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Moral Politics - A Morality-Based Political Test - "This test is (or at least tries to be) a different political test. Most tests assess your opinion by questioning your stance on political issues. This test explains why you think what you think by mapping your personal moral system." 16 questions.
posted by blacklite (74 comments total)

 
I am a socialist bastard! -1.5 on the Moral Order axis and 2.5 on the Moral Rules axis.
System: Socialism
Variation: Moderate Socialism
Ideologies: Social Democratism
US Parties: No match.
Presidents: Jimmy Carter (84.38%)
2004 Election Candidates: John Kerry (79.04%), Ralph Nader (79.04%), George W. Bush (56.14%)
posted by blacklite at 6:17 PM on February 21, 2005


1. System: Liberalism
2. Variation: Moderate Liberalism
3. Ideologies: Capital Democratism
4. US Parties: Democratic Party
5. Presidents: Bill Clinton (90.89%)
6. 2004 Election Candidates: John Kerry


Pretty much the results I expected. I don't see what makes this test different from any other.
posted by jonmc at 6:22 PM on February 21, 2005


Your scored -4 on the Moral Order axis and 4 on the Moral Rules axis.

1. System: Socialism
2. Variation: Moderate Socialism, Economic Socialism, Moral Socialism, Extreme Socialism
3. Ideologies: Social Democratism
4. US Parties: No match.
5. Presidents: Jimmy Carter (82.32%)
6. 2004 Election Candidates: Ralph Nader (84.07%), John Kerry (73.12%), George W. Bush (43.75%)
posted by amberglow at 6:27 PM on February 21, 2005


It looks pretty similar to the Political Compass (discussed here and here). Just substitute "moral rules" for the "authoritarian/libertarianism" axis and "moral order" for the "left/right" axis, et voila!
posted by casu marzu at 6:29 PM on February 21, 2005


Almost the same as blacklite except less Moral, I guess: -3 on the Moral Order axis and 2.5 on the Moral Rules axis.
1. System: Socialism
2. Variation: Moderate Socialism
3. Ideologies: Social Democratism
4. US Parties: No match.
5. Presidents: Jimmy Carter (88.10%)
6. 2004 Election Candidates: Ralph Nader (85.18%), John Kerry (80.11%), George W. Bush (51.54%)

It's going to be interesting to see how many or how few of us USians get "no match" with the existing political parties.
posted by BoringPostcards at 6:30 PM on February 21, 2005


That's three socialists so far.

This place really is a den of pinkos, after all.
posted by jonmc at 6:31 PM on February 21, 2005


My options for U.S. Parties were: Democratic Party, Republican Party. I always suspected they were the same thing.
posted by casu marzu at 6:31 PM on February 21, 2005


Well, see, casu, this is supposed to trick you into forgetting about that, though. I guess. And it doesn't ask you anything too poignant like "what is your abortion stance?!" or "how much welfare should pregnant single mothers get if any?" Morals & politics are not finely divided or anything, but it tries to be non-political and then tell you from that where you should be in politics. Or at least that's how I read it. And I like all the maps they have (US Presidents, G-8 countries, etc.) ... oh, awesome I think we crashed it. Last time I try to make an FPP.
posted by blacklite at 6:36 PM on February 21, 2005


Very similar to this quiz we've all taken more than once around here. Just gives you some slightly different-looking results feedback.
posted by briank at 6:36 PM on February 21, 2005


Dang. casu marzu beat me to it.
posted by briank at 6:41 PM on February 21, 2005


1. System: Liberalism
2. Variation: Moderate Liberalism
3. Ideologies: Capital Democratism
4. US Parties: Democratic Party
5. Presidents: Gerald Ford (97.79%)
6. 2004 Election Candidates: John Kerry (88.10%), George W. Bush (74.14%), Ralph Nader (69.94%)


Gerry Ford?
posted by loquax at 6:45 PM on February 21, 2005


That's -0.5 on the Moral Order axis and -3 on the Moral Rules axis.
posted by loquax at 6:46 PM on February 21, 2005


Ha ha! You're all commies, just like Bill Gates says!

Seriously, I thought that many of the questions had clear slants. In particular, I think that Question 10, which essentially pits earning money and serving society against each other, is based on a false premise. Maybe I should have checked the "I'm confused" box on that one.

