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	<title>Comments on: Mint chip anyone?</title>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2004 11:04:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Mint chip anyone?</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37388/Mint-chip-anyone</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://gemal.dk/blog/2004/11/30/netscape_browser_screenshots/&quot;&gt;
Screenshots from the new Netscape release.&lt;/a&gt;   (via &lt;a href=&quot;http://waxy.org/links/&quot;&gt;waxy&lt;/a&gt;)</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2004 11:00:04 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>bluno</dc:creator>		<category>waxy</category>		<category>netscape</category>		<category>browsers</category>		<category>web</category>		<category>mozilla</category>
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		<title>By: Pretty_Generic</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37388/Mint-chip-anyone#783028</link>	
		<description>Firefox with the IE engine sounds pretty much ideal to me, actually. Thanks.

And, um, does this mean AOL are actually finally going to package their OWN BROWSER with their ISP client?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2004 11:04:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: timb</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37388/Mint-chip-anyone#783034</link>	
		<description>so... ugly...</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2004 11:09:03 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dipsomaniac</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37388/Mint-chip-anyone#783035</link>	
		<description>Ah, they&apos;ve finally managed to package some of IE&apos;s security holes into an open-source browser. 

And Microsoft says that open-source can&apos;t compete.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2004 11:09:46 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Wolfdog</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37388/Mint-chip-anyone#783039</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://gemal.dk/misc/nsb05.png&quot;&gt;I don&apos;t even have a clever analogy for how ugly that is.&lt;/a&gt;  Maybe they could animate all the widgets and throw in some blinking lights along the top.

And the menu bar goes at the upper right of the window since... when, exactly?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2004 11:12:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bonaldi</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37388/Mint-chip-anyone#783041</link>	
		<description>Jesus wept. Is there a single Windows application that&apos;s aesthetically pleasing? I mean, wow.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2004 11:12:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Faint of Butt</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37388/Mint-chip-anyone#783046</link>	
		<description>Too much computer and not enough typewriter.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2004 11:13:40 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Pretty_Generic</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37388/Mint-chip-anyone#783049</link>	
		<description>Bear in mind that those screenshots are using the horrible Fisher-Price XP default look-and-feel, which anyone sensible turns off immediately.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2004 11:15:33 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: LushMojo</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37388/Mint-chip-anyone#783050</link>	
		<description>To paraphrase Bill Macy in State and Main......it looks like Edith Head puked and that puke designed this browser.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2004 11:16:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Pretty_Generic</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37388/Mint-chip-anyone#783053</link>	
		<description>In Wolfdog&apos;s shot, I&apos;d say that getting rid of the fucking background dots and the fucking nuclear green colour (which I assume are options) would do wonders for the aesthetics. And having the menu in the title bar is a good idea. More space for the brower window, and you can always grab slightly to the right of the menu if you want.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2004 11:18:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: selfnoise</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37388/Mint-chip-anyone#783059</link>	
		<description>Ze googles do nothing!

Looks like it was designed by a depressed toddler.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2004 11:21:20 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tpl1212</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37388/Mint-chip-anyone#783070</link>	
		<description>&quot;The Netscape prototype is built upon Mozilla Firefox 0.9.3...&quot;

Why not Firefox 1.0?  Weren&apos;t there some security issues with the pre-1.0 release?

And yes.  Those screenshots are ugly as unloved poo.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2004 11:26:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: BradNelson</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37388/Mint-chip-anyone#783088</link>	
		<description>Nasty. So very, very nasty. I&apos;ve always hated Netscape and it still bugs me that my parents use it religiously.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2004 11:40:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sparx</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37388/Mint-chip-anyone#783138</link>	
		<description>It reminds me of the /. interface for some reason.  Go figure.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2004 12:12:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: odinsdream</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37388/Mint-chip-anyone#783139</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Bear in mind that those screenshots are using the horrible Fisher-Price XP default look-and-feel, which anyone sensible turns off immediately.&lt;/em&gt;

I don&apos;t have XP available to test this, but from the screenshots this does not look anything like XP&apos;s cartoon default theme. It looks much, much worse. It appears they&apos;re using their own custom-made ugly skin.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2004 12:12:30 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: odinsdream</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37388/Mint-chip-anyone#783141</link>	
		<description>It reminds me of the kind of images people make when they first discover Photoshop filters. It looks like the developers just threw in everything they could possibly think of, and wrapped each individual item in a black border, shaded it, and added lense flare for good measure.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2004 12:13:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Phatbank</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37388/Mint-chip-anyone#783152</link>	
		<description>Hmm... doesn&apos;t have enough options, buttons, or contextual menu selections.  I mean, I&apos;m a fan of restrained, utilitarian interface design...  but sheesh!

j/k</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2004 12:24:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: squeak</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37388/Mint-chip-anyone#783169</link>	
		<description>I agree horrid horrid design though I do like the menu in the title bar as well but will I switch? nope :)</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2004 12:30:40 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jefgodesky</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37388/Mint-chip-anyone#783220</link>	
		<description>Wait, wait .... &quot;based on Firefox, but with a twist - it includes support for switching to Microsoft&apos;s IE engine.&quot;  What does that mean?  They&apos;re going to replace my beautiful, standards-compliant Gecko with Microsoft&apos;s antiquated and hideously broken Trident engine?  That&apos;s so wrong on so many levels.  And just when Firefox&apos;s headway on the market share was giving me cause for hope, too.

