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	<title>Comments on: What I had come looking for were the secrets to my father&apos;s murder.</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2004 17:33:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>What I had come looking for were the secrets to my father&apos;s murder.</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37797/What-I-had-come-looking-for-were-the-secrets-to-my-fathers-murder</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.latimes.com/features/printedition/magazine/la-tm-father50dec12,0,7910670.story?coll=la-home-magazine"&gt;What I had come looking for were the secrets to my father&apos;s murder.&lt;/a&gt; &lt;small&gt;[&lt;cite&gt;LA Times&lt;/cite&gt; link]&lt;/small&gt; In 1972, when Mark Arax was 15, his father was killed by two unknown gunmen. He spent nearly three decades trying to solve the crime, and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.markarax.com/books.shtml&quot;&gt;wrote a book&lt;/a&gt; about his investigation. Then a break in the case led to some suprising discoveries.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2004 17:03:53 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>kirkaracha</dc:creator>		<category>arax</category>		<category>markarax</category>		<category>murder</category>		<category>books</category>		<category>Fresno</category>		<category>crime</category>
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		<title>By: caseymcg</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37797/What-I-had-come-looking-for-were-the-secrets-to-my-fathers-murder#796136</link>	
		<description>Wow, thanks for the link.  I read the book when it first came out on the strength of a review and loved it.  I became fascinated by the mystery and by the portrait of Fresno, then and now.  Unlike the author, I never thought another piece of the story would break.  Now I feel thrown back into it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2004 17:33:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: davy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37797/What-I-had-come-looking-for-were-the-secrets-to-my-fathers-murder#796144</link>	
		<description>It&apos;s a too bit self-aggrandizing, film noir and sentimental for me. Who&apos;ll direct the HBO movie version?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2004 17:37:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: srboisvert</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37797/What-I-had-come-looking-for-were-the-secrets-to-my-fathers-murder#796155</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Dad had a friend mold a three-pound hunk of lead that fit into my jock for weigh-ins. &lt;/em&gt;

I wonder if this was the first use of the  [MI] tag?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2004 17:48:57 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: livii</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37797/What-I-had-come-looking-for-were-the-secrets-to-my-fathers-murder#796156</link>	
		<description>Fabulous story, thank you for the link.  Intensely personal and moving.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2004 17:48:57 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: numlok</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37797/What-I-had-come-looking-for-were-the-secrets-to-my-fathers-murder#796178</link>	
		<description>Yes, thanks for the link.  Ah, the tule fog...</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2004 18:19:32 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jkaczor</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37797/What-I-had-come-looking-for-were-the-secrets-to-my-fathers-murder#796188</link>	
		<description>Wow, I couldn&apos;t stop, thanks for the link - powerful.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2004 18:39:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bingo</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37797/What-I-had-come-looking-for-were-the-secrets-to-my-fathers-murder#796195</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;90 feet between the bases and 60 feet, 6 inches from pitcher to home plate&lt;/em&gt;

Isn&apos;t that a strange-shaped baseball diamond?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2004 18:46:03 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: livii</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37797/What-I-had-come-looking-for-were-the-secrets-to-my-fathers-murder#796199</link>	
		<description>Back again, I also wanted to thank you because I looked up Mark Arax after this, and found his book &quot;The King of California&quot;, and it&apos;s an absolutely perfect gift for my mother-in-law, and so now that&apos;s one more Christmas gift bought.

Er, that was quite the run-on sentence.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2004 18:48:57 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Colloquial Collision</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37797/What-I-had-come-looking-for-were-the-secrets-to-my-fathers-murder#796210</link>	
		<description>Good post, thanks.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2004 19:02:19 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: shoepal</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37797/What-I-had-come-looking-for-were-the-secrets-to-my-fathers-murder#796214</link>	
		<description>great story, kirkaracha!  Thanks!</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2004 19:08:55 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: quonsar</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37797/What-I-had-come-looking-for-were-the-secrets-to-my-fathers-murder#796222</link>	
		<description>got sucked right in! thanks, kirkaracha!</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2004 19:19:58 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: freedryk</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37797/What-I-had-come-looking-for-were-the-secrets-to-my-fathers-murder#796231</link>	
		<description>Complex.  Reminds me of something that might be on This American Life.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2004 19:32:13 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: reflection</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37797/What-I-had-come-looking-for-were-the-secrets-to-my-fathers-murder#796232</link>	
		<description>That was an amazing 30 minutes.  Sorry it took him so long.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2004 19:33:35 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: cadastral</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37797/What-I-had-come-looking-for-were-the-secrets-to-my-fathers-murder#796241</link>	
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;em&gt;Isn&apos;t that a strange-shaped baseball diamond?&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;90&apos; between bases and 60&apos;6&quot; from pitching rubber to home plate are the dimensions used for adult professional baseball for over a hundred years.  So--unless you&apos;re pointing out that [1]it&apos;s a square, not a diamond, [2]that it&apos;s really 88&apos;6&quot; between bases (because of the width of the base) or [3]that the distance between two sets of two bases is really around 125&apos;3&quot;--then no, nothing is wrong with that diamond.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2004 19:41:55 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: arse_hat</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37797/What-I-had-come-looking-for-were-the-secrets-to-my-fathers-murder#796248</link>	
		<description>Great link. This reminds me of the story about the reporter who confronted  the guy who had raped him as a child. It must be horrid to have one moment in time define your life for decades.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2004 19:55:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: roboto</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37797/What-I-had-come-looking-for-were-the-secrets-to-my-fathers-murder#796250</link>	
		<description>I too read the book and am pleased to now read Mark Arax has learned enough truth and wisdom to find closure, finally.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2004 20:01:56 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: clubfoote</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37797/What-I-had-come-looking-for-were-the-secrets-to-my-fathers-murder#796275</link>	
		<description>I don&apos;t know why that touched me so much, but it was a great read. Thank You for posting it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2004 20:57:37 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: iwearredsocks</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37797/What-I-had-come-looking-for-were-the-secrets-to-my-fathers-murder#796279</link>	
		<description>Mark&apos;s dad exhibits some of what I want to be with my son -  
full of energetic focus
spending time making memories
enough of a hero to inspire.

