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	<title>Comments on: ten-gallon-hat leadership style?</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 08:14:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>ten-gallon-hat leadership style?</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.time.com/time/personoftheyear/2004/story.html"&gt;Person of the Year.&lt;/a&gt; TIME magazine reveals their pick. Is anyone surprised?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 08:13:26 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>wfrgms</dc:creator>		<category>time</category>		<category>personoftheyear</category>		<category>bush</category>		<category>magazines</category>		<category>media</category>
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		<title>By: modernsquid</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#801832</link>	
		<description>(puke)</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 08:14:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Pretty_Generic</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#801834</link>	
		<description>Interesting question: if you had the opportunity without the risk, would you kill this man? Personally, I can&apos;t decide.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 08:18:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Balisong</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#801836</link>	
		<description>How about a very long coma?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 08:24:33 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Balisong</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: trey</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#801838</link>	
		<description>Other unpopular picks: Hitler, Stalin, and Khomeini.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 08:25:23 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: digaman</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#801839</link>	
		<description>   Eagles rather than doves nestle in the Oval Office Christmas tree, 
  pinecones the size of footballs are piled around the fireplace, and the 
  President of the United States is pretty close to lounging in Armchair 
  One. He&apos;s wearing a blue pinstripe suit, and his shoes are shined bright 
  enough to shave in. He is loose, lively, framing a point with his hands 
 or 
  gently across the room.
  
   &quot;I&apos;ve had a lot going on, so I haven&apos;t been in a very reflective mood,&quot; 
  says the man who has just replaced half his Cabinet, dispatched 12,000 
  more troops into battle, arm wrestled lawmakers over an intelligence 
 bill, 
  held his third economic summit and begun to lay the second-term paving 
  stones on which he will walk off into history. Asked about his 
  re-election, he replies, &quot;I think over the Christmas holidays it&apos;ll all 
  sink in.&quot;

 ----
 
 Man of the Year,  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.time.com/time/personoftheyear/archive/covers/1939.html &quot;&gt;1939&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=http://www.time.com/time/personoftheyear/archive/covers/1942.html&quot; &quot;&gt;1942&lt;/a&gt;:
 
Joseph Stalin
 
 
 Man of the Year, &lt;a href=http://www.time.com/time/personoftheyear/archive/covers/1938.html&quot; &quot;&gt;1938&lt;/a&gt;:

 Adolf Hitler</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 08:25:46 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: XQUZYPHYR</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#801842</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;TIME magazine reveals their pick. Is anyone surprised?&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/37011#770223&quot;&gt;Not really.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 08:27:29 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dabitch</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#801844</link>	
		<description>Not at all. Been ripping up my &quot;last time to renew&quot; subscription reminders for several months already. I think they have finally given up. ;)</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 08:30:22 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: coldon</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#801847</link>	
		<description>I can&apos;t quite get through that article... I keep getting distracted by the sound of the four horsemen riding down the street outside.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 08:32:21 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dabitch</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#801850</link>	
		<description>I&apos;ll recycle my old comment: XQUZYPHYR nailed it in 1!</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 08:33:32 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: moonbird</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#801851</link>	
		<description>coldon: nothing like stepping in apocalyptic horseshit!</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 08:35:00 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: gt16</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#801852</link>	
		<description>a slightly more popular choice might have been Saddam or perhaps even Milosevic.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 08:36:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: digaman</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#801854</link>	
		<description>Or perhaps the founder of Diebold.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 08:39:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: angry modem</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#801857</link>	
		<description>How the hell did I miss a thread with nothing but stomping on bloggers?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 08:40:46 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Krrrlson</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#801859</link>	
		<description>Well let&apos;s see... who&apos;s the person that&apos;s come up the most in Metafilter discussions (besides quonsar, of course)?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 08:43:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Krrrlson</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#801860</link>	
		<description>most often, that is.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 08:44:24 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: pyramid termite</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#801863</link>	
		<description>(yawn)</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 08:48:57 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: seawallrunner</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#801865</link>	
		<description>George W Bush.  Man of The Year, according to a US publication. How surprising. Not.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 08:49:55 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mokey</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#801866</link>	
		<description>i am shocked, stunned, saddened and &lt;s&gt;horny&lt;/s&gt; confused. what does &quot;person of the year&quot; mean anyway? is it short for &quot;most reprehensible/least worthy person of the year&quot;?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 08:50:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Eideteker</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#801867</link>	
		<description>Dear &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.time.com/time/personoftheyear/2004/story.html#&quot;&gt;NANCY GIBBS and JOHN F. DICKERSON&lt;/a&gt;:

I know it&apos;s insane, but how does his taint &lt;i&gt;taste&lt;/i&gt;?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 08:50:45 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: orange swan</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#801871</link>	
		<description>Isn&apos;t &lt;i&gt;Time&lt;/i&gt;&apos;s criteria something along the lines of &quot;person who has had the most impact&quot; rather than &quot;person who has done the most good&quot;? Because if it&apos;s the former, then yes, there&apos;s a strong argument to be made for choosing Shrub.

Of course, he&apos;ll take this as validation for what he&apos;s doing.. but that&apos;s another argument.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 08:55:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: digaman</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#801873</link>	
		<description>Swan, Bush has had as much &quot;impact&quot; as Ronald McDonald has had on eating patterns in America.  He&apos;s the public face, the spokesmodel, not the architect.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 08:59:49 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: TimeFactor</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#801880</link>	
		<description>Coincidentally, Modern Primate Magazine has picked Bush as Chimpanzee of the Year.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 09:06:15 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>TimeFactor</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: XQUZYPHYR</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#801889</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Well let&apos;s see... who&apos;s the person that&apos;s come up the most in Metafilter discussions&lt;/i&gt;

&quot;Turds!  You make them every day.  They&apos;re the most likely thing to come up in your toilet.  Therefore, TIME is proud to declare poop as excrement of the year!&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 09:14:05 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Luciferous</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#801890</link>	
		<description>I heard the Time thing on the radio this morning, and immediately felt a little depressed.  I&apos;d kind of forgotten about the mess we&apos;re in -- and the person(s) responsible -- mostly because I&apos;ve been working 60 hours a week for the last two months.  (Which is depressing enough, thank you very much.)

Thinking about the aforementioned mess invariably leaves me a little confused.  The question that always ends up running through my head is, &quot;Am I that out of touch with the way most people think?&quot;  Like my co-worker who still has the Bush vs. Kerry national &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theaustinpost.com/vote_map1.gif&quot;&gt;county map&lt;/a&gt; posted on his cube wall with the 36-point caption, &quot;This is Bush Country&quot;... even after I&apos;ve tried to have the population density talk with him.  He seems to be of the mind that &quot;more square miles&quot; = &quot;stronger mandate&quot;, actual vote totals notwithstanding.

*sigh*</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 09:14:39 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: three blind mice</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#801896</link>	
		<description>you are correct orange swan and on that basis time&apos;s man of the year 2001 s&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.snopes.com/rumors/manyear.htm&quot;&gt;hould have been osama bin laden&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 09:24:56 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: fingers_of_fire</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#801904</link>	
		<description>I think there is a strong case to be made for GWB as person of the year. The election was &lt;i&gt;the&lt;/i&gt; news story of the year, it was a referendum on the current administration (not to mention a telling demonstration of just how deeply flawed the American political system is). Republican-bred chickens will be coming home to roost for years to come, and Georgie-boy is the face of the whole thing. Singling out one individual as the &quot;most important&quot; for any given year is a silly practice however you slice it, but I can&apos;t deny the logic behind their choice.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 09:34:07 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jefbla</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#801907</link>	
		<description>What fingers_of_fire said.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 09:41:50 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: justgary</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#801912</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;not to mention a telling demonstration of just how deeply flawed the American political system is&lt;/em&gt;

The American political system has always been flawed. The fact that a president was elected who most on metafilter gave no chance to win and who is vilified by 90 percent of its members leads to hyperbole such as yours, but doesn&apos;t mean it&apos;s any more flawed than it has ever been.