I think the concept is decent, though the execution could use improvement (i.e. not a Web quiz).

Your scored -0.5 on the Moral Order axis and -1 on the Moral Rules axis.
1. System: Liberalism
2. Variation: Moderate Liberalism
3. Ideologies: Capital Democratism
4. US Parties: Democratic Party
5. Presidents: Gerald Ford (90.89%)
6. 2004 Election Candidates: John Kerry (88.10%), Ralph Nader (74.14%), George W. Bush (69.94%)

Though I will admit I dicked around with the questions a lot. By saying that non-traditional lifestyles are not acceptable, I hugely pushed myself into the conservative region.

Yeah, it's just a regular dorky web quiz.

posted by breath at 6:48 PM on February 21, 2005


Your scored -7.5 on the Moral Order axis and 2 on the Moral Rules axis.

The following items best match your score:

1. System: Socialism
2. Variation: Moral Socialism
3. Ideologies: Libertarian Socialism
4. US Parties: No match.
5. Presidents: Jimmy Carter (82.18%)
6. 2004 Election Candidates: Ralph Nader (92.03%), John Kerry (73.39%), George W. Bush (36.69%)

98.7% were to your right on the chart.

...I'll never fit in. :(
posted by cloeburner at 6:49 PM on February 21, 2005


Yeah, it's just a regular dorky web quiz.
Yeah. I think they tried, though, and I like how they present the results, with all the categorization.
posted by blacklite at 7:00 PM on February 21, 2005


well, most of us got Carter, the best human to be president in recent years. : >
posted by amberglow at 7:02 PM on February 21, 2005


0/-7. Reagan is the best match, but Kerry is a better match than Dubya. I straddle ultra-capitalism and ultra-liberalism depending on how I answer a certain question.

But the rest of you are indeed a bunch of godless, heathen commies.
posted by trharlan at 7:02 PM on February 21, 2005


Your Score

Your scored -5 on the Moral Order axis and -2 on the Moral Rules axis.

Matches

The following items best match your score:

1. System: Liberalism
2. Variation: Moral Liberalism
3. Ideologies: Capital Democratism, Progressivism
4. US Parties: Democratic Party, Green Party
5. Presidents: John F Kennedy (100%)
posted by Mean Mr. Bucket at 7:13 PM on February 21, 2005


I have beefs with some of the questions:

About education:
Everyone should have the right to the best education they can afford.
We should focus our resources on our good students.
We should focus our resources on students facing difficulties.
We should focus our resources on teachers.


The closest that comes to my opinion would be the first, but I don't think that the quality of education within one's rights should be based on what one can afford.

About the respect of the Law:
We should focus on those who keep breaking the law.
We should simply enforce the law.
We should reduce the causes of crime.
We should eliminate the causes of crime.


Why would anybody prefer to "reduce the cases of crime," presumably reducing crime, when we could eliminate the causes, and presumably crime itself, entirely? Unless that last answer suggests rounding up criminals and shooting them all.

And what the hell is this one all about:

About success:
Success is power.
Success is finding your inner self.
Success is making a living doing what you love.
Success is measured by the number of people you touch.


Finding my inner self? The number of people I touch? (<-- insert Catholic priest joke here.) (<-- insert "insert Catholic priest" joke here.) My mother had a coffee mug that said "Success is doing what you love and loving what you do" so I guess that has to be the answer.

Anyway, the short test said I was a socialist and the long test said I was an economic liberal so I played with the long test until I got Jimmy Carter and that's what I'm sticking with, dammit.
posted by jennyb at 7:15 PM on February 21, 2005


US Presidents

Of the last nine presidents, Jimmy Carter was probably to most liberal, G.W. Bush the most conservative, and Gerald Ford the most centrist.

JFK was probably as much a moral liberal as LBJ but he was more inclined to play with the economy. Bill Clinton was probably the most capitalist of all democratic presidents.

