...the Times' republication of articles taken from white supremacist hate groups...

February 10, 2005 5:22 PM

The Washington Times--not just for moonies anymore. Racists love it too! White men should "run, not walk" to wed "racially conscious" white women and avoid being out-bred by non-whites. Latinos are "rising to take this country away from those who made it," the "Euroamericans." Muslims are "human hyenas" who "smell blood" and are "closing in" on their "weakened prey," meaning "the white race." Blacks, Coombs sneers, are "saintly victims who can do no wrong." Black solidarity and non-white immigration are imposing "racial revolution and decomposition" in America.--the writings of Marian Kester Coombs (in the Wash. Times and out of it), her husband (the managing editor of the Times), and Regnery Publishing.
posted by amberglow (38 comments total)

They should print her picture and address next to the articles.
posted by Mr_Zero at 5:33 PM on February 10, 2005

That does it, I'm canceling my subscription.
posted by gwint at 5:36 PM on February 10, 2005

That does it, I'm canceling my subscription.
You may be, but our President isn't:
That influence may have reached a public peak this winter, when President George W. Bush invited its top leaders — including Coombs, Pruden, Hanner and others — to the White House for an exclusive, 40-minute interview. The resulting stories were spread across the front page of the Times' Jan. 12 edition.

Presumably the president, who on Feb. 8 denounced "the baggage of bigotry" and called racism "the central defect of our founding," knew little of the paper's record on race.
posted by amberglow at 5:40 PM on February 10, 2005

Now, let me get this straight...

A paper owned by an Asian pseudoChristian religious fanatic is publishing editorials by a white woman who believes that non-whites are sapping our nation's strength.

*head asplodes*
posted by jonmc at 5:43 PM on February 10, 2005

Actually, you're much better off if you veiw this as the journalistic equivalent of a Wild Man Fischer record. Ignore the implications and just enjoy the insanity of it all as perverse entertainment.
posted by jonmc at 5:45 PM on February 10, 2005

Shocking, just shocking. All along, I had believed that the Washington Times was a beacon of journalistic integrity.
posted by mullingitover at 5:52 PM on February 10, 2005

Latinos are taking this country away from those who made it? You mean latinos are fighting african americans.

That's one white woman who doesn't know her own damn history.
posted by fleener at 5:53 PM on February 10, 2005

fleener, all kinds of people made this country. Don't feed idiots like this woman fuel for their paranoid fantasies.
posted by jonmc at 5:57 PM on February 10, 2005

I read the Washington Times (online). Yeah it is part of the right-wing echo chamber, and it is a bizarre paper, but they get stories that other papers do not b/c reporters like Gertz & Scarborough have excellent sources at the Pentagon (and they have been consistent in writing negative pieces about Rumsfeld & Co. after going after Aspin, Perry & Cohen for 8 years).
posted by mlis at 5:58 PM on February 10, 2005

Religious, Rightwing, Republican.......RRR, oh I mean KKK
posted by snsranch at 6:04 PM on February 10, 2005

Well, it is Black History Month.
posted by IndigoJones at 6:41 PM on February 10, 2005

Oh yea, Black History Month!!!! i just recently learned about this. The Niagra Movement<
posted by snsranch at 6:53 PM on February 10, 2005

Does any body know if the Steely Dan song Barrytown is really about Moonies?
posted by oldleada at 6:58 PM on February 10, 2005

Now that the conservatives are in control, we see their real face. or, at least they're not ashamed to show it...
posted by delmoi at 7:30 PM on February 10, 2005

"We need to keep those darkies in line, set a precedence!" Condloleeza Rice consulting with Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and Powell.
posted by snsranch at 7:41 PM on February 10, 2005

Yes, good old Gertz...I don't mean to be sarcastic, but don't forget Gertz's scoop about 25 Chechen terrorists crossing into our borders.
posted by inksyndicate at 7:41 PM on February 10, 2005

snsranch, that would make a cool little flash animation. Start with the words, then emphasize the initials which then "blow their tops" giving us the true nature of the repuglinutz.

First time I've ever wanted to learn flash....
posted by telstar at 8:25 PM on February 10, 2005

Telstar: yea I wish I could afford the software.
posted by snsranch at 8:43 PM on February 10, 2005

A paper owned by an Asian pseudoChristian religious fanatic is publishing editorials by a white woman who believes that non-whites are sapping our nation's strength.

I can't find my copy, but this reminds me of the WWII headline from Our Dumb Century that went something like: Japanese form Alliance with White Supremacists in Well-Thought-Out Plan.
posted by soyjoy at 9:18 PM on February 10, 2005

A paper owned by an Asian pseudoChristian religious fanatic is publishing editorials by a white woman who believes that non-whites are sapping our nation's strength.

Fascists make strange bedfellows (when its suits them).
posted by AlexReynolds at 11:03 PM on February 10, 2005

Fascists make strange bedfellows (when its suits them).

Er, which one in that picture is the Fascist?
posted by Sangermaine at 11:19 PM on February 10, 2005

Stalin?
posted by AlexReynolds at 11:25 PM on February 10, 2005

And just in case it's not clear, Sangermaine, that photo goes, left to right, Churchill - FDR - Stalin. More on the conference at Yalta. My apologies if your comment was a pithy suggestion that it's hard to tell Western beurocrats from fascists.
posted by rkent at 11:41 PM on February 10, 2005

*checks Sangermaine's user page*

No information listed + provocative comment = troll.
posted by mlis at 11:50 PM on February 10, 2005

What's provocative? Stalin was a Stalinist, not a Fascist. Arguably just as nasty, but not the same thing.
posted by comraderaoul at 3:23 AM on February 11, 2005

comraderaoul wins that round.
posted by dabitch at 4:04 AM on February 11, 2005

Stalin was a Stalinist, not a Fascist. Arguably just as nasty, but not the same thing.