Bush should be time person of the year, no matter if you love him or hate him. And be greatful, because although this post couldn&apos;t be further from best of the web it does allow us all to pretend we&apos;re in an irc kiddizz chatroom.
&lt;em&gt;
 (puke)&lt;/em&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 09:47:41 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: semmi</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#801926</link>	
		<description>Meatafilter: The constant smell of somebody&apos;s vomit.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 09:58:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: digaman</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#801939</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;doesn&apos;t mean it&apos;s any more flawed than it has ever been.&lt;/i&gt;

It&apos;s a good idea not to be hysterical and needlessly apocalyptic, but not a good idea to be myopic, pollyannic, and ignorant of history.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 10:10:19 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: coelecanth</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#801953</link>	
		<description>XQUZYPHYR, if Time were naming an Excrement of the Year, they would pretty much have to choose poop, wouldn&apos;t they? Year after year after year...</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 10:20:57 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: fandango_matt</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#801968</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;if Time were naming an Excrement of the Year, they would pretty much have to choose poop, wouldn&apos;t they? Year after year after year...&lt;/i&gt;

I&apos;m certain Dick Cheney would have won at some point.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 10:36:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: quonsar</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#801975</link>	
		<description>every year there are multiple posts on time&apos;s dickface of the year, and every year people express shock and outrage over the choice because people project their own erroneous conception of honor on the designation which has nothing whatsoever to do with honor. see ya next year.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 10:46:15 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: gompa</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#801977</link>	
		<description>It&apos;s funny about &lt;em&gt;Time&lt;/em&gt;: even people who find its content kinda trite and obvious, even people who don&apos;t read it because it&apos;s so relentlessly glib and superficial - even these people will get worked up about whatever &lt;em&gt;Time&lt;/em&gt; is affixing with its official seal. 

I say this as someone who spent a year or so working for the Canadian edition of &lt;em&gt;Time&lt;/em&gt; in a &quot;writing&quot; role that included helping to assemble assorted lists of the X Most Important Ys and such, which invariably consisted of hunting out the most easily justifiable choices, adding maybe one or two unconventional ones, and then tossing in a photogenic woman or something for balance if there wasn&apos;t already one on whichever list we were making. My editor once described the overall tone of Time as &quot;sustained obviousness,&quot; and he was at most half-joking. 

Time&apos;s job in selecting a Person of the Year, then, is to come up with a pick that the maximum number of people will, upon seeing the cover on the newsstand, think: &quot;Well, I guess that makes sense.&quot; It is the official arbiter of the middle of the road, nothing more. Even the magazine&apos;s staff knows this. 

So then: you&apos;ll know the apocalypse is upon us not when Dubya is dubbed Person of the Year but when you see a Time cover that reads &quot;The Four Horsemen: Up Close and Personal With America&apos;s Favorite Harbingers Of Apocalypse.&quot; And by then it&apos;ll be &lt;em&gt;way&lt;/em&gt; too late.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 10:46:36 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: quonsar</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#801984</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Time&apos;s job in selecting a Person of the Year, then, is to come up with a pick that the maximum number of people will, upon seeing the cover on the newsstand, think: &quot;Well, I guess that makes sense.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

see? even people who have worked there project their own idea of what it is, rather than what time says it is.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 10:50:00 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: gompa</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#801992</link>	
		<description>Hey, quonsar, you seem to have an intuitive grasp of this whole sustained-obviousness concept. You want an assignment putting together Time&apos;s list of The Web&apos;s 50 Cleverest Smart-Asses?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 10:59:32 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Savannah</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#801994</link>	
		<description>I was very disappointed that Time did not pick Osama Bin Laden as Man/Woman/Thing of the Year in 2001. It was cowardly.