Richard Nixon was actually more moderate than people remember, while Ronald Reagan was the most capitalist of all presidents.

posted by Mean Mr. Bucket at 7:17 PM on February 21, 2005


1. System: Socialism
2. Variation: Moral Socialism
3. Ideologies: Activism
4. US Parties: No match.
5. Presidents: Jimmy Carter (87.12%)
6. 2004 Election Candidates: Ralph Nader (93.01%), John Kerry (77.25%), George W. Bush (42.97%)


Chalk another one up for the godless, heathen commie party.
posted by rockabilly_pete at 7:20 PM on February 21, 2005


1. System: Authoritarianism
2. Variation: Moderate Authoritarianism
3. Ideologies: Social Republicanism
4. US Parties: No match.
5. Presidents: Gerald Ford (69.94%)
6. 2004 Election Candidates: John Kerry (67.15%), Ralph Nader (62.96%), George W. Bush (60.16%)





Just thought I'd throw one in the ring to balance out all you heathen Godless pinkos.


Although I don't think the 2004 canidates is anywhere close to correct. On some of the other tests like this I'd be much close to Bush (who I voted for) than Kerry (who I wouldn't consider).
posted by BackwardsHatClub at 7:28 PM on February 21, 2005


Your scored -2.5 on the Moral Order axis and 2 on the Moral Rules axis.

# System: Socialism
# Variation: Moderate Socialism
# Ideologies: Social Democratism
# US Parties: No match.
# Presidents: Jimmy Carter (88.95%)


Fair enough.
posted by grabbingsand at 7:32 PM on February 21, 2005


Your scored -4 on the Moral Order axis and -0.5 on the Moral Rules axis.

1. System: Liberalism
2. Variation: Moderate Liberalism, Moral Liberalism
3. Ideologies: Capital Democratism
4. US Parties: Democratic Party
5. Presidents: Jimmy Carter (97.79%)
6. 2004 Election Candidates: John Kerry (92.03%), Ralph Nader (88.95%), George W. Bush (55.53%)


*shuffles towards the heathen godless pinkos*
posted by blendor at 7:34 PM on February 21, 2005


Your scored -4 on the Moral Order axis and 2.5 on the Moral Rules axis.
1. System: Socialism
2. Variation: Moderate Socialism, Moral Socialism
3. Ideologies: Social Democratism
4. US Parties: No match.
5. Presidents: Jimmy Carter (88.95%)
6. 2004 Election Candidates: Ralph Nader (88.95%), John Kerry (79.63%), George W. Bush (48.22%)

posted by rafter at 7:34 PM on February 21, 2005


(-4, -2)
* System: Liberalism
* Variation: Moderate Liberalism, Moral Liberalism
* Ideologies: Capital Democratism
* US Parties: Democratic Party
* Presidents: John F Kennedy (95.58%)
2004 Election Candidates: John Kerry (95.58%), Ralph Nader (84.07%), George W. Bush (58.07%)
* 0.4% had the same score as you.
* 48% were above you on the chart.
* 34.5% were below you on the chart.
* 80.3% were to your right on the chart.
* 13.7% were to your left on the chart.

Also see: politicalcompass.org
posted by odinsdream at 7:35 PM on February 21, 2005


System: Socialism
Variation: Moral Socialism
Ideologies: Social Democratism
US Parties: Democratic Party
Presidents: Jimmy Carter (96.88%)
2004 Election Candidates: Ralph Nader (93.01%), John Kerry (87.12%), George W. Bush (51.49%)


Man, I wish I could move to Europe. :(

Surprised that they actually matched me up with a party. Heh.
posted by beth at 7:37 PM on February 21, 2005


Your scored -4.5 on the Moral Order axis and 4 on the Moral Rules axis.

System: Socialism
Variation: Moral Socialism, Extreme Socialism
Ideologies: Social Democratism
US Parties: No match.
[surprise surprise!]
Presidents: Jimmy Carter (82.18%)
2004 Election Candidates: Ralph Nader (85.18%), John Kerry (72.67%), George W. Bush (42.17%)


what the hell is extreme socialism?
posted by jessamyn at 7:42 PM on February 21, 2005


Your scored -4 on the Moral Order axis and 0.5 on the Moral Rules axis.
posted by kickingtheground at 7:42 PM on February 21, 2005


I gave up on this since I couldn't answer the first question. There was no option for "All people are fundamentally neither good or bad."
posted by idontlikewords at 7:45 PM on February 21, 2005


Eek. I'm such a moderate. Which sadly the test seems to have taken to mean I like everyone in politics instead of, as reality would have it, being disgruntled with everyone in politics.

