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	<title>Comments on: BBC Radio Player Relaunch</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2005 14:25:56 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>BBC Radio Player Relaunch</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/38943/BBC-Radio-Player-Relaunch</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2005/01_january/24/player.shtml"&gt;Auntie re-launches her Internet Radio Player,&lt;/a&gt; which should be fully operational tomorrow. It looks as though it will feature some truly user-friendly facilities. The numbers: it will feature 500 extra hours of programming and over 80 more programmes,and they&apos;ve read over 30,000 e-mails to find out what people want.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2005 14:19:19 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Holly</dc:creator>		<category>bbc</category>		<category>internetradioplayer</category>
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		<title>By: blindsam</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/38943/BBC-Radio-Player-Relaunch#832763</link>	
		<description>Does that mean that I&apos;m not going to have use R**l player anymore? It&apos;s literally the only reason i have it...

As an Englishman in New York (ok ok, New Jersey - the job said NY &lt;i&gt;metro area&lt;/i&gt;), I live by the BBC&apos;s online service, and while the previous-seven-days thing is great, I don&apos;t know why &lt;em&gt;everything&lt;/em&gt; couldn&apos;t be online...

(ok I do know why, I just don&apos;t like any of the answers.)</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2005 14:25:56 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: smackfu</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/38943/BBC-Radio-Player-Relaunch#832771</link>	
		<description>Auntie?  Is that a British-ism?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2005 14:30:52 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Robot Johnny</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/38943/BBC-Radio-Player-Relaunch#832779</link>	
		<description>From Wikipedia, the BBC is: &lt;em&gt;&quot;...sometimes affectionately known to local consumers as &quot;the Beeb&quot;, &quot;the Corporation&quot;, or &quot;Auntie&quot;...&quot;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2005 14:34:51 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Robot Johnny</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: seanyboy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/38943/BBC-Radio-Player-Relaunch#832783</link>	
		<description>I thought it was wider than just the UK. Anyway, the BBC is called Auntie. I&apos;ve no idea why, but probably has something to do with the almost familial aspect of early BBC radio broadcasts.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2005 14:36:20 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Holly</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/38943/BBC-Radio-Player-Relaunch#832794</link>	
		<description>The BBC itself &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/keyfacts/stories/auntie.shtml&quot;&gt;doesn&apos;t seem too clear&lt;/a&gt; about why it&apos;s called &quot;Auntie&quot;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2005 14:45:27 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Holly</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: clarkie666</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/38943/BBC-Radio-Player-Relaunch#832799</link>	
		<description>Although some live sporting events are not available on Five Live outside the UK without a little tweaking...</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2005 14:48:36 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>clarkie666</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: blindsam</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/38943/BBC-Radio-Player-Relaunch#832803</link>	
		<description>I&apos;ve noticed that, and I can&apos;t remember how I got around it, but it wasn&apos;t rocket science.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2005 14:56:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Holly</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/38943/BBC-Radio-Player-Relaunch#832808</link>	
		<description>I&apos;d love to know what that &quot;tweaking&quot; involves, if anyone can keep it short and idiot-proof... do any websites explain it?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2005 14:59:05 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Holly</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: OldMansHands</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/38943/BBC-Radio-Player-Relaunch#832871</link>	
		<description>I can&apos;t find out whether they&apos;re keeping Real or switching to mp3 - does anyone know?

I love being able to pick up Radio 4 programs without having to remember when they&apos;re on, it would be nice to be able to throw them onto my mp3 player rather than being tied to my computer.

As far as tweaking goes - can you get at the .ram files? They contain pointers to the real stream, if it&apos;s just the .rams you can&apos;t get then anyone over this side of the pond could find the  location of the stream, and you should be able to open it in Real Player.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2005 15:46:10 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>OldMansHands</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: dash_slot-</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/38943/BBC-Radio-Player-Relaunch#832876</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;In Our Time is also available via podcasting - the BBC is the first British broadcaster to use this technology.&lt;/em&gt;

My auntie&apos;s hipper than your auntie!</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2005 15:48:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: haqspan</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/38943/BBC-Radio-Player-Relaunch#832900</link>	
		<description>I listen to some of the live sports events labelled &apos;UK only&apos; and I&apos;m in New York. When you register with the site, just tell it you&apos;re in the UK. Seems to do the trick.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:09:54 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: clarkie666</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/38943/BBC-Radio-Player-Relaunch#832939</link>	
		<description>Accessing streams through a proxy server &lt;a href=&quot;http://ask.metafilter.com/mefi/14375#comment&quot;&gt;here &lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2005 17:11:08 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>clarkie666</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: zorro astor</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/38943/BBC-Radio-Player-Relaunch#832961</link>	
		<description>Let me get this straight, you don&apos;t have to pay anything? That sounds like an aweful lot of stuff for nothing.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2005 17:45:00 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>zorro astor</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: noizyboy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/38943/BBC-Radio-Player-Relaunch#832969</link>	
		<description>Auntie Beeb - it&apos;s a pretty well known nickname here in New Zealand.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2005 18:01:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dash_slot-</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/38943/BBC-Radio-Player-Relaunch#832976</link>	
		<description>&lt;strong&gt;zorro astor&lt;/strong&gt;: Well, we pay for it already - via the Licence fee (about &#163;10 / month). Good ole socialism in action!</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2005 18:12:56 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>dash_slot-</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: bonaldi</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/38943/BBC-Radio-Player-Relaunch#832977</link>	
		<description>Good, eh, zorro astor? That&apos;s the joy of the licence fee (you pay &#163;100 to &apos;licence&apos; your telly; less for B&amp;amp;W sets).

