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December 7, 2004 3:34 PM   Subscribe

Thunderbird 1.0 out My faverit mail client!
posted by k7lim (50 comments total)

 
i liek it to. lololol1111!1
posted by keswick at 3:38 PM on December 7, 2004


I love to read my email while drinking down a nice Pepsi Blue.
posted by Zurishaddai at 3:39 PM on December 7, 2004


To be fair, Pepsi Blue used to cost money. Thunderbird does not.

But, you know, maybe some supporting links would have made this more compelling.
posted by Galvatron at 3:45 PM on December 7, 2004


Only old people use email.
posted by srboisvert at 3:50 PM on December 7, 2004


whoops sorry, o galvatron.

...faverit mail client!

over 500k reasons
posted by k7lim at 3:52 PM on December 7, 2004


is this available on the internets?
posted by NationalKato at 3:55 PM on December 7, 2004


"...supporting links would have made this more compelling."

MeFirst Syndrome; symptoms include low or no background/collateral links, poor grammar and spelling, resembles NewsFilter.

However, k7, I appreciate the note. I never sub to "get our event news, lies and crap" newsletter and TB lacks the "update available" notification of FireFox. I'm sure you were dying for a technolgy thread to slip this in, until you couldn't take it anymore. It was a choice between FPP or screaming the news at strangers out your window.
posted by MiltonRandKalman at 3:57 PM on December 7, 2004


FPP? wassat?


MRK: thanks lending a hand to a MeFirst... but I yet fail. haha
posted by k7lim at 4:06 PM on December 7, 2004


Here's my favorite email!
posted by birdherder at 4:07 PM on December 7, 2004


I think FPP means "Front Page Post", but as I am a newbie, my thought on the matter is hardly a reference.
posted by Plinko at 4:09 PM on December 7, 2004


FPP = front page post. Read all about abbreviations and in-jokes in the Wiki.
posted by ALongDecember at 4:10 PM on December 7, 2004


Well you gave me my first submission to AcronymFinder, my favorite niche reference site.

I assume you're joking about FPP, if not see MetaTalk Useful Links Sidebar. You can waste a day on inside jokes, meta references and learn about pony acquisitions.

On preview... There was a huge WOOOSH sound from all the FPP answers that just landed. My ears pooped.
posted by MiltonRandKalman at 4:15 PM on December 7, 2004


Interestingly, the FAQ actually suggests not using annoying acronyms.

Besides, MattHaughey doesn't like it - need we say more?

posted by Plinko at 4:16 PM on December 7, 2004


My ears pooped.

I'm... sorry to hear that.
posted by Galvatron at 4:18 PM on December 7, 2004


A new nightly build of firewhatever came out last night too...
posted by Space Coyote at 4:21 PM on December 7, 2004


I liked Thunderbird 0.9, but I hated the fact that I couldn't sort my emails by the account through which they arrived (I check several different addresses). 1.0 does not appear to have changed that. So I'm back to that filthy beast that is Outlook.
posted by BradNelson at 4:24 PM on December 7, 2004


THE REALLY GREAT THING ABOUT THIS POST IS HE THINKS IT'S ACTUALLY SPELLED 'FAVERIT'
posted by quonsar at 4:24 PM on December 7, 2004


BradNelson, so you want a combined inbox?
posted by Plinko at 4:26 PM on December 7, 2004


Note to diary: 20th post. Made ass of self due to typo, totally ruined thread topic, joins exclusive club consisting of millions of web-based forum users.

I couldn't sort my emails by the account through which they arrived (I check several different addresses).


Rules for sorting to folders based on account/listserv works for me. You can also create Rule to add a Label and you can sort by that. It's a workaround but not a terrible one.
posted by MiltonRandKalman at 4:30 PM on December 7, 2004


Still my faverit!
posted by Wolfdog at 4:30 PM on December 7, 2004


Thanks for the heads-up. It's my faveritoo.