It&apos;s not supposed to be who is the best or most noble person of the year; it&apos;s who has &lt;em&gt;impacted&lt;/em&gt; events most in the past year. I nearly cancelled my subscription because they lacked the courage to pick the real newsmaker in 2001.

However, I do agree that for 2004, it was Bush. Love him or hate him, he has affected the globe.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 11:05:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Bugbread</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#801995</link>	
		<description>Ditto with Savannah and others.  Osama bin Laden should have had 2001, and Bush makes sense for 2004.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 11:06:39 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: quonsar</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#801998</link>	
		<description>gompa, that you thought i was being a smartass perfectly illustrates my point.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 11:08:37 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: digaman</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#802002</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;sustained obviousness&lt;/i&gt;

That&apos;s hilarious, gompa.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 11:13:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: gompa</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#802004</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;gompa, that you thought i was being a smartass perfectly illustrates my point.&lt;/em&gt;

Touche. 

Actually, I &lt;em&gt;knew&lt;/em&gt; you were being a smart-ass, even though it was a valid point.

&lt;em&gt;My&lt;/em&gt; point, though, was that not even &lt;em&gt;Time&lt;/em&gt; thinks the Person of the Year is what it pretends to be (i.e. some kinda quasi-scientific determination of the individual whose impact has been verifiably the greatest in the past calendar year).</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 11:16:58 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Armitage Shanks</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#802012</link>	
		<description>Drudge Report &lt;a href=&quot;http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20041217/i/r2747696618.jpg&quot;&gt;image&lt;/a&gt; suitable for photoshopping.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 11:26:29 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: thendisc</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#802014</link>	
		<description>There&apos;s even a &lt;a href=&quot;http://store.northshoreshirts.com/idofyet.html&quot;&gt;t-shirt&lt;/a&gt; now.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 11:30:24 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: specialk420</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#802034</link>	
		<description>the cover is perfect asswipe.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 11:57:41 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ed</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#802036</link>	
		<description>Here&apos;s a list of &lt;i&gt;Time&lt;/i&gt;&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://history1900s.about.com/library/weekly/aa050400a.htm&quot;&gt;Persons of the Year&lt;/a&gt;.  A few interesting things:

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Only three women have been explictily cited over 77 years.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;FDR was named three times.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;With the exception of Gerald Ford, every U.S. President in office has been named since 1932.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Named twice:  Joseph Stalin, Harry Truman, Winston Churchill, Lyndon B. Johnson, Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, Mikhail Gorbachev, Bill Clinton, George W. Bush.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 11:58:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: 327.ca</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#802044</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2004/12/19/time-newsmaker041219.html&quot;&gt;Maher Arar&lt;/a&gt; has been chosen as the Canadian newsmaker of the year. Kind of an interesting juxtaposition with Bush.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 12:13:09 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sparx</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#802051</link>	
		<description>In a close competition, &lt;strong&gt;pollyannic&lt;/strong&gt; has come through as Adjective of the Year, just edging out strong contender &apos;myopic&apos; and  rank outsider &apos;ignorant&apos;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 12:27:24 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: matteo</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#802075</link>	
		<description>boring magazine, &quot;safe&quot; boring choice for an irrelevant &quot;award&quot;.
and as others have said already, the laughable lack of balls of Time&apos;s editors in 2001 (when the world&apos;s main newsmaker was of course Bin Laden, even schoolchildren had realized that) really turns their POTY cover into a sad joke

