Be a Nader Trader!
October 25, 2000 10:29 AM Subscribe
Be a Nader Trader! This site puts American University law professor Jamin Raskin's theory into practice.
No....hardly. I'm not interested in Bush winning the election but I want to see Nader get enough votes to get funding and debate recognition during the next election.
See my extended comments.
Since I don't qualify for either "vote exchange" I'll be voting Nader regardless.
posted by bkdelong at 12:22 PM on October 25, 2000
See my extended comments.
Since I don't qualify for either "vote exchange" I'll be voting Nader regardless.
posted by bkdelong at 12:22 PM on October 25, 2000
I read your extended comments, and I agree that abortion is a real issue for voters to consider. But c'mon, it's not the only issue. The abortion debate has hijacked American politics to the exclusion of everything else! I'm voting Nader because the abortion issue is obscuring all the other problems that have been festering for decades. Ralph Nader is the only candidate that even voices an opinion on those issues.
A vote for Nader will put these issues more and more to the fore, if only to add more diversity to the same old campaign issues.
posted by snakey at 12:50 PM on October 25, 2000
A vote for Nader will put these issues more and more to the fore, if only to add more diversity to the same old campaign issues.
posted by snakey at 12:50 PM on October 25, 2000
Re-read my kvetching. That was a small snippet of the reasons I don't want Bush in office. At ALL.
I'm quite aware that those are not even a fraction of all the issues but those are ones that currently effect my wife and (potential) child. I have many other bones to pick including why the hell candidates aren't pushing environmentally-friendly and more economical hybrid cars during an oil/gasoline price hike, a 25% price hike in the natural gas I'll be using to heat my home this winter and a slew of other general political issues that neither Bush nor Gore can give a straight answer on.
I, like you, am sick to death of the same "issues" over and over and over. While many of these same issues are important, those are the ONLY ones candidates appear to be publicly addressing. And you're 100% correct - Nader is the only one covering *all* the issues and that's a major reason why I'm voting for him.
posted by bkdelong at 1:20 PM on October 25, 2000
I'm quite aware that those are not even a fraction of all the issues but those are ones that currently effect my wife and (potential) child. I have many other bones to pick including why the hell candidates aren't pushing environmentally-friendly and more economical hybrid cars during an oil/gasoline price hike, a 25% price hike in the natural gas I'll be using to heat my home this winter and a slew of other general political issues that neither Bush nor Gore can give a straight answer on.
I, like you, am sick to death of the same "issues" over and over and over. While many of these same issues are important, those are the ONLY ones candidates appear to be publicly addressing. And you're 100% correct - Nader is the only one covering *all* the issues and that's a major reason why I'm voting for him.
posted by bkdelong at 1:20 PM on October 25, 2000
I brought up the abortion issue for the reasons stated above -- but on another issue, freedom from religion, Joe Lieberman is no prize.
As for the vote trading scheme, it seems to be a gimmick to me. I think that most progressives in states that will go to Bush should vote for Nader anyway. Voting your conscience is every citizen's duty -- no matter where you live.
posted by snakey at 2:41 PM on October 25, 2000
As for the vote trading scheme, it seems to be a gimmick to me. I think that most progressives in states that will go to Bush should vote for Nader anyway. Voting your conscience is every citizen's duty -- no matter where you live.
posted by snakey at 2:41 PM on October 25, 2000
I dunno. I'm willing to vote somebody else's conscience and have them vote mine if it's for our mutual benefit. If that's the way the game is played....
posted by youhas at 4:35 PM on October 25, 2000
posted by youhas at 4:35 PM on October 25, 2000
Some clever people should try to trade their Nader vote to Gories 2 or 300 hundred times. You would be holding up your end, how are they to know you are a bigamist.
If Nader fails to get his precious 5%, I will call him Fader, and start driving incredibly unsafe cars. You people don't want that do you?
posted by thirteen at 10:47 PM on October 25, 2000
If Nader fails to get his precious 5%, I will call him Fader, and start driving incredibly unsafe cars. You people don't want that do you?
posted by thirteen at 10:47 PM on October 25, 2000
The Washington Post mentions Nader Traders in an online-only story this afternoon.
posted by thescoop at 4:58 PM on October 26, 2000
posted by thescoop at 4:58 PM on October 26, 2000
What keeps those who promise to vote for Gore and vice versa from saying 'Screw this I'm gonna do my man a little more good.'
Read the link in the original post. it states that the swap is intended to be made with friends
"Since you're contacting a personal friend about being a Nader Trader, you can be sure your faith isn't wasted."
I don't have any close friends in swing states or I would consider entering into just such a pact because Maryland is strongly in Gore's column.
Other Nader backers are actually suggesting that Nader voters wait until the last minute to cast their votes for either Nader or Gore depending on what exit polls say. If Gore has a comfortable lead then Nader voters vote for Nader. If Bush is ahead or the election is close the Nader supporters vote for Gore.
Even wealthy Nader supporters who were buying ads for Nader are pulling those ads in swing states--including California, which is key--because they too feel that while they want Nader to get the matching funds they don't want to help Bush get elected like Anderson did for Ronnie Raygun in 1980.
posted by terrapin at 8:05 PM on October 26, 2000
Read the link in the original post. it states that the swap is intended to be made with friends
"Since you're contacting a personal friend about being a Nader Trader, you can be sure your faith isn't wasted."
I don't have any close friends in swing states or I would consider entering into just such a pact because Maryland is strongly in Gore's column.
Other Nader backers are actually suggesting that Nader voters wait until the last minute to cast their votes for either Nader or Gore depending on what exit polls say. If Gore has a comfortable lead then Nader voters vote for Nader. If Bush is ahead or the election is close the Nader supporters vote for Gore.
Even wealthy Nader supporters who were buying ads for Nader are pulling those ads in swing states--including California, which is key--because they too feel that while they want Nader to get the matching funds they don't want to help Bush get elected like Anderson did for Ronnie Raygun in 1980.
posted by terrapin at 8:05 PM on October 26, 2000
Are y'all (or a finely ground number of you) not following the link? The site does not do anything. Not a complaint, but--- it's obviously only been created to use the catchy domain name & spread the idea. (straining to not say meme)
posted by EngineBeak at 8:55 PM on October 26, 2000
posted by EngineBeak at 8:55 PM on October 26, 2000
All my friends in swing states are republican.
posted by capt.crackpipe at 9:33 PM on October 26, 2000
posted by capt.crackpipe at 9:33 PM on October 26, 2000
Poll numbers, matching funds, etc. mean nothing to me. I'll vote for a candidate who will support my right to smoke a lot of weed. Yah!
posted by snakey at 9:03 AM on October 27, 2000
posted by snakey at 9:03 AM on October 27, 2000
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