Tomorrow I think I&apos;ll:  1) call my stepdad.   2) take my son grocery shopping (he&apos;s not yet one, otherwise we&apos;d play baseball).</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2004 21:20:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: metaculpa</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37797/What-I-had-come-looking-for-were-the-secrets-to-my-fathers-murder#796304</link>	
		<description>srboisvert, you made me spit water on my laptop.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2004 23:05:24 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: miss lynnster</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37797/What-I-had-come-looking-for-were-the-secrets-to-my-fathers-murder#796313</link>	
		<description>Has anyone ever read My Dark Places by James Ellroy? Or Shot in the Heart by Mikal Gilmore? More biographic stories written by wounded boys living in haunted men&apos;s bodies... men who similarly became obsessive writers in order to find some way to cope with long-ago murders that took away their childhoods (James Ellroy&apos;s mother&apos;s murder &amp;amp; the serial killings committed by Mikal&apos;s brother Gary, respectively). 

With James Ellroy in particular, his entire persona pivoted on his mother&apos;s murder at such a young age, it makes one wonder how different his life path would&apos;ve been if the murder had never occurred. So sad, and yet... somehow it&apos;s even sadder to think he might have never become a writer had he not felt that gaping hole inside of him that writing filled. It&apos;s like you can feel his mother haunting every page he writes, even in the books that aren&apos;t about her.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2004 23:59:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bingo</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37797/What-I-had-come-looking-for-were-the-secrets-to-my-fathers-murder#796335</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;90&apos; between bases and 60&apos;6&quot; from pitching rubber to home plate are the dimensions used for adult professional baseball for over a hundred years.&lt;/em&gt;

Right, but that&apos;s not what he said. He said six inches from the pitcher&apos;s mound to home plate. Fastballs must be hell.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2004 01:59:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: MrMoonPie</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37797/What-I-had-come-looking-for-were-the-secrets-to-my-fathers-murder#796424</link>	
		<description>Mark Arax is Batman!</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2004 07:10:20 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: languagehat</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37797/What-I-had-come-looking-for-were-the-secrets-to-my-fathers-murder#796446</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;He said six inches from the pitcher&apos;s mound to home plate.&lt;/em&gt;

No he didn&apos;t.  But if you&apos;re desperate to find motives for snark everywhere, I guess you take it where you can.  (I note that even quonsar didn&apos;t feel the need to make a joke here.)

Great link -- thanks, kirkaracha!</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2004 07:46:00 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bingo</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37797/What-I-had-come-looking-for-were-the-secrets-to-my-fathers-murder#796513</link>	
		<description>Actually, I just read it wrong. It was the oddly-placed comma that threw me. And it wasn&apos;t a joke.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2004 09:04:41 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: derangedlarid</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37797/What-I-had-come-looking-for-were-the-secrets-to-my-fathers-murder#796671</link>	
		<description>Arax was interviewed on &lt;em&gt;This American Life&lt;/em&gt; some time back and the archived recording can be found &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thislife.org/&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2004 11:05:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kartooner</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37797/What-I-had-come-looking-for-were-the-secrets-to-my-fathers-murder#797681</link>	
		<description>What an engaging story! I had to read it twice to understand everything. I&apos;m going to have to pick up the book now to read more about this.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2004 08:27:29 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: lia</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37797/What-I-had-come-looking-for-were-the-secrets-to-my-fathers-murder#799529</link>	
		<description>Thanks for this, kirkaracha. Very moving.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2004 13:42:25 -0800</pubDate>
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