much better: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.viiphoto.com/gallery-by.php?author=Christopher%20Morris&quot;&gt;Chris&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.time.com/time/photoessays/iraq2003/morris/contact.html&quot;&gt;Morris&lt;/a&gt;&apos; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.time.com/time/personoftheyear/2004/photoessay/&quot;&gt;photo essay&lt;/a&gt;. definitely he &lt;a href=&quot;http://digitaljournalist.org/issue0104/morris_index.htm&quot;&gt;is&lt;/a&gt; one of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://digitaljournalist.org/issue0104/morris_index.htm&quot;&gt;best&lt;/a&gt; (warning: graphic, heartbreaking images in the last link)</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 13:31:30 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: matteo</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#802076</link>	
		<description>graphic images in the &quot;is&quot; kink too, sorry, bad typing</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 13:32:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: matteo</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#802077</link>	
		<description>&quot;is&quot; &lt;strong&gt;link&lt;/strong&gt;, not &quot;kink&quot;, damn
&lt;small&gt;OK, I&apos;m going. bye.&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 13:33:42 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dancingbaptist</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#802120</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://images.google.com/images?q=tin-foil+hat&amp;hl=en&amp;btnG=Google+Search&quot;&gt;MeFite nominees of the year&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 14:50:13 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kempt</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#802126</link>	
		<description>I really am surprised. I thought that maybe people would start to realize all the smoke and mirrors that the US government uses to improve the US at the cost of other countries. A Good read on this is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0805075593/qid=1103497192/sr=8-2/ref=pd_csp_2/104-5636254-2798312?v=glance&amp;s=books&amp;n=507846&quot;&gt;Blowback &lt;/a&gt; by Chalmers Johnson.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 15:01:23 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: fingers_of_fire</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#802146</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt; The American political system has always been flawed. The fact that a president was elected who most on metafilter gave no chance to win and who is vilified by 90 percent of its members leads to hyperbole such as yours, but doesn&apos;t mean it&apos;s any more flawed than it has ever been.&lt;/i&gt;

justgary, I certainly didn&apos;t mean to engage in hyperbole. It is true that I don&apos;t support George Bush as President, but that&apos;s not why I think his election is a demonstration of the fallibility of our political system. The fact that the race hinged on cooked-up perceptions about the other candidate - and how low people were willing to stoop in order to create those perceptions - THAT is what was so God-awful about this election, in my opinion. I agree with you that it&apos;s nothing new to try to paint your opponent as all-things-evil, but in my experience and opinion it seems to have sunk to a new low - I&apos;m thinking of, in particular, the Swift Boat Veterans and the War on Terror in general, which I don&apos;t particularly believe in. 
Maybe after I live through a few more election cycles all of this will become S.O.P.

My fear, though, is that we are losing the ability to engage in discourse - in today&apos;s political climate, people who disagree with you are not simply wrong, they are DANGEROUS. This kind of thinking leads to a very dark place, and I think it is very sad to see our country going there. I can live with a President I didn&apos;t vote for. I have a much more difficult time living with the way he got there.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 15:42:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: specialk420</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#802159</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;a very dark place&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.commondreams.org/scottie.htm&quot;&gt;indeed.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 16:04:56 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: effugas</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#802171</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;
Interesting question: if you had the opportunity without the risk, would you kill this man? Personally, I can&apos;t decide.&lt;/i&gt;

No.  Not because it wouldn&apos;t sufficiently discredit him (though it wouldn&apos;t.)  Not because he&apos;s not in charge (because I think, to some extent, he is, though he&apos;s got an astonishing amount of the elite behind him).  Not because I wouldn&apos;t want to see assassination become a more prevalent strategy in political life (I&apos;ve always wondered why it isn&apos;t).  I wouldn&apos;t because it&apos;s wrong -- there is some honor due the office, some due the nation, some due a mere life, and simply killing the guy doesn&apos;t qualify.

I &lt;b&gt;was&lt;/b&gt; afraid someone might try, though, completing his apotheosis into the anti-Kennedy.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 16:14:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: MarkO</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#802185</link>	
		<description>This second Bush presidency will determine whether the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.snopes.com/history/american/curse.asp&quot;&gt;Curse of Tecumseh&lt;/a&gt; will continue or was broken by Reagan.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 16:39:42 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: MarkO</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#802201</link>	
		<description>Oh, and has anyone noticed that in 56 comments, nobody has said anything even remotely &lt;em&gt;nice &lt;/em&gt;about the man? What gives?

