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	<title>Comments on: All I want for Christmas is a robot suit and unlimited power!</title>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2004 06:48:16 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>All I want for Christmas is a robot suit and unlimited power!</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/38058/All-I-want-for-Christmas-is-a-robot-suit-and-unlimited-power</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href="http://news.com.com/Giant+robots+in+the+backyard/2100-1026_3-5499730.html?tag=nl"&gt;Giant robots in the backyard.&lt;/a&gt; An ambitious young Alaskan is trying to create his own mecha suit. Be sure to look at the pictures. The GE Hardiman project only managed to have one working arm, here&apos;s hoping Owens has more luck with his robot suit.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2004 06:43:32 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>riffola</dc:creator>		<category>robot</category>		<category>hobby</category>
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		<title>By: monju_bosatsu</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/38058/All-I-want-for-Christmas-is-a-robot-suit-and-unlimited-power#804762</link>	
		<description>Where do these people--the guy in Louisiana with the giant hole, the guy building the Millenium Falcon, this guy, etc.--find the time to build stuff like this in their backyards?  Maybe if I repurpose the time I spend on MetaFilter...</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2004 06:48:16 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: runkelfinker</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/38058/All-I-want-for-Christmas-is-a-robot-suit-and-unlimited-power#804772</link>	
		<description>I&apos;ve got to say that these two (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wizkidsgames.com/mwdarkage/mw_article.asp?cid=36984&amp;frame=news&quot;&gt;one real&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.heavygauss.com/MUSEUM/backyard.jpg&quot;&gt;one fake&lt;/a&gt;) are more fun...</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2004 06:59:18 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jon_kill</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/38058/All-I-want-for-Christmas-is-a-robot-suit-and-unlimited-power#804775</link>	
		<description>Neeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrd!</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2004 07:03:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: asianmack</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/38058/All-I-want-for-Christmas-is-a-robot-suit-and-unlimited-power#804778</link>	
		<description>There is nothing nerdy about a Mecha.... I mean, once you finally build it, you can impress all those green haired women and they&apos;ll be throwing their clothes off like there&apos;s no tomorrow. I mean that&apos;s what happens in anime films....ok, so I guess it is nerdy.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2004 07:06:14 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: driveler</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/38058/All-I-want-for-Christmas-is-a-robot-suit-and-unlimited-power#804783</link>	
		<description>Screw trekking poles.  I&apos;ve found my new &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.com.com/Photos+Robotic+revolution/2009-1026_3-5500016-4.html?tag=st.next&quot;&gt;backpacking accessory&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2004 07:11:09 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: moonbiter</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/38058/All-I-want-for-Christmas-is-a-robot-suit-and-unlimited-power#804786</link>	
		<description>&lt;cite&gt;Robert Heinlein&apos;s 1959 novel &quot;Starship Troopers,&quot; &lt;strong&gt;and the 1997 film made from the book&lt;/strong&gt;, featured soldiers with powerful exoskeletal armor that dramatically augmented their strength.&lt;/cite&gt;

I guess the author (John Borland) has never seen the 1997 film; which I suppose is fortunate for him.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2004 07:15:20 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tpl1212</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/38058/All-I-want-for-Christmas-is-a-robot-suit-and-unlimited-power#804789</link>	
		<description>Whoa!  In the photo of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.com.com/Photos+Robotic+revolution/2009-1026_3-5500016-4.html?tag=st.next&quot;&gt;Berkeley Lower Extremity Exoskeleton&lt;/a&gt; (BLEE?), is that  Tennessee Titans quarterback &lt;a href=&quot;http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/photo?slug=ny15212172101.titans_mcnair_ny152&amp;prov=ap&quot;&gt;Steve McNair&lt;/a&gt;?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2004 07:16:49 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: graymouser</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/38058/All-I-want-for-Christmas-is-a-robot-suit-and-unlimited-power#804791</link>	
		<description>[This is good]</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2004 07:18:41 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mayor Curley</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/38058/All-I-want-for-Christmas-is-a-robot-suit-and-unlimited-power#804834</link>	
		<description>He&apos;s going to crush cars with it? He&apos;s no Tony Stark.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2004 07:52:00 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: plasticpool</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/38058/All-I-want-for-Christmas-is-a-robot-suit-and-unlimited-power#804918</link>	
		<description>&lt;strong&gt;runkelfinker&lt;/strong&gt;, the fort you linked to is pretty  cool, but how much cooler would it be if it got up and walked?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2004 08:36:58 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: elafint</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/38058/All-I-want-for-Christmas-is-a-robot-suit-and-unlimited-power#804957</link>	
		<description>If this thing ever works, and the general public were allowed to order one (at $35,000 - $40,000, according to his website), I wonder what kind of license would be required to operate it?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2004 09:08:23 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: TeamBilly</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/38058/All-I-want-for-Christmas-is-a-robot-suit-and-unlimited-power#804972</link>	
		<description>I think it has good commercial applications. I remember watching Aliens and thinking that the power-suit-loader thing made a lot of sense. Sure as hell looked real, too. 