Your scored -0.5 on the Moral Order axis and 0.5 on the Moral Rules axis.

Matches

The following items best match your score:

1. System: Socialism
2. Variation: Moderate Socialism
3. Ideologies: Social Democratism
4. US Parties: Democratic Party
5. Presidents: Jimmy Carter (84.38%), Gerald Ford (84.38%)
6. 2004 Election Candidates: John Kerry (84.38%), Ralph Nader (75.59%), George W. Bush (65.62%)
posted by adamt at 7:45 PM on February 21, 2005


Sit down, this is a shocker (for those who think I am only what I present in a few political threads)

The following items best match your score:

1. System: Liberalism
2. Variation: Economic Liberalism
3. Ideologies: Capital Democratism, Progressive NeoLiberalism
4. US Parties: Democratic Party
5. Presidents: Gerald Ford (90.89%)
6. 2004 Election Candidates: John Kerry (82.74%), George W. Bush (75.69%), Ralph Nader (64.03%)
posted by Mick at 7:47 PM on February 21, 2005


i'm wondering that too, jess-i got it. (i'm thinking maybe we'd play Robin Hood?)
posted by amberglow at 7:47 PM on February 21, 2005


Of the 40190 people who took the test:

0.6% had the same score as you.
6.9% were above you on the chart.
89.6% were below you on the chart.
86.3% were to your right on the chart.
9.6% were to your left on the chart.


I think I am more afraid of those who are to my left and above me-- those guys are the real commie pinko pagans!
posted by Secret Life of Gravy at 7:49 PM on February 21, 2005


-5.5 on Moral Order, 3 on Moral Rules!
Beat that, you bastards!

1. System: Socialism
2. Variation: Moral Socialism
3. Ideologies: Activism
4. US Parties: No match.
5. Presidents: Jimmy Carter (85.18%)
6. 2004 Election Candidates: Ralph Nader (90.89%), John Kerry (75.29%), George W. Bush (41.66%)
posted by papakwanz at 8:01 PM on February 21, 2005


some difference between the short test and long test:

short test: Your scored -2 on the Moral Order axis and 6 on the Moral Rules axis

1. System: Socialism
2. Variation: Economic Socialism
3. Ideologies: International Socialism
4. US Parties: No match.
5. Presidents: Jimmy Carter (72.05%)

long test: Your scored -5.5 on the Moral Order axis and 0 on the Moral Rules axis.

1. System: Socialism, Liberalism
2. Variation: Moral Socialism, Moral Liberalism
3. Ideologies: Activism, Progressivism
4. US Parties: Democratic Party, Green Party
5. Presidents: Jimmy Carter (93.37%)


heathen pinko commie it is :)
posted by squeak at 8:07 PM on February 21, 2005


I took this a while ago and laughed, because it stuck me in the exact middle, and recommended that I vote for Kerry (50%) or maybe Bush (50%). For parties, it thought maybe I could be a Republican or perhaps a Democrat.

Not that I was really look to a livejournals-on-the-internet quiz to clarify my positions for me, but still. Come on.
posted by kavasa at 8:07 PM on February 21, 2005


Your scored -2.5 on the Moral Order axis and 5 on the Moral Rules axis.
  1. System: Socialism
  2. Variation: Economic Socialism
  3. Ideologies: Social Democratism, International Socialism
  4. US Parties: No match.
  5. Presidents: Jimmy Carter (76.93%)
  6. 2004 Election Candidates: Ralph Nader (76.51%), John Kerry (68.99%), George W. Bush (44.76%)
Well, I never thought of myself as a social democrat before. There's a bunch of issues on which my position is considered pretty far to the right by leftist standards.

There's a long-considered project of mine where rather than assuming the dimensionality (and what the dimensions represent) of "politics", these things are empirically discovered (for a given population). I'd take a large pool of assertions that are widely considered political (and not try to correct the assertions for bias but instead hope that a large enough pool of biased assertions will cancel each other out); measure a large number of people's agreement or disagreement with each; and then use sophisticated mathematical techniques to find a dimensionality where people most "cluster". Then try and derive from the assertions what those dimensions represent. Then you could make a meaningful test.
posted by Ethereal Bligh at 8:10 PM on February 21, 2005


Feel free to send me your answers and I'll correct them for you.
posted by dreish at 8:14 PM on February 21, 2005


Why would anybody prefer to "reduce the cases of crime," presumably reducing crime You missed a "u" in there.