Here: Bush can run &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/fitness/&quot;&gt;3 miles&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mdw.army.mil/images/photo_gallery/President_Bush/Preview/Finish.html&quot;&gt;in under&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.runnersworld.com/footnotes/gwbush/20questions.html&quot;&gt;21 minutes&lt;/a&gt;. I can&apos;t do that and I&apos;m less than half his age.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 16:52:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: b_thinky</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#802209</link>	
		<description>I think Time made the right call on this one. 2004 was all about the election. Whoever won the election should have been Person of the Year. 

Bush&apos;s win was pretty slim, but it was comfortable and out of legitimate dispute. If anyone read the Newsweek special issue after the election - the one that had in-depth coverage of both campaigns - you&apos;d have to give credit to Bush for running a much better campaign than Kerry. 

Forgetting about the 527s, the Bush camp was able to able to jump all over every mistake Kerry made, while Kerry couldn&apos;t manage the infighting of his team. 

Now that we&apos;re not caught up in the mid-election drama, I think we can all look back and realize that Kerry sucked pretty bad as a candidtate. This doesn&apos;t make Bush suck any less, but we have to face it: the Democratic candidate lost because he was less likeable and more boring than the Republican candidate.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 17:00:49 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: exlotuseater</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#802237</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Oh, and has anyone noticed that in 56 comments, nobody has said anything even remotely nice about the man? What gives?

posted by MarkO at 7:52 PM EST on December 19 &lt;/i&gt;

Now &lt;i&gt;that&apos;s&lt;/i&gt; funny.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 17:42:09 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: justgary</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#802245</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;but not a good idea to be myopic, pollyannic, and ignorant of history.&lt;/em&gt;

Ignorant of history? If you think our democratic system was perfect in the past you might want to look in the mirror. 

&lt;em&gt;in today&apos;s political climate, people who disagree with you are not simply wrong, they are DANGEROUS. &lt;/em&gt;

I couldn&apos;t agree more with you, but it&apos;s happening on both sides. Political discussion is a thing of the past, and its never been a part of metafilter. I don&apos;t see an end.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 17:54:57 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: UbuRoivas</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#802255</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;I think Time made the right call on this one. 2004 was all about the election. Whoever won the election should have been Person of the Year.&lt;/em&gt;

In the context of the War of Error that holds true, but to suggest that every US election winner should automatically be person-of-the-year smacks just a little of self-centredness.

Apart from that, yeh...Osama should have taken 2001, except that would have made the the Ministry of Freedom&apos;s *ref: unperson* process more complex than necessary.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 18:23:55 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: UbuRoivas</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#802257</link>	
		<description>&lt;small&gt;(note: Ministry of Freedom = MiniFree, in case anybody was confused)&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 18:28:03 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: pyramid termite</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#802280</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Bush can run 3 miles in under 21 minutes.&lt;/i&gt;

and still be lost</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 19:21:58 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: craven_morhead</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#802301</link>	
		<description>I hear Canada&apos;s nice this time of year...


...compared to the US, that is.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 19:54:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: b_thinky</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#802405</link>	
		<description>UbuRoivas: Last I checked Time was an American publication. So I don&apos;t think it&apos;s self-centered to name an American as &quot;Person of the Year.&quot; Most Time readers reside in America and are probably most interested in reading about important Americans.

Besides that, America does play kind of a big role in the world, and Bush is the president.  

Osama as Person of the Year? Wouldn&apos;t that be suicide for Time as a publication? Here&apos;s the guy who murders 3000 Americans and two months later let&apos;s name him Man of the Year! I&apos;m sure we&apos;d all go out and buy that issue and nobody would dare boycott any sponsors. 

Person of the Year may be about as stupid as People&apos;s 50 Most Beautiful list. Some of those people are not even attractive.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Dec 2004 00:38:03 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: stavrosthewonderchicken</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#802407</link>	
		<description>Some random dead Iraqi child rotting in a rubble-strewn street -- that should have been Time&apos;s person of the year. Or at least, you know, co-person with Mr Bush.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Dec 2004 00:47:36 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Infinite Jest</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#802416</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt; Some random dead Iraqi child rotting in a rubble-strewn street&lt;/em&gt;

That guy from Abu Ghraib, maybe? Seeing those pictures, and (maybe more importantly) seeing how so many Americans rushed to defend what was going on there, had a hell of an impact on me and on how I felt about the US. And I doubt I&apos;m alone in that. 

