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	<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2004 18:55:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Atari BackWater Produces First Page Post</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.atariprotos.com"&gt;The Atari Games That Never Were&lt;/a&gt; -- and then &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.atariprotos.com/5200/software/tumbleweeds/tumbleweeds.htm&quot;&gt;some&lt;/a&gt;. A community dedicated to rooting out prototype or unreleased titles such as &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.atariprotos.com/2600/software/alligator/alligatorpeople.htm&quot;&gt;Alligator People&lt;/a&gt;,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.atariprotos.com/2600/software/monstercise/monstercise.htm&quot;&gt;Monstercise&lt;/a&gt;  and -- hey cool -- &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.atariprotos.com/2600/software/unknown1/unknown1.htm&quot;&gt;a genre-busting color-field.&lt;/a&gt;  While all this may seem a tad on the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.atariprotos.com/5200/software/petestest/petestest.htm&quot;&gt;esoteric&lt;/a&gt; side,  the glimpses into the&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.atariprotos.com/2600/software/mcdonalds/mcdonalds.htm&quot;&gt; the art&lt;/a&gt; is&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.atariprotos.com/2600/software/blinds/blinds.htm&quot;&gt; cool&lt;/a&gt;,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.atariprotos.com/other/sears/artofsears.htm&quot;&gt; hey&lt;/a&gt;?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2004 18:42:19 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>undule</dc:creator>		<category>game</category>		<category>games</category>		<category>gaming</category>		<category>atari</category>
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		<title>By: svenvog</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37408/Atari-BackWater-Produces-First-Page-Post#783676</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;The philosophy behind the Puffer was to try and make exercising fun.&lt;/em&gt;  
Just imagine what games would look like today if thier progenitors high scores were based on athletic abilities like peddeling?.  The cigarette/conviencestore/afterschool videogame subculture of the suburban  rapscallion  would have been a much bleaker life than remembered.</description>
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		<title>By: JeffL</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37408/Atari-BackWater-Produces-First-Page-Post#783698</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.atariprotos.com/2600/software/basicprog/basicprog.htm&quot;&gt;This One&lt;/a&gt; brings back memories.

I can remember seeing this cartridge in the Atari catalog and wondering whether to save up my allowance to get it.  Based on the description on the site, it&apos;s a good thing that I waited a few years to get an Atari 800 and learn 6502 assembly language, instead of being introduced to programming with this thing.

I&apos;ve gotta question whether you could really only enter 9 or 11 lines of code, though... surely it wasn&apos;t that limited?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2004 19:18:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: gluechunk</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37408/Atari-BackWater-Produces-First-Page-Post#783712</link>	
		<description>Not updated a lot, but there&apos;s also &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lostlevels.org/&quot;&gt;lostlevels.org&lt;/a&gt;.

I got to briefly play &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.atariage.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=49959&quot;&gt;Ixion&lt;/a&gt; for the 2600 earlier this year - it&apos;s a very fun game.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2004 19:34:19 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: glenwood</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37408/Atari-BackWater-Produces-First-Page-Post#783728</link>	
		<description>[this is berry cool]</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2004 19:55:52 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Otis</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37408/Atari-BackWater-Produces-First-Page-Post#783733</link>	
		<description>This is a great find. For those who haven&apos;t seen it, also check out &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.atariage.com/&quot;&gt;Atari Age.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2004 19:59:04 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Faint of Butt</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37408/Atari-BackWater-Produces-First-Page-Post#783749</link>	
		<description>What a neat site. Thanks, undule. It&apos;s nice to see a video game nostalgia site that&apos;s not loaded with sex jokes and profanity (*coughseanbabycough*), since while that can be funny, you can&apos;t really show it to your grandmother. This one is great. I&apos;d love to see it updated with Lynx and Jaguar stuff.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2004 20:10:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: homodigitalis</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37408/Atari-BackWater-Produces-First-Page-Post#783765</link>	
		<description>I killed my VCS 2600 after they released &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.snopes.com/business/market/atari.asp&quot;&gt;ET &lt;/a&gt;... argh!</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2004 20:28:32 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: undule</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37408/Atari-BackWater-Produces-First-Page-Post#783784</link>	
		<description>That game was horrible, I agree, but I also think it was kind of a work of accidental genius -- in the purely surrealistic sense. About the only thing I remember from playing E.T. was how absolutely bizarre watching his neck extend was -- in retrospect, it  strikes me as some particularly droll penile doodadery.  That and absolutely nothing made any sense whatsoever, the primary goal being basically -- get over this hole here, kid. 