I also believe Matt isn't particularly fond of FPP, for good reason. What's wrong with post?
posted by muckster at 4:40 PM on December 7, 2004


Also dude, "Yo la tengo" means "I have it." Y'know those fogies that treat you like a yutz for being some college kid who knows everything? Unfortunately, that's us.
posted by yerfatma at 4:42 PM on December 7, 2004


mozilla kicks major ass these days!
posted by clubmedia at 4:42 PM on December 7, 2004


Does it com with a spell checkor?
posted by krisjohn at 4:47 PM on December 7, 2004


I also believe Matt isn't particularly fond of FPP, for good reason. What's wrong with post?

Well, some people think that one posts to a thread, thereby making a post that is not a front page post.
posted by trharlan at 4:49 PM on December 7, 2004


But quonsar, you'll always be my faverit.

But what's an email program?
posted by fenriq at 4:50 PM on December 7, 2004


Don't you know that email is for old people!
posted by o0o0o at 5:01 PM on December 7, 2004


I'm probably going to be told that I should already know this, but o0o0o, how did you get that neat pop up when my mouse hovers over "old people"?
posted by Plinko at 5:07 PM on December 7, 2004


Plinko: [a href="http://www.metafilter.com" title="my faverit website"]mefi[/a]

replacing [ ] with <>:
mefi
posted by Zurishaddai at 5:15 PM on December 7, 2004


Ah, so the rest is automagically generated. Thanks Zurishaddai.
posted by Plinko at 5:17 PM on December 7, 2004


krisjohn, yes it deos. Jus clik "controhl K" b4 sending aut a compoused mesagh.
posted by grimcity at 5:17 PM on December 7, 2004


fogie yerfatma: indeed i'm a yutz

Yo La Tengo = Spanish for the outfielder's cry of "I've got it!"
posted by k7lim at 5:23 PM on December 7, 2004


trharlan, you comment in a thread.
posted by muckster at 5:25 PM on December 7, 2004


Plinko: I create folders inside my inbox, one for each email account. Outlook automatically sorts all my emails into these folders because it checks the account that they are arriving through.
posted by BradNelson at 5:30 PM on December 7, 2004


The release for fortuitous for me. I just decided yesterday to start using an email client for my university mail again as Yahoo! has been bouncing every third forward from the school mail system. I've tried complaining but no humans seem to work at Yahoo! as far as I can tell. I installed Tbird and have been using it for IMAP mail and so far it works well but it will take a few weeks of use to know if I like it or not. I'm interested in how well the spam filters work.

Oh and it does have a spell check, both on the fly and document wide.

***mifi's spell checker doesn't know the word "spam"!***
posted by octothorpe at 5:36 PM on December 7, 2004


eMail is for dead people.
posted by Extopalopaketle at 5:39 PM on December 7, 2004


BradNelson, when putting in new POP accounts, uncheck "Use Global Inbox" and each account will get its own separate Inbox.
posted by zsazsa at 5:56 PM on December 7, 2004


Unless they changed it from RC1 that I downloaded yesterday, the newsreader won't connect to a server that requires authentication.
posted by AstroGuy at 6:02 PM on December 7, 2004


zsazsa: Thank you. I might try it out again.
posted by BradNelson at 6:08 PM on December 7, 2004


I think BradNelson just means a simple filter. In my Outlook, I filter all email to spam@mydomain.com to my "Deleted Items" folder. I use my catchall and/or spam@mydomain.com to sign up for internet servivces and so on -- if an important message gets sent to me, I can rescue it, but if not, I can leave it in "Deleted Items" and erase it when I empty the folder.

Last time I downloaded Thunderbird, each of my several accounts had to be seperate, which was quite annoying. The "Global Inbox" feature seems to be the perfect remedy, so long as I can filter items into various subfolders (or the trash) depending on the account which they are recieved. If "account" is one of the filtering criteria, (BradNelson and) I have nothing to worry about. If not, I'm sticking with Outlook Express for the time being.

