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Es wie wie dies und wie das und wie dies, und. Vibrant demonstration of why your favorite hip-hop artist is unlikely to be German.
Link via little black dada cat.
what, you're surprised that a music form that relies on the cadence and words of a language loses something when translated literally? Hardly a demonstration of why you're favorite artist isn't german.
You know, I bet if you did the same test in reverse it would be, from a german point of view, a vibrant example of why you're favorite german hip-hop artist is unlikely to be American.
So, start with a german hip-hop group and evaluate on its own merits. Listen to some Fettes Brot, for example.
posted by warhol at 5:38 PM on December 25, 2004
You know, I bet if you did the same test in reverse it would be, from a german point of view, a vibrant example of why you're favorite german hip-hop artist is unlikely to be American.
So, start with a german hip-hop group and evaluate on its own merits. Listen to some Fettes Brot, for example.
posted by warhol at 5:38 PM on December 25, 2004
But some (most) of my favorite Hip-hop artists ARE German!
Gotta agree with Warhol... there is some really brilliant German hip-hop being produced these days days, much of it being a million times better than the American stuff. The German language lends itself perfectly to the art form, and there are plenty of amazing and clever artists using it in very creative and enjoyable ways. Hours worth of such examples can be downloaded here, for free.
posted by RoseovSharon at 5:55 PM on December 25, 2004
Gotta agree with Warhol... there is some really brilliant German hip-hop being produced these days days, much of it being a million times better than the American stuff. The German language lends itself perfectly to the art form, and there are plenty of amazing and clever artists using it in very creative and enjoyable ways. Hours worth of such examples can be downloaded here, for free.
posted by RoseovSharon at 5:55 PM on December 25, 2004
Poor old German... the most maligned language in the world. I'm quite fond of it, personally... it can be sweet in its aggressive literalness, sometimes. It's like trying to have a relationship with a particularly unemotional woman, but occasionally making little breakthroughs. Or something like that anyway.
posted by reklaw at 6:19 PM on December 25, 2004
posted by reklaw at 6:19 PM on December 25, 2004
the cold, beautiful bitch
posted by leotrotsky at 6:24 PM on December 25, 2004
posted by leotrotsky at 6:24 PM on December 25, 2004
That's a great link, RoseovSharon. Any suggestions on whom to download first?
posted by Faint of Butt at 6:34 PM on December 25, 2004
posted by Faint of Butt at 6:34 PM on December 25, 2004
Faint of Butt: Truly, I liked most everything I found on that page... only about 5 tracks out of all of them I didn't think were all that great. The range of talent differs, some are obviously well refined while others are much more amateur. I say get all of 'em and then weed out the few you don't like. Particularly though, I really enjoyed the tracks by "Dichta", "Bruder Jakob" and "Die Zwei".
If you happen to use the Firefox browser, they recently released a new extension called "Download them all" which lets you grab all the downloadable files from a page all in one fell swoop. Very handy for this sort of thing.
Enjoy!
posted by RoseovSharon at 7:19 PM on December 25, 2004
If you happen to use the Firefox browser, they recently released a new extension called "Download them all" which lets you grab all the downloadable files from a page all in one fell swoop. Very handy for this sort of thing.
Enjoy!
posted by RoseovSharon at 7:19 PM on December 25, 2004
These links are great and timely... I am totally enthralled w/ non-English hip hop right now.
posted by john m at 7:20 PM on December 25, 2004
posted by john m at 7:20 PM on December 25, 2004
I won't mind trying some non-english hip hop... I'm sure they have some good German artists, but clicking on the link provided by the FPP sent me to a page written in german and I don't speak a lick of it. Any links to just downloads?
posted by yossarian1 at 7:48 PM on December 25, 2004
posted by yossarian1 at 7:48 PM on December 25, 2004
Yossarian... re-read my post above and click the link provided therein. It's all in German as well, but just click on the list of the artists names, then once on their page, click on the download logos for the format you want. If you still have trouble figuring it out, copy the url and plop it into Google's translator tool.