That said, I think Bush is the logical choice. He won one of the most important elections of recent years in the most powerful nation in the world. That should probably count for something. 

Osama should have won in 2001, though.  (Given that, as others have said - Person of the Year is the person who had the most influence on the year, not a mark of approval). But &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/37970#802405&quot;&gt;b_thinky&lt;/a&gt; is right that it would have been a major blow to Time if they&apos;d awarded it to him.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Dec 2004 01:30:09 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: longbaugh</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#802437</link>	
		<description>Maybe I am dull and lazy but if the average adult male can walk at 5 or 6mph then surely doing 3 miles in 21 minutes is probably closer to &quot;moderately vigorous perambulation&quot; than &quot;running&quot;.

Possibly a quick stroll.

GWB can be Man of the Year and it makes sod all difference - I have a copy of the Encyclopedia Galactica that fell through a wormhole in time from the future and apparently he and his merry band of fuckwits were the first up against the walls when the revolution came.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Dec 2004 04:43:04 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: stavrosthewonderchicken</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#802440</link>	
		<description>Along with those idiots from the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Dec 2004 04:57:22 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: alumshubby</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#802444</link>	
		<description>As the old &lt;em&gt;National Lampoon&lt;/em&gt; poster said...Eat shit.  Fifty billion flies can&apos;t be wrong.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Dec 2004 05:10:35 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Secret Life of Gravy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#802480</link>	
		<description>The more I read about Texas and Texas politics, the more disgusted I get.  Forget about kicking The South out-- I say we build a great big wall around Texas and its bloated, Fat Cat Millionaire-worshipping, gun-toting, fundamentalist, environmentally unfriendly politicians who believe in tax relief over any other agenda.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Dec 2004 07:08:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kleptophoria!</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#802510</link>	
		<description>Amusingly enough, I stopped renewing my subscription to Time after they failed to hand the award to Osama.  Did they give it to the NYC mayor instead, or somebody like that?  Rudy, Bush, etc, were involved in  9/11 by accident.  Osama had been working so hard for &quot;Person of the Year&quot; for quite a while.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Dec 2004 08:11:35 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: weston</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#802585</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Maybe I am dull and lazy but if the average adult male can walk at 5 or 6mph then surely doing 3 miles in 21 minutes is probably closer to &quot;moderately vigorous perambulation&quot; than &quot;running&quot;.&lt;/i&gt;

Three seven minute miles is not an amazing achievement, but I think you&apos;d find that the average runner in a community 5K doesn&apos;t actually make it quicker than 21 minutes. Even as a jogger in my 20s in decent shape, I never did.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Dec 2004 09:11:02 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mrgrimm</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#802673</link>	
		<description>huh. i thought it was a joke when i first saw it. 

&lt;i&gt;Maybe I am dull and lazy but if the average adult male can walk at 5 or 6mph then surely doing 3 miles in 21 minutes is probably closer to &quot;moderately vigorous perambulation&quot; than &quot;running&quot;.&lt;/i&gt;

i didn&apos;t see any claims to 3 miles in 21 minutes in those links, but i also agree with weston. it&apos;s nothing spectacular, but i&apos;d bet less than 5% of the US could do it. vigorous walking is about 4 mph. most people don&apos;t walk nearly that fast.

at my 18-year-old best (i am not a great runner), i could run 2 miles in 12 minutes, but that was pushing my limit.

this is still a joke, right? that&apos;s why i&apos;m talking about how fast he can run? (where&apos;s Peter Funt?)  a poorly educated, sometimes incomprehensible embarrassment of a politician is the person of the year because he&apos;s moderately athletic? wonderful.