Oh and...

1. System: Socialism
2. Variation: Moderate Socialism
3. Ideologies: Social Democratism
4. US Parties: Democratic Party
5. Presidents: Jimmy Carter (95.06%)
6. 2004 Election Candidates: Ralph Nader (88.95%), John Kerry (86.56%), George W. Bush (54.02%)

Who knows, I think this test is a little bogus. Several of those questions were all or nothing (like education and health care, and financial security. I think You should be able to pay for higher quality of all, but there should be a minimum baseline)
posted by delmoi at 8:16 PM on February 21, 2005


Just to add diversity:

0 on the Moral Order axis, -6.5 on the Moral Rules axis.

1. System: Conservatism, Liberalism
2. Variation: Economic Conservatism, Economic Liberalism
3. Ideologies: Conservative NeoLiberalism, Progressive NeoLiberalism
4. US Parties: Republican Party
5. Presidents: Ronald Reagan (90.89%)
6. 2004 Election Candidates: George W. Bush (76.93%), John Kerry (76.10%), Ralph Nader (57.55%)
posted by amber_dale at 8:18 PM on February 21, 2005


Matches

The following items best match your score:

System: Socialism
Variation: Moderate Socialism
Ideologies: Social Democratism
US Parties: Democratic Party
Presidents: Jimmy Carter (93.75%)
2004 Election Candidates: John Kerry (86.74%), Ralph Nader (86.74%), George W. Bush (55.81%)
Statistics

Of the 40552 people who took the test:

1.2% had the same score as you.
22.3% were above you on the chart.
70.6% were below you on the chart.
72.7% were to your right on the chart.
19.7% were to your left on the chart.


Woo-hoo! ; )
posted by SisterHavana at 8:26 PM on February 21, 2005


Proof that we're not all pinko-commies here on MeFi:

Your scored 1 on the Moral Order axis and -6.5 on the Moral Rules axis.

Matches

The following items best match your score:
System: Conservatism
Variation: Economic Conservatism
Ideologies: Conservative NeoLiberalism
US Parties: Republican Party
Presidents: Ronald Reagan (95.06%)
2004 Election Candidates: George W. Bush (81.12%), John Kerry (73.39%), Ralph Nader (54.66%)
posted by gyc at 8:31 PM on February 21, 2005


Only cloeburner has beaten my -6 on moral order so far. Of course, this is balanced out by my -.5 on moral rules, making me a Democrat. Eww.
posted by PhatLobley at 8:33 PM on February 21, 2005


1. System: Liberalism
2. Variation: Moderate Liberalism
3. Ideologies: Capital Democratism
4. US Parties: Democratic Party
5. Presidents: Gerald Ford (93.37%)
6. 2004 Election Candidates: John Kerry (92.03%), Ralph Nader (73.39%), George W. Bush (69.94%)

So much love for Gerry Ford on this board, for those who aren't commie pinkos. ;)

The test seems more than a little sloppy and simplistic, and not as informative, in general, as the also simplistic Political Compass quiz. Still, it was a fun five minutes...
posted by Sticherbeast at 8:49 PM on February 21, 2005


Interesting. By their scores (or their questions, perhaps) I'm not nearly as liberal as I thought, although I am pretty close to dead center on the overall axis, which may be the bigger point:

Your scored 1 on the Moral Order axis and 0.5 on the Moral Rules axis.

Matches

The following items best match your score:

System: Authoritarianism
Variation: Moderate Authoritarianism
Ideologies: Social Republicanism
US Parties: Democratic Party
Presidents: Gerald Ford (83.91%)
2004 Election Candidates: John Kerry (79.15%), George W. Bush (69.94%), Ralph Nader (68.99%)
posted by yhbc at 9:13 PM on February 21, 2005


Oooh. This has proved to be somewhat educational.

"Your scored -2 on the Moral Order axis and 1.5 on the Moral Rules axis.

System: Socialism
Variation: Moderate Socialism
Ideologies: Social Democratism"

I like these results under this context:
A Political System is a blend of two Moral Trends.