(Aside: Does Thunderbird have find-as-you-type? Besides the above, one of the reasons I didn't switch over to Thunderbird last time I tried it out was because it seemed to offer nothing significantly different from Outlook Express other than a UI I was unfamiliar/unhappy with. The first time I tried Firefox I was hooked, because it offered a completely different and streamlined experience. In 20 words or less, does Thunderbird do that as well?
posted by rafter at 6:08 PM on December 7, 2004


AstroGuy, that was the first thing I checked when I downloaded it today. They fixed it.
posted by zsazsa at 6:17 PM on December 7, 2004


rafter - The reason I use Thunderbird is mainly because it doesn't have activeX "support" like IE so none of those email viruses affect you. That's a nice thing about Firebird too. But the fact that it's not Microsoft makes it awfully attractive on it's own, no?

I was happily suprised the other day to see Thunderbird doesn't load images in HTML mail unless you tell it to for particular messages so spamers can't fish for valid addresses by loading a page with your identity in the url of an image on their server.
posted by RemusLupin at 6:31 PM on December 7, 2004


But the fact that it's not Microsoft makes it awfully attractive on it's own, no?

Why? Even if I hated Microsoft's business practices, it's not like I'm paying for Outlook. I already payed Windows, and it came bundled in. As for security, I think I run a pretty tight ship with my system and my incoming mail.

I was happily suprised the other day to see Thunderbird doesn't load images in HTML mail unless you tell it to

Outlook Express does this too, actually, with SP2.
posted by rafter at 6:54 PM on December 7, 2004


I liked Thunderbird 0.9, but I hated the fact that I couldn't sort my emails by the account through which they arrived

That's easy . . . but what I can't figure out if how to set up a different address book for each account. Not that I mean to turn this into AskMeFi, but it's been bugging me for weeks.

Also not that I'm any expert — I've never even tried Pepsi Blue. (Does P. Blue have a workable spam filter?)
posted by LeLiLo at 7:09 PM on December 7, 2004


I usest gmailemail and lerver it.
posted by xammerboy at 7:10 PM on December 7, 2004


I think Thunderbird rocks. I initially installed it because Outlook 2003 annoyed the heck outta me. For GUI-based email, I pretty much use only Thunderbird and Evolution (I use Gmail and Pine daily, but they're in a different category, really). And Evolution annoys me as much as Outlook, no matter what its proselytizers say.

I've only had two complaints with Thunderbird:

* It used to crash when I sent messages with attachments...after sending the attachments but before saving the message to sent-mail. Real fun when you've sent time-critical files to a big mailing list and have to sheepishly ask the higher-ups whether they got the message or not. This was fixed by deleting some profile stuff and upgrading and isn't an issue anymore, thank ye gods!

* When you flag messages, and then organize them by flag, it places the newest ones at the bottom. Argh, I hate this, why does it think I want to dig through my mail to see my latest flagged item?! (Maybe this is fixed in 1.0? I'm still at 0.7.3.)
posted by jenh at 7:48 PM on December 7, 2004


Thank you for the notice, k7lim.

Another good email program is The Bat! but it's not free. However, it is very well made, stable and secure.
posted by erratic frog at 3:32 AM on December 8, 2004


So, despite earlier snarkiness, I decided to make a commitment to switch to Thunderbird. Some quick questions:

How can I make the "Get new messages" button actually do something? The default action should be "Get new messages (from all accounts)" but clicking on the button itself does nothing. I have to click the dropdown and select "Get All New Messages."

Can I make the server connection status show in some sort of log, instead of just flashing by in an eighth of a second in the status bar? I want some sort of (toggleable) pop-up that says "3 new messages downloaded from account1@example.com. 0 new messages downloaded from account2@example.com. Example.edu mail-server not responding." I had my port set wrong on one of my mailservers, and it took me an hour to figure out why my test messages weren't getting through, because Thunderbird didn't tell me what was wrong.

Finally, how do I make Thunderbird start at my inbox instead of the useless "Local Folders" page? Unchecking the "Use Thunderbird Start Page" option has no effect.

Thanks --
posted by rafter at 11:08 AM on December 8, 2004


of course, the extensions I find useful no longer work, at least my favorite theme has been updated.
posted by gren at 4:43 AM on December 9, 2004


gren, i just downloaded quotecolors for the first time, and it seems to work a-ok. i had an old quickreply and TB said "no updates available."> But lo and behold, an update is available

perhaps the updating tool is buggy.
posted by k7lim at 12:06 PM on December 9, 2004


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