he crumpled up the original message... and dropped them into the memory hole

February 7, 2005 1:39 PM

WE WENT TO IRAQ TO GIVE THE IRAQIS THE GIFT OF DEMOCRACY*

*Not valid in Sunni majority provinces. "Democracy" means the right to cast a ballot, not necessarily to know for whom you're voting. Democracy means the right to cast a ballot, not necessarily national sovereignty. Democracy means the right to cast a ballot, not to decide who owns your oil. Not valid with other offers, like voting for Islamic theocracy or a pro-Iranian government. Must retain fourteen permanent U.S. military bases to play. Voting will not restore lost parents or children, and will not remove the horror from your soul. Void where prohibited by Ken Blackwell, the USA Patriot Act, the Bybee Memo, Proconsul John Negroponte or any U.S. Soldier's whim.

Brought to you by sien and muckster.
posted by orthogonality (26 comments total)

100,000 dead civilians
15,000 injured US troops
1,400 dead US troops
Billions and billions of dollars

What for?

To double the size of Iran.

Brilliant. Fucking Brilliant.


Republicans officials make Jesus cry.
posted by EmoChild at 1:55 PM on February 7, 2005

Wow, I had no idea about this Patriot Act. It sounds bad! Also, interesting points re: the war in Iraq. I had never considered that it might be a problematic situation.

Thanks, MetaFilter! Please post more news re: Iraq as it comes along!
posted by xmutex at 1:57 PM on February 7, 2005

The bait's not really being set properly without including the original "STFU LIB'RULS!"
posted by dhoyt at 1:57 PM on February 7, 2005

So, you reposted your own comment in another thread about Iraq as FPP?
posted by Steve_at_Linnwood at 2:00 PM on February 7, 2005

Metafilter: Just like Daily Kos
posted by Mean Mr. Bucket at 2:04 PM on February 7, 2005

Whoa, crap. He did just repost a comment as a FPP. That's got be against the dictums of good taste, no?
posted by xmutex at 2:06 PM on February 7, 2005

So this is the 2005 Iraq Omnibus Metafilter Post, right? Sounds like you've got all the angles covered. Nice to get it out of the way all at once...
posted by Mark Doner at 2:07 PM on February 7, 2005

Steve_at_Linnwood grumps, " So, you reposted your own comment in another thread about Iraq as FPP?"

Yes, at the suggestion of two other Mefites (see links in post) and after adding the first ten completely new links which, more or less chronologically, trace the change in rhetorical justification for the Iraq war as the evidence for the original WMD justification was increasingly undermined.

But I do apologize that these links pretty much make this FPP seem a bit of a reach after all.
posted by orthogonality at 2:08 PM on February 7, 2005

Nothing like good old fashioned pedantry to sidestep the points being made...
posted by AlexReynolds at 2:09 PM on February 7, 2005

Alex: remember, nothing is more damning that their- oh, fuck it.
posted by XQUZYPHYR at 2:21 PM on February 7, 2005

What does a Post that I made nearly two years ago have to do with you reposting your own comment as a FPP?

Is this the orthogonality highlight reel?

Nothing like good old fashioned pedantry to sidestep the points being made...

Points that were made just fine in this thread.


But hey, don't let me interrupt! I'm sure this thread will accomplish something different than all of the others.
posted by Steve_at_Linnwood at 2:21 PM on February 7, 2005

So, you reposted your own comment in another thread about Iraq as FPP?

It's a ploy to drive you into liberalism. How's it working?
posted by jperkins at 2:23 PM on February 7, 2005

How's it working?

Oh, it is working great! The never ending IraqFitler has made me change my whole world outlook, and realize just how evil and wrong this war was! I've already scheduled a sabbatical for next semester so I can go volunteer for Howard Dean!
posted by Steve_at_Linnwood at 2:27 PM on February 7, 2005

Mean Mr. Bucket, is it really *just like* Daily Kos? Or are you flourishing a rhetorical silk handkerchief?
posted by kuatto at 2:27 PM on February 7, 2005

Gold.

Both the FPP and the first comment were pure gold.
posted by Talez at 2:30 PM on February 7, 2005

dhoyt: "The bait's not really being set properly..."

Nah, it's working fine. Look at Steve over there, all tangled up. Somebody worked really hard on this trolling effort-- lots of links, witty text...

Seriously, though, it's not so bad. I don't mind posts like this. People have to have opinions about politics, I guess.
posted by koeselitz at 2:30 PM on February 7, 2005

Or are you flourishing a rhetorical silk handkerchief?

No, that was S@L finally waving a flag of surrender.
posted by AlexReynolds at 2:30 PM on February 7, 2005

A thread about a thread about a thread.

Lots of angry confused, noisy and useless mouthpieces about, whereas life's golden thread is nowhere to be seen...
posted by JGreyNemo at 2:32 PM on February 7, 2005

metafilter: a thread about a thread about a thread
posted by koeselitz at 2:33 PM on February 7, 2005

Steve_at_Linnwood, if you don't like the post, take it to MetaTalk. Stop polluting the Blue.
posted by orthogonality at 2:35 PM on February 7, 2005

Stop polluting the Blue.

Heh. You first.
posted by Steve_at_Linnwood at 2:37 PM on February 7, 2005

i dunno. file me in the camp that says reposting a comment as an FPP is a bad idea. and i don't buy the "but there were 10 new links up there" agruement.

also: it was possible that steve was arguing the structure of the post when he made his first comment...but he's a republician so lets automatically jump to conclusions.
posted by Stynxno at 2:38 PM on February 7, 2005

I love a good circle jerk...
posted by Dreamghost at 3:13 PM on February 7, 2005

Back on topic, here's a story I don't think can be told enough.
posted by xammerboy at 3:15 PM on February 7, 2005

If it didn't work the first 50 times, it ain't gonna work this time. It is a little bit over the top anyway, right?
posted by Lord Chancellor at 3:20 PM on February 7, 2005

People have to have opinions about politics, I guess.

But only if it agrees with the groupthink mentality of orthogonality, insomnia_lj, and all of the other shrill antiwar types in Metafilter, right?
posted by casu marzu at 3:22 PM on February 7, 2005