There are four major political systems:

1. Socialism blends NonConformance with Interdependence.
2. Authoritarianism blends Conformance with Interdependence.
3. Conservatism blends Conformance with Independence.
4. Liberalism blends NonConformance with Independence.
Further:
NonConformance is the notion of a flat moral order. People who like NonConformance have few steps on their moral order ladder. For instance, they may believe that:

1. All ethnies are equal
2. Men equal women
3. All cultures are equally valuable
4. All countries are equally important
5. All religions are equivalent
6. All lifestyles are acceptable...

A flat moral order fosters diversity of thought and behavior across society. It also encourages each individual to accomplish their personal desires by not conforming to any pre-defined standard.

People on this side of the Matrix may support:

1. Separation of church and state
2. Gay and minority rights
3. Drug legalization
4. Freedom of expression

Interdependence is the notion of rewarding collective initiatives over individual initiatives. People who like Interdependence tend to reward actions that:

1. Increase the strengths of social ties (economic, emotional...).
2. Empathise with less fortunate members of society.
3. Help members achieve happiness as a condition of empathy towards others.

Rewarding collective initiatives first tends to create a society with a high level of economic interdependence among the various members of society (for instance through redistribution of wealth).

People on this side of the Matrix may support:

1. Strong government
2. Social programs
3. Gun control
4. Crime prevention
Thanks, good to know!
posted by Lush at 9:30 PM on February 21, 2005


Your scored 0.5 on the Moral Order axis and 4.5 on the Moral Rules axis.

1. System: Authoritarianism
2. Variation: Economic Authoritarianism
3. Ideologies: Social Republicanism
4. US Parties: No match.
5. Presidents: Jimmy Carter (71.88%)
6. 2004 Election Candidates: John Kerry (67.37%), Ralph Nader (67.37%), George W. Bush (53.54%)


Gee, I seem to be unique among those on MetaFilter that bother to post their results. Heh.

0.1% had the same score as you.

I had nobody next to me, either. Mostly below, and to the right or left. I gotta be meeeeeeeee....now to go to their deeper links and find out what kind of me I'm supposed to be. ;)
posted by davejay at 10:10 PM on February 21, 2005


You scored -3 on the Moral Order axis and -0.5 on the Moral Rules axis.

System: Liberalism
Variation: Moderate Liberalism
Ideologies: Capital Democratism
US Parties: Democratic Party
Presidents: Jimmy Carter (95.06%)
2004 Election Candidates: John Kerry (93.37%), Ralph Nader (85.18%), George W. Bush (59.44%)


Yet another pinko commie here...
posted by OhPuhLeez at 10:14 PM on February 21, 2005


Another pinko, hurrah!

Your scored -2.5 on the Moral Order axis and 4 on the Moral Rules axis.

1. System: Socialism
2. Variation: Moderate Socialism, Economic Socialism
3. Ideologies: Social Democratism
4. US Parties: No match.
5. Presidents: Jimmy Carter (81.12%)
6. 2004 Election Candidates: Ralph Nader (79.63%), John Kerry (73.39%), George W. Bush (48.22%)


posted by dame at 10:15 PM on February 21, 2005


Dude, someone who gets liberalism & "capital democratism" is not part of the pinko club. You are not a pinko if you are not a socialist: that's what pinko means. Go hang out with jonmc and be all namby-pamby with yourself.
posted by dame at 10:17 PM on February 21, 2005


Eh, that's OK, dame. I never cared for clubs.
posted by jonmc at 11:11 PM on February 21, 2005


You scored -5.5 on the Moral Order axis and 4.5 on the Moral Rules axis.
1. System: Socialism
2. Variation: Extreme Socialism
3. Ideologies: Activism
4. US Parties: No match.
5. Presidents: Jimmy Carter (79.04%)
6. 2004 Election Candidates: Ralph Nader (84.38%), John Kerry (69.22%), George W. Bush (37.42%)

Of the 41587 people who took the test:
1. 0.3% had the same score as you.
2. 4.8% were above you on the chart.
3. 93% were below you on the chart.
4. 86.2% were to your right on the chart.
5. 9.6% were to your left on the chart.

posted by Melinika at 11:53 PM on February 21, 2005


Interesting test, thanks.

---

Your scored -5 on the Moral Order axis and 1.5 on the Moral Rules axis.