Why must you smash my dreams, bluno, why?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2004 12:55:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Wolfdog</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37388/Mint-chip-anyone#783225</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;ugly as unloved poo&lt;/i&gt;

I &lt;em&gt;knew&lt;/em&gt; I&apos;d recognize the right simile when I saw it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2004 12:57:35 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: breath</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37388/Mint-chip-anyone#783244</link>	
		<description>Wait, there&apos;s &lt;i&gt;loved&lt;/i&gt; poo?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2004 13:08:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sticherbeast</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37388/Mint-chip-anyone#783260</link>	
		<description>/me looks up at a tattered painting of a poo in a bonnet with a single withered flower underneath the frame

/me writes with a quill pen, &quot;Oh, there was loved poo once. Once...&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2004 13:18:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: angry modem</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37388/Mint-chip-anyone#783271</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m trying to figure out what the point of Netscape still existing is with Mozilla, Firefox, Camino, Safari, Toledo, Bunghole, etc.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2004 13:26:30 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: obfusciatrist</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37388/Mint-chip-anyone#783289</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Wait, there&apos;s loved poo?&lt;/i&gt;

Ever been around an 18-month-old who has figured out how to take off his diaper?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2004 13:42:54 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mkultra</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37388/Mint-chip-anyone#783318</link>	
		<description>They&apos;re going to have to invent some new awards to recognize just how awful that interface is. Ugh. They should be ashamed.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2004 14:00:56 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Fezboy!</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37388/Mint-chip-anyone#783322</link>	
		<description>Hrm...  It&apos;s Firefox with lots of crappy adware and plonky doodads.  And you say you get an option for Trident too? 

Jesus wept.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2004 14:03:41 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Fezboy!</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Stan Chin</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37388/Mint-chip-anyone#783340</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;They&apos;re going to have to invent some new awards to recognize just how awful that interface is.&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.awardsscoop.org/history/point.gif&quot;&gt;

Wooo! &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.awardsscoop.org/background/history/page2.html &quot;&gt;Congrats&lt;/a&gt; Netscape!</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2004 14:13:21 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Stan Chin</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Space Coyote</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37388/Mint-chip-anyone#783360</link>	
		<description>On the bright side, at least they didn&apos;t give it a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mozilla.org/projects/firefox/&quot;&gt;retarded name&lt;/a&gt;.  That&apos;s got to count for something.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2004 14:31:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: i_am_joe&apos;s_spleen</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37388/Mint-chip-anyone#783367</link>	
		<description>What a usability nightmare. It&apos;s fuzzy. The menus are on the right. The location/address box is IN BETWEEN THE BUTTONS!!!

Never mind unloved poo. Hated, reviled, dysenteric poo, more like.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2004 14:37:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: NewBornHippy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37388/Mint-chip-anyone#783426</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt; Firefox with the IE engine sounds pretty much ideal to me, actually. Thanks.&lt;/em&gt;

You&apos;re being sarcastic, right?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2004 15:19:07 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Tlogmer</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37388/Mint-chip-anyone#783476</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;They&apos;re going to replace my beautiful, standards-compliant Gecko with Microsoft&apos;s antiquated and hideously broken Trident engine?&lt;/i&gt;

No no no -- it&apos;s just an option.  You can switch between them.

&lt;img src=&quot;http://gemal.dk/misc/nsb14.png&quot; /&gt;

I&apos;m a little pissed off for ideological reasons, but they&apos;re hardly replacing Gecko.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2004 15:45:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Pretty_Generic</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37388/Mint-chip-anyone#783542</link>	
		<description>NewBornHippy - no. People are retards, and people retardedly make webpages that only work properly in IE. Frequently. I want to be able to view those webpages as the author intended, even though the authors are retards, because it just makes my life easier. It&apos;s pragmatic.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2004 17:00:48 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Pretty_Generic</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: TimeFactor</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37388/Mint-chip-anyone#783661</link>	
		<description>It has all the beauty of an &lt;a href=&quot;http://photo.sohu.com/2004/02/03/50/Img218885004.jpg&quot;&gt;AMC Pacer&lt;/a&gt; but with all the technological advances of a &lt;a href=&quot;http://photo.sohu.com/2004/02/03/50/Img218885005.jpg&quot;&gt;Chevy Vega&lt;/a&gt; engine.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2004 18:44:08 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>TimeFactor</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: euphorb</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37388/Mint-chip-anyone#783721</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt; On the bright side, at least they didn&apos;t give it a retarded name.&lt;/em&gt;

said Space Coyote. 
&lt;small&gt;Not that I disagree with you, but the logo is a flaming space fox. How cool is that?&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2004 19:49:24 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: NewBornHippy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37388/Mint-chip-anyone#784854</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;It&apos;s pragmatic.&lt;/em&gt;

Point taken. Here&apos;s my approach: I&apos;m lobbying my company to drop support for IE and force  our customoer to use mozilla. We&apos;re in the security business, and alloing configuration of security apparatus with IE is no good practice (even if in practicality, the risks are almost non existent.)</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Dec 2004 16:23:56 -0800</pubDate>
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