on preview: tip of the hat to the dash</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2005 18:14:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Thorzdad</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/38943/BBC-Radio-Player-Relaunch#833013</link>	
		<description>Looks like it&apos;s a mix of RealPlayer and WMP. 
WTF is wrong with mp3?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2005 19:07:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sunexplodes</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/38943/BBC-Radio-Player-Relaunch#833066</link>	
		<description>It&apos;d be killer if auntie adopted &lt;a href=&quot;http://slate.msn.com/id/2112548/fr/rss/&quot;&gt;aacplus&lt;/a&gt;, a relatively new audio format which sounds nearly as good as a CD, even when it&apos;s compressed enough to play through a dialup line. 48 kbps anyone?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2005 20:43:02 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>sunexplodes</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: xiojason</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/38943/BBC-Radio-Player-Relaunch#833098</link>	
		<description>Enhanced aacPlus (or EAAC+) is even supposed to sound about FM-quality even down to 24Kbps. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.audiocoding.com/modules/wiki/?page=aacPlus&quot;&gt;aacPlus&lt;/a&gt; is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.codingtechnologies.com/products/aacPlus.htm&quot;&gt;Coding Technologies&lt;/a&gt;&apos; name for AAC with &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.audiocoding.com/modules/wiki/?page=SBR&quot;&gt;Spectral Band Replication&lt;/a&gt;. It is more generically known as &quot;High-Efficiency AAC&quot; or &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.audiocoding.com/modules/wiki/?page=HE+AAC&quot;&gt;HE-AAC&lt;/a&gt;. &quot;Enhanced&quot; aacPlus is HE-AAC plus &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.codingtechnologies.com/products/paraSter.htm&quot;&gt;Parametric Stereo&lt;/a&gt;. It&apos;s desginated as a required codec for &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.3gpp.org/&quot;&gt;3GPP&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.3gpp.org/ftp/specs/html-info/26405.htm&quot;&gt;rel 6&lt;/a&gt;, so that means it should start showing up on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nokia.com/&quot;&gt;cellphones&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.audiocoding.com/modules/wiki/?page=Software+Audio+Players+for+Windows&quot;&gt;desktops&lt;/a&gt; probably later this year, if not already.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2005 22:08:37 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Holly</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/38943/BBC-Radio-Player-Relaunch#833177</link>	
		<description> &quot;Accessing streams through a proxy server here&quot;. Thanks  clarkie666 and haqspan, I&apos;ll look into those tweaks the next time I want to listen to a halfway-decent live soccer game on Five Live.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2005 01:02:03 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Holly</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: simonw</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/38943/BBC-Radio-Player-Relaunch#833220</link>	
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;WTF is wrong with mp3?&lt;/blockquote&gt;I little birdie told me that the problem with MP3 is that it&apos;s essentially a poisoned acronym when you&apos;re trying to negotiate rights with content providers. Take &quot;Listen Again&quot; for shows on Radio 1 which include music for example - if they were available as MP3 the music rights holders would flip their lids. At any rate, the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2004/12_december/17/mp3.shtml&quot;&gt;podcasting trial&lt;/a&gt; has been a success so hopefully they&apos;ll expand it to cover other programmes that they own full rights to.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2005 03:21:24 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: blag</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/38943/BBC-Radio-Player-Relaunch#833266</link>	
		<description>A little birdie told me that &lt;a href=&quot;http://dave.org.uk/streams/&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; is very useful too. Probably won&apos;t work after the changes, though.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2005 05:56:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Orange Goblin</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/38943/BBC-Radio-Player-Relaunch#833361</link>	
		<description>As for Real, there is an &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.free-codecs.com/download/Real_Alternative.htm&quot;&gt;alternative&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2005 07:49:32 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Orange Goblin</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Mo Nickels</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/38943/BBC-Radio-Player-Relaunch#834773</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;I love being able to pick up Radio 4 programs without having to remember when they&apos;re on, it would be nice to be able to throw them onto my mp3 player rather than being tied to my computer.&lt;/i&gt;

I do this everyday using AudioHijack for OS X. There is a Windows equivalent. 

FYI, the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.publicradiofan.com/cgi-bin/wrap.pl?s=rtsp://rmlivev8.bbc.net.uk/farm/*/ev7/live24/radio4/live/r4_dsat_g2.ra&quot;&gt;Radio 4 stream&lt;/a&gt; is higher quality (or was; I don&apos;t know if this has changed in the last couple of days) than any of the World Service feeds. At about 8 p.m. Eastern Standard Time (0100 UTC) it switches over to the main World Service feed, and stays there for four hours. This means that you are listening to a better-sounding channel more suitable for recording.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2005 09:36:06 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mo Nickels</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: nanojath</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/38943/BBC-Radio-Player-Relaunch#862754</link>	
		<description>I also like WireTap from Ambrosia for capturing audio off the sound card.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2005 20:39:52 -0800</pubDate>
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