Matches

The following items best match your score:

System: Socialism
Variation: Moral Socialism
Ideologies: Social Democratism, Activism
US Parties: Green Party
Presidents: Jimmy Carter (92.03%)
2004 Election Candidates: Ralph Nader (95.06%), John Kerry (82.18%), George W. Bush (47.29%)
Statistics

Of the 41632 people who took the test:

0.8% had the same score as you.
22.6% were above you on the chart.
70.2% were below you on the chart.
86.2% were to your right on the chart.
9.6% were to your left on the chart.
posted by plep at 12:01 AM on February 22, 2005


how is Carter the most liberal president? he appointed Volcker as Fed chairmen, hardly something a socialist would do. JFK and LBJ are far more liberal.
posted by afu at 12:11 AM on February 22, 2005 [1 favorite]


The questions generally didn't make sense, but I answered as best I could:
(-3,-2)

1. System: Liberalism
2. Variation: Moderate Liberalism
3. Ideologies: Capital Democratism
4. US Parties: Democratic Party
5. Presidents: Bill Clinton (93.37%)
6. 2004 Election Candidates: John Kerry (100%), Ralph Nader (81.25%), George W. Bush (62.24%)


I'm in the jonmc Liberal Democrats.
posted by salmacis at 12:35 AM on February 22, 2005


I've been reading a lot of political theory lately, and you'd think seeing all this would help, but no. I was just talking to a ultra-libertarian friend of mine and had to admit that he might be right about everything anyway, despite all my socialist beliefs.
Politics is hard.
posted by blacklite at 1:07 AM on February 22, 2005


1 on the Moral Order axis and -6.5 on the Moral Rules axis.

1. System: Conservatism
2. Variation: Economic Conservatism
3. Ideologies: Conservative NeoLiberalism
4. US Parties: Republican Party
5. Presidents: Ronald Reagan (95.06%)
6. 2004 Election Candidates: George W. Bush (81.12%), John Kerry (73.39%), Ralph Nader (54.66%)

posted by enrevanche at 1:07 AM on February 22, 2005


"I was just talking to a ultra-libertarian friend of mine and had to admit that he might be right about everything anyway, despite all my socialist beliefs."

Rest assured, he's not. Rigorously look at the concept of "liberty". First, see if American libertarianism rigorously defines "liberty" and, if so, whether you find that definition persuasive. I think it doesn't, which makes the latter moot although I don't find their definition that compelling, either.
posted by Ethereal Bligh at 1:46 AM on February 22, 2005


Add me to the (proudly) to the red-list:

Socialism
moral socialism, extreme socialism
activism
Jimmy Carter (79.15%)
Nader (86.56%) Kerry (69.3%) Bush (35.46%)

I'm so glad I don't live in the US right now, I'd never fit in...
posted by MadOwl at 2:46 AM on February 22, 2005


I wonder if this could replace real voting? Just fill out the form and send it off.
posted by gsb at 4:29 AM on February 22, 2005


Your scored 3 on the Moral Order axis and -4 on the Moral Rules axis.

The following items best match your score:

1. System: Conservatism
2. Variation: Moderate Conservatism, Economic Conservatism
3. Ideologies: Capital Republicanism
4. US Parties: Republican Party
5. Presidents: George H. Bush (95.58%)
6. 2004 Election Candidates: George W. Bush (90.12%), John Kerry (72.05%), Ralph Nader (54.50%)
posted by MattD at 5:07 AM on February 22, 2005


sloppy and simplistic

Yeah, I can forgive the simplistic, but what the hell is this? (It was my question #15 - does everybody get the same questions in the same order?)16 damn questions, and they couldn't go through it once for typos? "Recourse" is not a verb, so either this is supposed to be "One should never have recourse to charity" or "One should never have to resort to charity" - two utterly opposite meanings. Remarkable that they spent so much time on the map-trappings and neglected the core concept - asking exactly the questions they meant to ask.
posted by soyjoy at 7:23 AM on February 22, 2005


Your scored -6 on the Moral Order axis and 3.5 on the Moral Rules axis.