posted by RoseovSharon at 7:56 PM on December 25, 2004
posted by RoseovSharon at 7:56 PM on December 25, 2004
MetaFilter: Das ist der Klang des Biests.
posted by Faint of Butt at 8:29 PM on December 25, 2004
posted by Faint of Butt at 8:29 PM on December 25, 2004
Yeah, seriously. Attempting to translate Sido's "Meine Stadt, mein Bezirk, mein Viertel, meine Gegend, meine Straße, mein Zuhause, mein Block/meine Gedanken, mein Herz, mein Leben, meine Welt reicht vom ersten bis zum sechzehnten Stock" into English that doesn't sound horribly forced is, well, pretty hard. Forget Bavarian drinking songs.
And besides, the Germans do have some of den fettesten Beats mit den dopsten MCs.
posted by oaf at 8:51 PM on December 25, 2004
And besides, the Germans do have some of den fettesten Beats mit den dopsten MCs.
posted by oaf at 8:51 PM on December 25, 2004
I can't remember the names of all the good German hiphop artists, but there are plenty. Some of the best, surprisingly or unsurprisingly, are from kids whose families are not German-born. Neighborhoods that are immigration-heavy, like Roedelheim, have a hip-hop sound all their own.
Probably the most popular (and "commercial") one in Germany is die Fantastischen Vier (the fantastic 4) who have been around since 1988. On a quick Google, there's a sample here (660K MP3) . Die da?! was their big hit at one point.
I hear that people trade music on P2P networks, and no doubt they would have plenty of F4, probably Fettes Brot as well. Fischmob have some good tracks as well. And in Berlin, the short-lived (and personally beloved) Madonna Hiphop Massaker sang in English, and was kind enough to provide lyrics for you.
posted by cloudscratcher at 8:59 PM on December 25, 2004
Probably the most popular (and "commercial") one in Germany is die Fantastischen Vier (the fantastic 4) who have been around since 1988. On a quick Google, there's a sample here (660K MP3) . Die da?! was their big hit at one point.
I hear that people trade music on P2P networks, and no doubt they would have plenty of F4, probably Fettes Brot as well. Fischmob have some good tracks as well. And in Berlin, the short-lived (and personally beloved) Madonna Hiphop Massaker sang in English, and was kind enough to provide lyrics for you.
posted by cloudscratcher at 8:59 PM on December 25, 2004
This is the second time in two months I've done this on Metafilter, but I have to give a shout out (Schrei aus?) to my homeboys in Fuenf Sterne Deluxe, whom I like much better than Fantastischen Vier (und Fettes Brot und Dynamite Deluxe und die andere Rappers).
posted by Admiral Haddock at 9:17 PM on December 25, 2004
posted by Admiral Haddock at 9:17 PM on December 25, 2004
Fanta Vier ist die Bombe. Think Vanilla Ice times four (it's a quartet, after all),
hallo Thomas, hallo alles klar
es ist schon wieder freitag es ist wieder diese bar
und ich muss dir jetzt erzaehlen was mir widerfahren ist
jetzt seh ich die zukunft positiv denn ich bin optimist
Check babelfish.
Awesome.
For what it's worth, at parties I can do the Die Da dance, I saw their music video in my German class in college. If I ever show face at a MeFi meetup, it may be brought out. Watch out.
Ever hear the Beatles in German? Good stuff....
posted by sdrawkcab at 9:22 PM on December 25, 2004
hallo Thomas, hallo alles klar
es ist schon wieder freitag es ist wieder diese bar
und ich muss dir jetzt erzaehlen was mir widerfahren ist
jetzt seh ich die zukunft positiv denn ich bin optimist
Check babelfish.
Awesome.
For what it's worth, at parties I can do the Die Da dance, I saw their music video in my German class in college. If I ever show face at a MeFi meetup, it may be brought out. Watch out.