Which isn&apos;t Freudian, really, so much as it is existential.

*woot!*</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2004 20:50:15 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tomplus2</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37408/Atari-BackWater-Produces-First-Page-Post#783845</link>	
		<description>I don&apos;t get me.   I quickly flipped through the site and got giddy when I saw the &lt;a href=http://www.atariprotos.com/2600/software/dumbo/dumbo.htm&gt;Dumbo 2600 game&lt;/a&gt;.   I&apos;m not a Disney fan, nor a Dumbo fan,  but my brain jumped back to the day when I used to get excited about the littlest advancements in the graphics on the 2600.  I used to freak when new games were pushing the hardware - anything looked better than tank or super breakout.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2004 21:56:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: undule</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37408/Atari-BackWater-Produces-First-Page-Post#783982</link>	
		<description>Tomplus2, I think the poetry here is that you can associate any emotion whatsoever, with this .. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.atariprotos.com/2600/software/dumbo/dumbo_3.png&quot;&gt;!&lt;/a&gt;

I truly believe this electronic archaeology is the unearthing a profoundly &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.thinkexist.com/quotation/beauty_will_be_convulsive_or_will_not_be_at_all/322268.html&quot;&gt;convulsive&lt;/a&gt; art.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Dec 2004 02:51:02 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>undule</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Mick</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37408/Atari-BackWater-Produces-First-Page-Post#784020</link>	
		<description>Great link, thanks</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Dec 2004 04:20:55 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: hughbot</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37408/Atari-BackWater-Produces-First-Page-Post#784076</link>	
		<description>I had a dream once that I went into a videogame store and found the &lt;a href=&quot;http://starmen.net/articles/qt/775.php&quot;&gt;Earthbound Zero&lt;/a&gt; (or Mother, for you Nintendo hipster) prototype in a bin for five dollars.

I felt like crying when I woke up.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Dec 2004 06:22:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: retronic</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37408/Atari-BackWater-Produces-First-Page-Post#784364</link>	
		<description>this is a great site.  reminds me of the time i relived my Vectrex obsession in the early 90s...poor Tom Sloper!  i tracked him down at activision--he was VERY gracious and generous with his time.

those first-wave game developers are classy folks.

heh!  another memory springs to mind--when i tracked down the developer of the atari 8-bit classic &quot;dandy&quot; (the precursor to the arcade juggernaut &quot;gauntlet&quot;).

anybody here a recovering dandy-addict?  that game STILL has playability--and the built-in level editor = endless hours of fun (where fun = tormenting your friends with evilly difficult level-design).

yes, i am a dork.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Dec 2004 10:23:54 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Otis</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37408/Atari-BackWater-Produces-First-Page-Post#784691</link>	
		<description>retronic, have you read the interviews &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dadgum.com/halcyon/BOOK/MISC/CONTENTS.HTM&quot;&gt;here?&lt;/a&gt;

(My mom weathered a Detroit snowstorm at Christmas to get me a Vextrex when they first came out. I still play it today.)</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Dec 2004 14:35:57 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Otis</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: retronic</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37408/Atari-BackWater-Produces-First-Page-Post#784949</link>	
		<description>Otis, thanks!  that site is a treasure-trove of videogame nostalgia...sorta like folklore.org is for mac geeks.

by the time my speccy young self could afford to buy a vectrex, it was already on the way out, selling for $50.  i bought a system and as many carts as i could get my hands on, but sadly, never managed to find a pair of the elusive 3D goggles (the holy grail of vectrex lore).

i ended up selling that system to a good friend (the bastard!)...so years later, i had to go scavenging for a replacement.

one thing i&apos;ll say--it held its value!</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Dec 2004 18:15:34 -0800</pubDate>
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