Stalinist Russia meets many of the conditions of classic Fascism. Fascists make strange bedfellows.
posted by AlexReynolds at 8:00 AM on February 11, 2005

Stalin, FDR, Churchill - Not fascists

But made into bedfellows by the epitome of fascism.
posted by mygoditsbob at 8:02 AM on February 11, 2005

I disagree with the "racially conscious" thing, but I'm perfectly aligned with the "breeding" message.
...well, practicing breeding anyway.

Why aren't people like this laughed at more? This is such an outmoded form of thinking about ethnicity I'm surprised it's not in Elizabethan English.
Since, y'know we have actual geneticists 'n' such now.

That 'racial purity' doesn't exist. There is no real genetic difference between, say, an Eskimo and an African Maasai.
Which is why they could mate.

Which is the start of a joke such as when they walk into a bar, and the bartender says we don't get many....

Anyway, it's odd, but that kind of power does that to you. Gives errors in communication and feedback. So you go a little nuts.
Manson seems to have had the same kind of bizarre thought process as Moon - the whole 'race war' b.s. with them somehow gaining ascendancy.

Hopefully he'll drop into a catatonic fantasy before he can stir up any more trouble.
posted by Smedleyman at 8:07 AM on February 11, 2005

President Reagan once described it as his favorite paper. The first President Bush said it "in my view brings sanity to Washington, D.C."

The Moonies are bringing sanity to Washington, D.C? The first president Bush was supposed to be the smart one, right? (By "smart one" I mean "capable of critical thought.")
posted by nequalsone at 8:19 AM on February 11, 2005

From Mein Kampf:

"In the end only the urge for self-preservation can conquer... Mankind has grown great in eternal struggle, and only in eternal peace does it perish... Nature puts living creatures on this globe and watches the free play of forces. She then confers the master's right on her favorite child, the strongest in courage and industry... the stronger must dominate and not blend with the weaker, thus sacrificing his own greatness. Only the born weakling can view this as cruel."

Fascism is based on the idea that some people are born leaders and ought to dominate, as opposed to the basis of democracy, that all human beings are worthy of being recognized as equals. This doesn't mean all human beings get the same ends, but simply that certain rights are established as "human rights" and guaranteed to all, even if they are "weak" in comparison with their brethren. Fascism is, as others have said, quite comparable to corporatism.

Stalin may have ended up in much the same boat, but it wasn't the spoken philosophy of the government he undertook.
posted by mdn at 9:16 AM on February 11, 2005

(By "smart one" I mean "capable of critical thought.")

As long as we're speaking in relative terms, yes.
posted by soyjoy at 9:26 AM on February 11, 2005

oldleada: Don't know the Steely Dan song, but there is a major Moonie emplacement in Barrytown, NY, just down the road from Bard (Steely Dan alma mater).
posted by Zo d'Axa at 10:03 AM on February 11, 2005

Oh how I miss The Washington Star,

which, amazingly, seems to have not a single website or even page devoted to its long life and significance. Even Wikipedia's info is sadly lacking.
posted by melixxa600 at 10:05 AM on February 11, 2005

Stalin may have ended up in much the same boat, but it wasn't the spoken philosophy of the government he undertook.

The form of communism employed by the USSR was almost entirely state corporatism, with masses lead by its cult of personality in the form of Lenin, Stalin etc., and amplified by statist "worker-hero" mythology. Stalinist Russia was most certainly Fascist in practice, as defined by its Italian creator, a former socialist. (Mein Kampf is generally not considered a text on Fascism per se, but a document written by a Fascist.)
posted by AlexReynolds at 10:19 AM on February 11, 2005

FascismFilter: In all of these threads, has anyone ever advanced a definition of fascism with which the majority here can agree? That would sure help. Most of the definitions of fascism I see are so vague that they could no only be applied to Stalinism, but to many liberal democracies as well.
posted by nequalsone at 11:34 AM on February 11, 2005

There is no real genetic difference between, say, an Eskimo and an African Maasai. Which is why they could mate.

There is no real genetic difference between identical twins (or other clones.) There are lots of genetic differences between an Inuit and a Maasai.

They are the same species, and thus, by definition, could produce fertile offspring. The idea of human "races" quickly gets ridiculous if you try to define them genetically, as the traits we associate with race are genetically independent of each other and can be found in pretty much any combination.

But these are very different things from saying there's no real genetic difference among people.
posted by Zed_Lopez at 5:51 PM on February 11, 2005

There is no real genetic difference between, say, an Eskimo and an African Maasai. Which is why they could mate.

No one ever tried to claim that races were different species. I don't see why we have to deny any racial differences to get over racism. Two africans won't produce an asian baby - certain genetic traits will get passed along, and other options won't be available. Doesn't imply a hierarchical structure of any sort, so why deny the simple fact of difference? What ever happened to that whole diversity is beautiful thing?
posted by mdn at 11:07 AM on February 12, 2005