Ever hear the Beatles in German? Good stuff....
posted by sdrawkcab at 9:22 PM on December 25, 2004
Boy, I thought I was strange for liking Manner des Westerns off of Falco 3.
Yeah, FALCO.
posted by black8 at 9:45 PM on December 25, 2004
Yeah, FALCO.
posted by black8 at 9:45 PM on December 25, 2004
I'd be willing to bet that I am the only MeFite who has purchased a CD of hiphop performed in German by an American. Der Beat macht frei!
posted by cali at 12:37 AM on December 26, 2004
posted by cali at 12:37 AM on December 26, 2004
This might be better for AskMe, but since we're talking about German Hip Hop already, I've got a question for anyone in the know.
I saw this German hip hop artist on MTV Europe a few years ago (around 1998-9). The video was shot in black and white, the singer was a woman, and in it she's filmed real-time while standing on a subway platform. Everyone else around her is filmed sped-up, like someone hit the fast-forward button on a VCR. Does anyone know the singer/song I'm talking about?
That particular song is what convinced me that German is a downright awesome language to rap in.
posted by Civil_Disobedient at 3:12 AM on December 26, 2004
I saw this German hip hop artist on MTV Europe a few years ago (around 1998-9). The video was shot in black and white, the singer was a woman, and in it she's filmed real-time while standing on a subway platform. Everyone else around her is filmed sped-up, like someone hit the fast-forward button on a VCR. Does anyone know the singer/song I'm talking about?
That particular song is what convinced me that German is a downright awesome language to rap in.
posted by Civil_Disobedient at 3:12 AM on December 26, 2004
Even though Germany is more renowned internationally for its electronic music producers it is home to a vibrant hip hop scene, concentrated around the towns of Stuttgart, Berlin and Hamburg and the Ruhr region, although you will usually find MCs, break dancers and DJs in the youth clubs even of very small towns. The roots of German hip hop go back to the early 80s, when the first break dance craze hit Europe. Hip Hop and especially break dancing were very popular and even appeared on tv shows your mom and pop would watch - for two years, 1983 and 1984. After that, the media picked up the next trend.
Until the early 90s when Die Fantastischen Vier charted with their white suburban middle-class version of hip hop, the sound was kept alive in the underground mainly by the sons (and to a much lesser extent, daughters) of turkish, yugoslavian and italian migrant workers, whose parents had been hired by German companies in the 60s (e.g. Sons of Gastarbeita, Advanced Chemistry).
German hip hop reached the height of its commercial (and probably artistic) success in the second half of the 90s with great performers like Die Absoluten Beginner, Fünf Sterne Deluxe and Freundeskreis.
In the recent years many new hip hop artists are increasingly influenced by either gangsta rap (e.g. Sido of the Aggro Berlin posse) or afro-caribbian music (Reggae, Dancehall).
posted by Herr Fahrstuhl at 9:11 AM on December 26, 2004
Until the early 90s when Die Fantastischen Vier charted with their white suburban middle-class version of hip hop, the sound was kept alive in the underground mainly by the sons (and to a much lesser extent, daughters) of turkish, yugoslavian and italian migrant workers, whose parents had been hired by German companies in the 60s (e.g. Sons of Gastarbeita, Advanced Chemistry).
German hip hop reached the height of its commercial (and probably artistic) success in the second half of the 90s with great performers like Die Absoluten Beginner, Fünf Sterne Deluxe and Freundeskreis.
In the recent years many new hip hop artists are increasingly influenced by either gangsta rap (e.g. Sido of the Aggro Berlin posse) or afro-caribbian music (Reggae, Dancehall).
posted by Herr Fahrstuhl at 9:11 AM on December 26, 2004
Ich liebe dich nicht, du liebst mich nicht. Aha.
posted by chicobangs at 9:36 AM on December 26, 2004
posted by chicobangs at 9:36 AM on December 26, 2004
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posted by Faint of Butt at 5:31 PM on December 25, 2004