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	<title>Comments on: Medal of Freedom for Iraq</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2004 08:52:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Medal of Freedom for Iraq</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37919/Medal-of-Freedom-for-Iraq</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.medaloffreedom.com/PaulBremer.htm"&gt;Medals of Freedom awarded&lt;/a&gt; and I&apos;d like to make some smart comment about current Iraqi conditions and the award and the presenter, but why bother - make your own.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2004 08:47:25 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jim-of-oz</dc:creator>		<category>US</category>		<category>IraqWar</category>		<category>Iraq</category>		<category>War</category>		<category>MedalOfFreedom</category>		<category>PresidentialMedalOfFreedom</category>		<category>PaulBremmer</category>		<category>Bremmer</category>		<category>TommyFranks</category>		<category>Franks</category>		<category>GeorgeTenet</category>		<category>Tenet</category>		<category>GeorgeWBush</category>		<category>GWB</category>		<category>Medal</category>		<category>Freedom</category>
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		<title>By: Captaintripps</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37919/Medal-of-Freedom-for-Iraq#800319</link>	
		<description>I&apos;ve really got no problem with Franks and I&apos;m suspicious of Bremer, but fucking Tenet!?! 

YOU FAILED. YOU WIN NOTHING!

Anyways, there are six Vietnam vets that visit my bar who I think are more deserving than any of these men.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2004 08:52:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: 327.ca</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37919/Medal-of-Freedom-for-Iraq#800322</link>	
		<description>This just makes me feel very, very tired.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2004 08:53:35 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jonmc</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37919/Medal-of-Freedom-for-Iraq#800325</link>	
		<description>I thought the Medal Of Freedom was for civilians. Why didn&apos;t the just give Franks a medal when he was a general?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2004 08:57:08 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: oflinkey</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37919/Medal-of-Freedom-for-Iraq#800327</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt; &amp;gt; but fucking Tenet!?! &lt;/i&gt;

Soooo, the actual value of said Medal of Freedom is now somewhere around that of a plinko chip.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2004 08:59:05 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: the Real Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37919/Medal-of-Freedom-for-Iraq#800329</link>	
		<description>I wonder why Tom Ridge didn&apos;t make the cut.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2004 08:59:49 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>the Real Dan</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: jefgodesky</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37919/Medal-of-Freedom-for-Iraq#800331</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://devoter.com/comments.php?id=910_0_1_0_C&quot;&gt;Devoter&lt;/a&gt;

The CIA did its job, but the evidence was ignored because it wasn&apos;t what &lt;a href=&quot;http://devoter.com/comments.php?id=919_0_1_0_C&quot;&gt;the neoconservatives&lt;/a&gt; wanted to hear.  There were constant warnings prior to 9/11 that were systematically ignored (remember &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_4392.shtml&quot;&gt;Ashcroft on terrorism that summer&lt;/a&gt;?), and the intelligence about Iraq didn&apos;t come from the CIA, but from &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_4392.shtml&quot;&gt;Rummy&apos;s personal spy ring&lt;/a&gt;, hired when the CIA refused to tell them what they wanted to hear.  Of course, Tenet made an excellent and willing &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/comments.mefi/26932&quot;&gt;fall guy&lt;/a&gt; when that intelligence turned out to be total bullshit.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2004 09:02:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: quonsar</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37919/Medal-of-Freedom-for-Iraq#800334</link>	
		<description>so many queens in george tenet...</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2004 09:03:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: odinsdream</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37919/Medal-of-Freedom-for-Iraq#800336</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;&quot;I earned capital in the campaign, political capital, and now I intend to spend it ... &quot;&lt;/em&gt; &lt;small&gt;- 4 Nov 2004&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2004 09:04:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Cyrano</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37919/Medal-of-Freedom-for-Iraq#800339</link>	
		<description>jefgodesky so would have been my hero if that fall guy link had led to a Lee Majors site.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2004 09:10:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Arch Stanton</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37919/Medal-of-Freedom-for-Iraq#800348</link>	
		<description>Ever heard of McGeorge Bundy?

He was a national security advisor to Kennedy and Johnson.  He was involved in the Bay of Pigs, the Cuban Missile Crisis, and Vietnam.  He was a strong proponent of the war in Vietnam in the early 1960s.

He was awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom in 1969 by Lyndon Johnson.

