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	<title>Comments on: Rub</title>
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	<description>Comments on MetaFilter post Rub</description>
	<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2004 13:18:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Rub</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/572/572325p1.html?fromint=1"&gt;When little girls rub their eyes, the face of the man to whom they&apos;re destined will become visible in the swirling eddy of light.&lt;/a&gt; (a short film from Doc Hammer of &lt;a href=&quot;http://venturebros.com/&quot;&gt;Venture Bros.&lt;/a&gt; fame)</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2004 13:03:26 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>buriednexttoyou</dc:creator>		<category>venturebrothers</category>		<category>dochammer</category>		<category>silentfilm</category>		<category>movie</category>		<category>shortfilm</category>
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		<title>By: quonsar</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37965/Rub#801465</link>	
		<description>available in quicktime or windows media, quicktime is 60+ megabytes, didn&apos;t try winmedia.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2004 13:18:17 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>quonsar</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: quonsar</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37965/Rub#801473</link>	
		<description>i forgot:
[this is good]</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2004 13:28:43 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>quonsar</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Hildegarde</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37965/Rub#801480</link>	
		<description>I totally don&apos;t get it. What is this other than a bunch of people with bad makeup pretending to be kids?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2004 13:53:01 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Hildegarde</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: dancingbaptist</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37965/Rub#801493</link>	
		<description>so what about little boys, will they see Jacko?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2004 14:18:56 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>dancingbaptist</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: astruc</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37965/Rub#801501</link>	
		<description>This depressed the hell out of me.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2004 14:29:16 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>astruc</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: languagehat</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37965/Rub#801556</link>	
		<description>I agree with both quonsar ([good]) and astruc (depressing).  Thanks for the post.

&lt;small&gt;Warning: it takes a hell of a long time to download.  But it&apos;s worth it.&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2004 15:42:57 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>languagehat</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: kenko</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37965/Rub#801570</link>	
		<description>That &lt;em&gt;was&lt;/em&gt; good (and I got a decent download speed, too).</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2004 16:18:23 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>kenko</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Hildegarde</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37965/Rub#801572</link>	
		<description>Okay, someone please tell me why that was good. What on earth was good about it?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2004 16:23:38 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Hildegarde</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: seawallrunner</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37965/Rub#801600</link>	
		<description>I didn&apos;t like it either - stopped watching after 8.30 minutes. It&apos;s a very bad silent film, much overacted, and completely uninteresting.

Five yawns.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2004 17:32:24 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>seawallrunner</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: jimmy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37965/Rub#801603</link>	
		<description>it was good, and i&apos;m now fully confident in doc hammer&apos;s abilities (after seeing both this and several episodes of &quot;the venture brothers&quot;).</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2004 17:39:58 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jimmy</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: emanation</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37965/Rub#801627</link>	
		<description>Several people have said it was good, but they don&apos;t say why.  Theme?  Symbolism?  Cinematography?  Acting?  Or can&apos;t we discuss it because there is some rule about possibly spoiling it for those who haven&apos;t seen it?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2004 18:30:49 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>emanation</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: jimmy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37965/Rub#801638</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Several people have said it was good, but they don&apos;t say why. Theme? Symbolism? Cinematography? Acting?&lt;/i&gt;

sure.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2004 18:53:27 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jimmy</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: quonsar</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37965/Rub#801639</link>	
		<description>&quot;it was good&quot; == &quot;i liked it&quot;.

your mileage may vary. why is that hard to get?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2004 18:54:32 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>quonsar</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Plinko</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37965/Rub#801647</link>	
		<description>[this is okay]</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2004 19:05:58 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Plinko</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: hopeless romantique</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37965/Rub#801651</link>	
		<description>I liked the theme, which incorporates acting style, cinematography and overall ridiculousness.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2004 19:07:44 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>hopeless romantique</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Hildegarde</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37965/Rub#801669</link>	
		<description>I&apos;ll spoil it. You&apos;ve been warned.

It&apos;s a fake silent film that seems to have been shot in someone&apos;s grandfather&apos;s house. There are two adult women with lots of make up and really bruised up eyes. It looks like they punched each other out a couple of days ago. These two adult women are supposed to be &quot;girls&quot;. One girl apparently has tuberculosis or something. The girls rub their eyes and try to see the man they&apos;re going to marry. The coughing girl can&apos;t see anyone, so she figures she won&apos;t get married. For some reason there&apos;s a boy in this short who has a crush on their nurse. I don&apos;t know what his purpose is in the story. The girls go to sleep and the coughing girl rubs her eyes and sees a slimy-looking guy. It&apos;s &lt;i&gt;death&lt;/i&gt;, come to take his own. And then in the morning she&apos;s dead.

