href=&quot;http://banubula.blogspot.com/&quot;&gt;banubula&lt;/a&gt;}&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2004 01:21:30 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: faux ami</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37362/Sacred-Sites#782430</link>	
		<description>rdub: I&apos;m going to come off as effete and challenge-able, but I do think &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.paris.org/Monuments/Arc/gifs/arc0.html&quot;&gt;some&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://destroy.net/photos/italia/venizia/stmarks/&quot;&gt;places&lt;/a&gt; preserve their heritage better than others (often to their own detriment, like Paris), despite &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.exploitz.com/pictures/4177/index.php?pix=5&quot;&gt;urbanization,&lt;/a&gt;.

There&apos;s a McDo in this piazza, but it&apos;s hidden.  Yikes, I&apos;ve derailed this thread, sorry!</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2004 01:31:18 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rdub</title>
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		<description>faux ami:  no worries.  Having been to both Teotihuacan and Venice this year, I have to agree that Italy&apos;s urbanization is much more graceful than Mexico&apos;s.  I&apos;m not at all happy about Walmart going in there, I&apos;m just saying that it doesn&apos;t surprise me.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2004 04:06:08 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Civil_Disobedient</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37362/Sacred-Sites#782496</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Whether or not you&apos;re refering to the Kumba Mela it&apos;s still pretty damn cool anyway.&lt;/i&gt;

I think that&apos;s it.  Just a quick Googling revealed &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.zenzibar.com/Articles/kumbhamela/panorama12.jpg&quot;&gt;this panorama&lt;/a&gt;, which isn&apos;t exactly what I remember, but it close enough.  Thanks!</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2004 04:13:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Civil_Disobedient</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37362/Sacred-Sites#782497</link>	
		<description>And on even further Googling: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.zenzibar.com/Articles/kumbhamela/panorama-2.htm&quot;&gt;Holy crap.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2004 04:15:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Shane</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37362/Sacred-Sites#782606</link>	
		<description>You consistently dish up damn good link, stb. You&apos;re one of my favorite post-ers.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2004 07:00:05 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: buddhanarchist</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37362/Sacred-Sites#782970</link>	
		<description>although its quite different in a way-- the remarkable film &quot;Baraka&quot; visits some of the same turf in an epic 2 hour film shot in 70mm without plot, charcters or dialogue-- just images of places like these and music. An amazing film-- something to check out if you like this post</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2004 10:31:30 -0800</pubDate>
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