Bush giving Tenet the award is a slap in the face to America and the world, but there is presidence.  We&apos;ve been slapped before.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2004 09:18:57 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Arch Stanton</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: jefgodesky</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37919/Medal-of-Freedom-for-Iraq#800351</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fortunecity.com/lavender/shaft/24/home/&quot;&gt;S&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.leemajors.co.uk/&quot;&gt;o&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lunchboxshop.com/falguylun19.html&quot;&gt;r&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mortystv.com/showcards/fall_guy.shtml&quot;&gt;r&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://timstvshowcase.com/fallguy.html&quot;&gt;y&lt;/a&gt;, Cyrano...</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2004 09:22:24 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Cyrano</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37919/Medal-of-Freedom-for-Iraq#800357</link>	
		<description>*offers service and fealty to his new lord*</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2004 09:25:52 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: drezdn</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37919/Medal-of-Freedom-for-Iraq#800363</link>	
		<description>My thoughts when I heard this the other day were, &quot;Bush is an ass.&quot; 

There are people far more deserving of this award, who have risked their lives for the shifting concept of freedom, but instead, he awards it to the people who were just doing their jobs, and doing them poorly (except maybe Franks).</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2004 09:31:22 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: scaryduck</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37919/Medal-of-Freedom-for-Iraq#800368</link>	
		<description>&quot;The bravest of the brave.&quot;

So, Bremer spends his entire time in Iraq hiding in the Green Zone, and is on the first plane out of there the same day his job closes.

None more brave if you ask me.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2004 09:36:40 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>scaryduck</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: fenriq</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37919/Medal-of-Freedom-for-Iraq#800376</link>	
		<description>All I know is that my four Medal of Freedom&apos;s I&apos;ve already won have just lost about 90% of their value to me because of this.

And the next time the world needs saving, you all are just going to have to go get Superman to do it. Oh wait, he&apos;s dead. Looks like my prices just went up.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2004 09:41:19 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sidhedevil</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37919/Medal-of-Freedom-for-Iraq#800383</link>	
		<description>Would you like a side of Freedom Fries with those medals, gentlemen?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2004 09:45:55 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Remy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37919/Medal-of-Freedom-for-Iraq#800414</link>	
		<description>To pinch the quote Atrios posted yesterday, I hear Bernard Kerik is one scandal away from winning the Presidential Medal of Freedom.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2004 10:13:03 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: thomcatspike</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37919/Medal-of-Freedom-for-Iraq#800448</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;that visit my bar&lt;/em&gt;
Captaintripps, you own a bar?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2004 10:41:49 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: wah</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37919/Medal-of-Freedom-for-Iraq#800462</link>	
		<description>Shouldn&apos;t that be Medal of Freedom&#169;&#8482;

I hear Bush recently staged a successful coup on the word&apos;s connotation.

Or perhaps Medal of &quot;Freedom&quot; would be more typographically accurate?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2004 10:55:21 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mr_roboto</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37919/Medal-of-Freedom-for-Iraq#800481</link>	
		<description>Rumsfeld was totally robbed!</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2004 11:02:57 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Captaintripps</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37919/Medal-of-Freedom-for-Iraq#800529</link>	
		<description>thomcatspike: No. I would love to and actually had an opportunity to buy into the bar I work for, but I don&apos;t own it myself. I do feel somewhat proprietary about it, however.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2004 11:29:00 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kirkaracha</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37919/Medal-of-Freedom-for-Iraq#800564</link>	
		<description>Presidential Medal of Freedumb

&lt;q&gt;&lt;i&gt;Rumsfeld was totally robbed!&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/q&gt;

Nope, the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.medaloffreedom.com/&quot;&gt;Presidential Medal of Fuckups&lt;/a&gt; is reserved for civilians only (which raises the question of what Tommy Franks has done since retiring except shill for Bush during the presidential campaign).

And they aren&apos;t too discerning about giving these out: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.medaloffreedom.com/DavidThomas.htm&quot;&gt;the Wendy&apos;s guy got one&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2004 11:50:49 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Arch Stanton</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37919/Medal-of-Freedom-for-Iraq#800653</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;And they aren&apos;t too discerning about giving these out: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.medaloffreedom.com/DavidThomas.htm&quot;&gt;the Wendy&apos;s guy got one&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.adweek.com/aw/national/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000706559&quot;&gt;Mr. Wendy&lt;/a&gt; was robbed.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2004 13:10:44 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Arch Stanton</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: jim-of-oz</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37919/Medal-of-Freedom-for-Iraq#800669</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://cagle.slate.msn.com/working/041216/britt.gif&quot;&gt;I have to add this.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2004 13:27:05 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jim-of-oz</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: mudpuppie</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37919/Medal-of-Freedom-for-Iraq#800736</link>	
		<description>During his &lt;a href=&quot;http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0412/14/lt.02.html&quot;&gt;speech&lt;/a&gt;, Bush listed as one of his reasons for honoring Bremer that Bremer is a &quot;fashion pioneer.&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2004 14:51:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: fungible</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37919/Medal-of-Freedom-for-Iraq#800785</link>	
		<description>Rumsfeld didn&apos;t get one only because he already has one, from &lt;a href=http://www.whitehouse.gov/government/rumsfeld-bio.html&gt;1977.&lt;/a&gt;  (see last line.)</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2004 15:27:48 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>fungible</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: scaryduck</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37919/Medal-of-Freedom-for-Iraq#801147</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Bremer is a &quot;fashion pioneer.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Freedom through shallow catwalk models! 

I can see Bush&apos;s thinking. When did you last hear about Baghdad Fashion Week?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2004 04:05:06 -0800</pubDate>
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