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	<title>Comments on: Woman in the Moon</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 14:41:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Woman in the Moon</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.sensesofcinema.com/contents/directors/02/lang.html"&gt;Fritz Lang&apos;s&lt;/a&gt; last silent film, &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sensesofcinema.com/contents/cteq/04/woman_in_the_moon.html&quot;&gt;Woman in the Moon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;, has just been released by &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kino.com/video/item.php?film_id=728&quot;&gt;Kino Video &lt;/a&gt;in a lovingly restored and remastered edition, expanded to its original running time of 169 minutes. (Prior releases of the film in the US had as much as half of the original footage removed, with altered title cards that completely changed the storyline.) &lt;em&gt;Woman in the Moon&lt;/em&gt; is considered to be &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rocketshipvideo.com/reviews/womaninthemoon.html&quot;&gt;the first real attempt to depict a flight to the moon in film&lt;/a&gt; that &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.moma.org/collection/depts/film_media/blowups/film_media_002.html&quot;&gt;wasn&apos;t completely fantastic&lt;/a&gt;, thanks to the technical input of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kiosek.com/oberth/&quot;&gt;Hermann Oberth&lt;/a&gt;, who later went on play a key role in the development of the German &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3634212.stm&quot;&gt;V-2 rocket.&lt;/a&gt; As a piece of futurism, &lt;em&gt;Woman in the Moon&lt;/em&gt; gets a few things wrong (the Moon of the film has a breathable atmosphere, for one thing), but it&apos;s also surprisingly prescient as well (the rocketship that voyages to the moon has multiple stages). Its most significant contribution to popular culture is the reverse countdown to blastoff, which was invented by the filmmakers as a dramatic device.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 14:36:17 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Prospero</dc:creator>		<category>fritzlang</category>		<category>womaninthemoon</category>		<category>kino</category>		<category>restored</category>		<category>remastered</category>		<category>hermannoberth</category>		<category>v2</category>		<category>futurism</category>		<category>film</category>
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		<title>By: dancingbaptist</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37981/Woman-in-the-Moon#802114</link>	
		<description>I like the clothes-iron looking lunar lander.
I heard all the hot women are on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sherylfranklin.com/trekwomen_vina.html&quot;&gt;Orion&lt;/a&gt;, though.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 14:41:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: interrobang</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37981/Woman-in-the-Moon#802119</link>	
		<description>This is cool; I&apos;ll have to see if I can rent a copy.  Thanks.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 14:46:39 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Bugbread</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37981/Woman-in-the-Moon#802122</link>	
		<description>A pretty detailed (read: spoilerific) rundown of the movie on Jabootu lately: &lt;a href=&quot;http://jabootu.com/vcnov04.htm&quot;&gt;scroll about 3/4 of the way down&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 14:51:37 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: octothorpe</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37981/Woman-in-the-Moon#802128</link>	
		<description>The Kino edition of Metropolis is amazing, it&apos;s really a totally different movie than short, grainy, flickery version I&apos;d seen on PBS.  I&apos;m hoping that they did as good a job with &quot;Frau im Mond&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 15:07:21 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: muckster</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37981/Woman-in-the-Moon#802141</link>	
		<description>For an in-depth conversation and career retrospective with Lang, check out Peter Bogdanovich&apos;s &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kokogiak.com/amazon4/details.asp?SearchIndex=Books&amp;Keywords=bogdanovich&amp;Asin=0345404572&quot;&gt;Who the Devil Made It&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;. The countdown anecdote is very amusing-- &quot;if I count upwards, nobody will know when the rocket is supposed to go off!&quot;

Thanks, Prospero. I believe we share the same &lt;a href=&quot;http://linguistix.com/pynchon/&quot;&gt;V2 fetish&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 15:22:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Prospero</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37981/Woman-in-the-Moon#802151</link>	
		<description>octothorpe: I have the Kino Fritz Lang box set that includes &lt;em&gt;Die Nibelungen&lt;/em&gt;, &lt;em&gt;Metropolis&lt;/em&gt;, &lt;em&gt;Spies&lt;/em&gt;, and &lt;em&gt;Woman in the Moon&lt;/em&gt;. Though none of the other discs in the box are as tricked-out as the &lt;em&gt;Metropolis &lt;/em&gt; edition (there are no commentary tracks, and precious few extras), the films have been given the same careful restoration and expansion (&lt;em&gt;Die Nibelungen&lt;/em&gt; has 100 minutes of restored footage, and &lt;em&gt;Spies &lt;/em&gt;has something like 50). The extended &lt;em&gt;Spies &lt;/em&gt;still has some severe continuity flaws, but it&apos;s entertaining all the same. &lt;em&gt;Spies &lt;/em&gt;and &lt;em&gt;Woman in the &lt;/em&gt;Moon don&apos;t have the excellent Gottfried Huppertz musical scores of &lt;em&gt;Die Nibelungen &lt;/em&gt;and &lt;em&gt;Metropolis&lt;/em&gt;, but the new score for &lt;em&gt;Spies &lt;/em&gt;is decent, and the score for &lt;em&gt;Woman in the Moon &lt;/em&gt;(by &lt;a href=&quot;http://members.aol.com/ChaneyFan/whoami.htm&quot;&gt;Jon C. Mirsalis&lt;/a&gt;, who seems like an interesting guy) is quite beautiful.

muckster: I successfully resisted including a series of Pynchon links in the post, but not without difficulty.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 15:50:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: j.edwards</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37981/Woman-in-the-Moon#802227</link>	
		<description>Oh man, thanks for the link.  I&apos;ve seen &lt;i&gt;Woman in the Moon&lt;/i&gt; several times, but the transfers to VHS have been universally horrible.  I&apos;ll have to go get this.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 17:33:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mwhybark</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37981/Woman-in-the-Moon#802269</link>	
		<description>This film kicked my ass when I saw it about a year ago in a PRISTINE print as a part of the Paramount&apos;s Silent Movie Mondays. The rocket can be found as an excellent card model &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.currell.net/models/friede.htm&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 19:00:07 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mo Nickels</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37981/Woman-in-the-Moon#802880</link>	
		<description>On the BBC World Service this weekend I heard a fellow claiming that the countdown used by NASA and other space agencies is a direct borrowing from Lang. As he put it, (my words, his sentiments), &quot;Why would NASA have to have a launch countdown? They know exactly when it&apos;s going to happen. It&apos;s just added drama for observers.&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Dec 2004 12:44:35 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: alfredogarcia</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/37981/Woman-in-the-Moon#803162</link>	
		<description>cliche police:  it&apos;s weird how people always say &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/search?num=50&amp;hl=en&amp;lr=&amp;q=lovingly-restored&amp;btnG=Search&quot;&gt;&apos;lovingly&apos; restored.&lt;/a&gt; what, they bought it flowers?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:57:45 -0800</pubDate>
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