The following items best match your score:
System: Socialism
Variation: Moral Socialism
Ideologies: Activism
US Parties: No match.
Presidents: Jimmy Carter (82.18%)
2004 Election Candidates: Ralph Nader (88.95%), John Kerry (72.31%), George W. Bush (38.56%)
posted by 40 Watt at 7:36 AM on February 22, 2005


soyjoy

Aah, it was deliberately vague, "a calculated ambiguity", like a Rorschach inkblot - you see in the question whatever you want to see in the question ...

(-2, -1.5), almost co-incident with John Kerry.
posted by kcds at 8:35 AM on February 22, 2005


Scored -2.5 on the Moral Order axis and 2 on the Moral Rules axis.

System: Socialism
Variation: Moderate Socialism
Ideologies: Social Democratism
US Parties: No match.
Presidents: Jimmy Carter (88.95%)
2004 Election Candidates: Ralph Nader (83.91%), John Kerry (82.18%), George W. Bush (54.66%)

10.8% were above you on the chart.
77% were below you on the chart.
47.8% were to your right on the chart.
28% were to your left on the chart.
posted by five fresh fish at 9:36 AM on February 22, 2005


-2.5 on the Moral Order axis and 2.5 on the Moral Rules axis.


1. System: Socialism
2. Variation: Moderate Socialism
3. Ideologies: Social Democratism
4. US Parties: No match.
5. Presidents: Jimmy Carter (87.12%)
6. 2004 Election Candidates: Ralph Nader (83.17%), John Kerry (79.99%), George W. Bush (53.12%)


Pretty much what I expected. I imagine most Canadians will fall into this sort of spectrum.
posted by WinnipegDragon at 10:00 AM on February 22, 2005


delmoi: You missed a "u" in there.

I made a typo, but that doesn't change my point.
posted by jennyb at 11:11 AM on February 22, 2005


Your Score
Your scored 3.5 on the Moral Order axis and 2 on the Moral Rules axis.

Matches
The following items best match your score:
1. System: Authoritarianism
2. Variation: Moderate Authoritarianism
3. Ideologies: Social Republicanism
4. US Parties: No match.
5. Presidents: George H. Bush (73.39%)
6. 2004 Election Candidates: George W. Bush (68.36%), John Kerry (66.27%), Ralph Nader (57.78%)

Statistics
Of the 44256 people who took the test:
0% had the same score as you.
posted by Witty at 11:26 AM on February 22, 2005


System: Liberalism
Variation: Moderate Liberalism
Ideologies: Capital Democratism
US Parties: Democratic Party

-OR-

System: Conservatism
Variation: Moderate Conservatism
Ideologies: Capital Republicanism
US Parties: Republican Party, Democratic Party

Depending on how I answered one question:

4. About countries:

C. The interests of our country come before our individual interests.

D. Our individual interests come before those of our country.

This is as vague as you can get because in principle one could answer C & D depending on how one defines "interests".

PS. You bunch of frigg'n pinkos.
posted by tkchrist at 11:38 AM on February 22, 2005


Zero on both scales - I'm a "perfect Centrist". You're all wrong in one way or another. For the curious, cccdadccddadcbbc
posted by obiwanwasabi at 3:10 PM on February 22, 2005


Useless. Far too many ambigous questions. (e.g. what Tkchrist cited.)
posted by IndigoJones at 6:28 PM on February 22, 2005


God may exist + Religion shouldn't exist.

One is based on fact (or at least our belief thereof), the other on our judgement. How to decide? And why could not one choose both?

As I said - useless.
posted by IndigoJones at 6:35 PM on February 22, 2005


-2, -6.5. I presume that Badnarik would have been my closest match among 2004 candidates, had they bothered to include him.

As long as we're complaining about questions:

God exists.
God may exist.
God does not exist.
Religion should not exist.


I'll stick with Carl Sagan on this one:
"Because the word 'God' means many things to many people, I frequently reply [to people who ask 'Do you believe in God?'] by asking what the questioner means by 'God.' To my surprise, this response is often considered puzzling or unexpected: 'Oh, you know, God. Everyone knows who God is.' Or 'Well, kind of a force that is stronger than we are and that exists everywhere in the universe.' There are a number of such forces. One of them is called gravity, but it is not often identified with God. And not everyone does know what is meant by 'God.'...Whether we believe in God depends very much on what we mean by God."
posted by DevilsAdvocate at 3:07 PM on February 23, 2005


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