&lt;i&gt; Oh, and has anyone noticed that in 56 comments, nobody has said anything even remotely nice about the man? What gives?&lt;/i&gt;

i&apos;ll try: perhaps his illegal and immoral war in Iraq wasn&apos;t the product of pure self-interest and cronyism, but rather a stupid mistake by a well-intentioned but unintelligent and incompetent politician with very little experience and an underdeveloped valuation of life and our planet.

stop supporting corporate news media.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Dec 2004 10:28:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: MarkO</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#802692</link>	
		<description>According to Google,

6mph will get you &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;lr=&amp;q=%286%2F60%29*21+%3D&amp;btnG=Search&quot;&gt;2.1 miles&lt;/a&gt; in 21 minutes.

To go 3 miles in that time, you would have to go &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;lr=&amp;q=3%2F21+*+60+%3D&amp;btnG=Search&quot;&gt;8.6 mph&lt;/a&gt;, which is a hard run, and even harder to keep up for so long.

But besides that, I have one more nice thing to say about Bush: people who &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/3226106.stm&quot;&gt;meet &lt;/a&gt;him tend to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/choice2000/bush/matalin.html&quot;&gt;like&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3b2a38f75688.htm#4&quot;&gt;him&lt;/a&gt;--he is very &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dailyprincetonian.com/archives/2003/12/02/opinion/9248.shtml&quot;&gt;charismatic&lt;/a&gt;. And I like how he &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/0703/p02s02-uspo.htm&quot;&gt;deflects criticism&lt;/a&gt; so well, and even turns it into an advantage. Okay, two things.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Dec 2004 10:42:50 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: MarkO</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#802704</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;i didn&apos;t see any claims to 3 miles in 21 minutes in those links&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.runnersworld.com/footnotes/gwbush/20questions.html&quot;&gt;Scroll down&lt;/a&gt;

Also, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2002-08-06-bush-health_x.htm&quot;&gt;Top 1%&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Dec 2004 10:48:09 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: longbaugh</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#802779</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;6mph will get you 2.1 miles in 21 minutes.
To go 3 miles in that time, you would have to go 8.6 mph, which is a hard run, and even harder to keep up for so long.&lt;/em&gt;

I used to do 2.5 miles in 10.5 minutes in combat boots but then I didn&apos;t duck out of fitreps to go snort coke.

&lt;em&gt;And I like how he deflects criticism so well, and even turns it into an advantage. Okay, two things.&lt;/em&gt;

Some might say that his inability to accept feedback or accept that he is in error is a failure and not overly endearing.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Dec 2004 11:42:29 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: strangeleftydoublethink</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#802851</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m really surprised Stalin did not get his third POTY award.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Dec 2004 12:27:50 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: drscroogemcduck</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#804716</link>	
		<description>longbaugh:

wow thats pretty fast. i&apos;d put WR pace (if they ran it) around 9.8 minutes.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2004 05:20:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: amberglow</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#804731</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.reachm.com/amstreet/archives/2004/12/19/fafblogs-man-of-the-year-2004/&quot;&gt;2004 was the year of a head of cabbage! Its bold decisive leadership affected everything from the war in Iraq to the can-do inertia of the presidential election.&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;i&gt;
A head of cabbage always offered us steady leadership in times of change. When we wonder &quot;what&apos;s goin on in this crazy world I do not understand&quot; there&apos;s a head a cabbage bein a head a cabbage! Its reassuring vegetableness, its green leafiness, the way it looked natural on a farm, spoke to our deep cabbagey values. And it knew how to stick to its guns! When its critics complained that it was a bad cabbage or that it had food poisoning or that it had pointlessly launched the military into a nightmarish, unjustified quagmire, it knew just what to do: keep sittin there bein a cabbage. &lt;/i&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2004 05:55:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kleptophoria!</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37970/tengallonhat-leadership-style#805190</link>	
		<description>Amen amberglow, amen.  I almost LOLed there.  Oh that cabbage!</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:35:00 -0800</pubDate>
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