It&apos;s heavy-handed, badly shot, ugly, and totally mis-cast. If you want to tell a story about little girls, use little girls. The &quot;theme&quot; is hammered home brutally and awkwardly that when it actually happens you&apos;re just sort of left with a &quot;that was it?&quot; kind of feeling. It doesn&apos;t even have a kitchy feeling, if that&apos;s what they were going for. I dunno, I don&apos;t get it.

If someone can explain why this rates as &lt;i&gt;[this is good]&lt;/i&gt;, I&apos;d love to hear it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2004 19:34:17 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Hildegarde</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: kenko</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37965/Rub#801672</link>	
		<description>Hildegarde, the coughing girl was the one who saw someone when she rubbed her eyes.

If someone can explain why you&apos;re so exercised by the use of adult women to portray girls, I&apos;d love to hear why.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2004 19:38:53 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>kenko</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: quonsar</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37965/Rub#801679</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;If someone can explain why this rates as [this is good], I&apos;d love to hear it.&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/37965#801639&quot;&gt;lather, rinse, repeat&lt;/a&gt;.
poor baby. didn&apos;t wike da widdle movie.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2004 19:53:08 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>quonsar</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Hildegarde</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37965/Rub#801684</link>	
		<description>Oh well. Hey, I tried. :)</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2004 20:06:21 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Hildegarde</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: emanation</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37965/Rub#801687</link>	
		<description>Hildegarde, most of those sick &quot;people with bad makeup&quot; (and the bad, smeared makeup effectively made them look sickly, don&apos;t you think?) were unsuccessful at playing a clueless game of a romantic living fate (the boy was a ploy perhaps detracting from the real man of destiny).  The nurse was trying to dissuade them by saying they&apos;d go blind and they instead should get more sleep.  Ah, but they were already blind, weren&apos;t they?  They figured the destiny was about romance or marriage, -- well, except for the one who defied authority, refused sleep, and was able to rub her eyes until she saw the &quot;light,&quot; gaining a vision of her true final destiny (open to interpretation).

Then again, maybe it&apos;s just about death -- in which case, Hildegarde, I don&apos;t know if you&apos;d call this good, but I guess if you&apos;re dying of consumption, being able to conjure up a kiss of death from a mysterious man, slimy-looking though he may be, might be preferable to the Grim Reaper&apos;s scythe.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2004 20:13:39 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>emanation</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: dong_resin</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37965/Rub#801759</link>	
		<description>Thumbs up.
So to speak.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 02:29:17 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>dong_resin</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: kamylyon</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37965/Rub#801773</link>	
		<description>All in all it wasn&apos;t worthy of an Oscar, but the silent film era produced many that were at least as bad, if not worse.

That being said; [this is good]

*rubs her eyes and sees...*</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 04:17:03 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>kamylyon</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Enron Hubbard</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37965/Rub#801779</link>	
		<description>*Rubs eyes and sees*...quonsar????

Aaaaahhhhhhh!!!!!!</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 04:42:01 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Enron Hubbard</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: bendybendy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37965/Rub#801798</link>	
		<description>Um. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/Stage/9467/gothtalk.jpg&quot;&gt;GothTalk&lt;/a&gt; meets &lt;a href=&quot;http://imdb.com/name/nm0534665/&quot;&gt;Guy Madden&lt;/a&gt;.  I could forgive the DIY production values if the acting was just a bit better- I just couldn&apos;t suspend my disbelief. These Edwardians looked like they had to take out their eyebrow rings to get the kohl on.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 05:51:25 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>bendybendy</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: kavasa</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37965/Rub#802020</link>	
		<description>Boy was that over-acted!  Not as bad as that metro-whatzit movie, done by that guy - Schlitz Kang or something?  It sucked anyways.

(thanks for posting the link, would have been a shame to have missed this)</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 11:37:04 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>kavasa</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: ikkyu2</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37965/Rub#805062</link>	
		<description>Haha, I liked it.  It captured the feel of the old silents - overacting was just how they did it back then.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:14:28 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ikkyu2</dc:creator>
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