I wonder if Owens has ever heard of or met &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kevinwarwick.com/&quot;&gt;Kevin Warwick.&lt;/a&gt; I saw his talk at SXSW a couple years ago and it was fascinating. Maybe the two of them could get together. If he could work something with Warwick, might save a lot of weight on the thing with respect to hydraulics.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2004 09:19:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: elafint</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/38058/All-I-want-for-Christmas-is-a-robot-suit-and-unlimited-power#804981</link>	
		<description>TeamBilly, I&apos;m familiar with Prof. Warwick&apos;s cyborg experiments, but I&apos;m not familiar with any work of his which would be able to replace the hydraulics powering an 18&apos; tall steel robot. Most of his work seems to be in nerve-computer integration. Was there something he spoke specifically about at SXSW?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2004 09:27:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: linux</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/38058/All-I-want-for-Christmas-is-a-robot-suit-and-unlimited-power#804991</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cartoonnetwork.com/tv_shows/megasxlr/&quot;&gt;Living here in Jersey,
fighting villains from afar!
You gotta find first gear,
In your giant robot car!
You dig giant robots,
I dig giant robots,
We dig giant robots,
Chicks dig giant robots...
Nice! &lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2004 09:32:26 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>linux</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: tss</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/38058/All-I-want-for-Christmas-is-a-robot-suit-and-unlimited-power#805052</link>	
		<description>I hope he&apos;s got plans for making his 18-foot tall robot walk. Bipedal locomotion isn&apos;t easy to do. You&apos;ll notice that ASIMO and QRIO, among others, generally shift all their weight onto one leg as they move the other; in the case of this mecha, there&apos;s a lot of weight to shift regardless of his strategy.

It says in the article that he put a lot of weight in the robot&apos;s legs, which is probably a good idea. Still, you lift up one leg to move it, and you&apos;re still off balance.

P.S. It&apos;s hard for me to find Warwick impressive. Volunteering at the Humane Society in 1995, I helped inject RFID tags into animals, but when we were done we didn&apos;t call them cyborgs.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:09:21 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: TeamBilly</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/38058/All-I-want-for-Christmas-is-a-robot-suit-and-unlimited-power#805155</link>	
		<description>elafint,


I shouldn&apos;t have said &quot;replace hydraulics.&quot; I should have said &quot;governs motion.&quot; 

It was this line in the article that made me think of Warwick:

&lt;strong&gt;&quot;Owens said he can&apos;t afford top-of-the line equipment, like infrared sensors and electronics that would govern the motion.&quot;&lt;/strong&gt;

At the SXSW talk he gave, he specifically mentioned how they achieved the extra-sensory inputs from the ultrasonic sensors mounted on the brim of a hat. Warwick reacted to objects in proximity to the sensors, though they weren&apos;t particularly sure &lt;em&gt; why&lt;/em&gt; it worked, IIRC.  His eyes were closed and I believe he was blindfolded. But he would &quot;feel&quot; a piece of cardboard as it neared the sensors, and flinch if it was moved rapidly. 

The electronics Warwick used weren&apos;t particularly sophisticated in a high-tech sense, (near as I could tell)  and it made me think that if Warwick&apos;s experiments seemed to work there, then the &quot;balance sense&quot; that Owens is looking for to govern the motion might apply in the same way. I am neither engineer nor scientist so I don&apos;t know, but from this layman&apos;s perspective, I simply wonder if it makes sense. 

tss - 

You didn&apos;t call them Cyborgs because they weren&apos;t - there was no physical or neural interaction with the tag. As Tyler Durden said, &quot;Sticking feathers up your ass does not make you a chicken.&quot; An RFID tag does not a cyborg pet make.

I found Warwick&apos;s speech at SXSW compelling, and I plan to read his book if Santa brings it to me like I asked.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:15:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Shane</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/38058/All-I-want-for-Christmas-is-a-robot-suit-and-unlimited-power#805159</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Bipedal locomotion isn&apos;t easy to do. &lt;/em&gt;

I understand the human form is inefficient and impractical for robots in general.

God bless &apos;im, though! We&apos;re one day closer to the magical day &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.stomptokyo.com/otf/Johnny-Sokko/Sokko6.JPG&quot;&gt;giant robots walk the streets&lt;/a&gt;. I&apos;d like eventually to see some of the robot/art made by Slick Henry in Gibson&apos;s &lt;em&gt;Mona Lisa Overdrive too&lt;/em&gt; ;-)</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:17:28 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Shane</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: tss</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/38058/All-I-want-for-Christmas-is-a-robot-suit-and-unlimited-power#805349</link>	
		<description>It&apos;s impractical now, but I hold hope for the future.

I have a friend who works on compliant legs---legs with some spring in them. He wants to make a bipedal runner for his thesis. Maybe it&apos;s just his proselytizing, but I think his work is going to make strides (har) toward making bipedal robots practical. Storing and releasing mechanical energy in each step will make walking and running much more efficient.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2004 13:43:14 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: runkelfinker</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/38058/All-I-want-for-Christmas-is-a-robot-suit-and-unlimited-power#805421</link>	
		<description>&lt;b&gt;plasticpool&lt;/b&gt;, yup it&apos;d be pretty cool...</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:02:16 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The Great Big Mulp</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/38058/All-I-want-for-Christmas-is-a-robot-suit-and-unlimited-power#805426</link>	
		<description>This makes me very, very happy.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:17:19 -0800</pubDate>
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